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03/18/2009 08:13:35 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by Nuzzer:
Might have suffered from a bit of "seen it before, nothing new" - I voted higher than you got BTW. |
I actually liked the other two photos much better. From the third, it wasn't immediately obvious it was a blueberry. I liked it and gave it an 8, but I think the others would have scored a 9 with me. |
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03/18/2009 08:16:53 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by aKiwi:
I'm not usually one to gripe about scoring, but I was surprised at the statistics in my Hidden Gem photo.
15 x 1
10 x 2
19 x 3
22 x 4.
= 65 votes of 4 or below.
but also 15 x 10
overall average 6.2389
Holy cow batman! Why so many such low scores? Just doesn't make sense to me. I try to give scores of 4 or below to out-of-focus badly processed poorly composed photos that don't meet the challenge.
I guess it didn't meet the challenge.
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I loved your shot! Gave it a 9. I think that too many people aren't into more abstract-types of photos and don't appreciate colors and lines. |
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03/18/2009 08:17:16 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by zxaar:
Originally posted by bobonacus:
Certainly not the best shot in the world and it finished around about where I thought, but 1's & 2's, really?!? |
you said it, its certainly not the best shot. 2 10s really????. |
Er ok, whatever! |
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03/18/2009 08:19:28 AM · #54 |
| 114 votes of 4 or less. Guess I really do suck. |
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03/18/2009 08:21:35 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I actually liked the other two photos much better. From the third, it wasn't immediately obvious it was a blueberry. I liked it and gave it an 8, but I think the others would have scored a 9 with me. |
That's funny. Might be because my blueberry was fresh and quite large and the others were deep frozen, small ones? Thanks for the 8, anyway! |
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03/18/2009 08:25:34 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
114 votes of 4 or less. Guess I really do suck. |
Or maybe 114 voters suck! :P |
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03/18/2009 08:30:10 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by vawendy:
I actually liked the other two photos much better. From the third, it wasn't immediately obvious it was a blueberry. I liked it and gave it an 8, but I think the others would have scored a 9 with me. |
That's funny. Might be because my blueberry was fresh and quite large and the others were deep frozen, small ones? Thanks for the 8, anyway! |
I'm not sure---in the second one you could see the bottom funny part of the blueberry... and as to the first one, I think I liked the there was milk on the blueberry it made it more interesting even though there probably shouldn't be milk at that part.
Message edited by author 2009-03-18 08:31:03. |
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03/18/2009 08:31:22 AM · #58 |
Well I gave it a 7 and a nice comment.
Very nicely done time/motion stop photography.
Message edited by author 2009-03-18 08:32:33. |
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03/18/2009 08:33:22 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by aKiwi:
I'm not usually one to gripe about scoring, but I was surprised at the statistics in my Hidden Gem photo.
15 x 1
10 x 2
19 x 3
22 x 4.
= 65 votes of 4 or below.
but also 15 x 10
overall average 6.2389
Holy cow batman! Why so many such low scores? Just doesn't make sense to me. I try to give scores of 4 or below to out-of-focus badly processed poorly composed photos that don't meet the challenge.
I guess it didn't meet the challenge.
wELL i think you were robbed I really thought ths shot would do better than it did a top 10
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03/18/2009 08:41:29 AM · #60 |
Overall, I guess I could say that I am disappointing with the result... thought this would do better. I didnt expect to ribbon mind you, but I thought I would get above 6.
But then, considering that there were 1100+ entries, and only 10 scored above 7, it shows that a lot of voters lumped the majority of shots into their 'average' range of votes, which for some people is as low as three.
At the end of the day, I like my shot, just not the result :) |
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03/18/2009 08:46:45 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by aKiwi:
Why so many such low scores? Just doesn't make sense to me. I try to give scores of 4 or below to out-of-focus badly processed poorly composed photos that don't meet the challenge. |
I think that there would be quite a few voters who don't see it as a photograph at all. I'm one of them, although I didn't give you a 1. I know of course that it is technically a photograph in the sense that it is recorded with a camera, but it's not what I consider photography. You will take the position that mine is an ignorant, myopic point of view, and in a way you're right. I was just now asking myself how does it differ from a macro of an insect, or a flower (both genre that I don't care for at all, and yet I don't dismiss them as 'not photography')? I guess the answer is that the subject here is entirely created for the image. It's not a photograph of a thing, it's just a thing.
There is an argument that it is an abstract, and should be judged that way. But in spite of what some commenters said, it's not really an abstract in the true meaning of the term; it comprises sufficient real-world visual reference (in fact it comprises nothing else) that any reasonably thoughtful viewer will immediately realize what it is.
It does not appeal to me, but that's just my taste and part of the reason why I scored it low. The rest of the reason is to do with what I think a photograph is, or isn't. I won't be the only one who thinks that way, and I'd bet that's where all the 1 scores came from. |
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03/18/2009 08:51:45 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by aKiwi:
Holy cow batman! Why so many such low scores? Just doesn't make sense to me. I try to give scores of 4 or below to out-of-focus badly processed poorly composed photos that don't meet the challenge.
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If you think your image didn't do well, you should re-think. This was a challenge with 1112 competing images with basically no qualifying requirements other than digital with EXIF within DPC existence time frame. So basically a 1100 entry free study. Free studies are extremely hard to ribbon or even top-ten. You might also notice that while you got 15 ones you also got 15 10's. More than I got by far. Some people use the entire range of votes. They have no aversion, as you do, to handing out 1's. Combine this with a challenge where voting and commenting were solicited with a frenzy and you're going to draw out more of these people.
Many of these people will really tramp down on a subject they consider cliche. I'm afraid, as wonderfully as you executed it, yours falls into this catagory. Just look at the winning entry. A beautifully executed mountain landscape, but more importantly: something not seen everyday of the week on DPC. So pat yerself on the back. I'm sure doing the same to myself. I was just a little ahead of you, but I figured I'd be lucky to top the 500 mark. I'm very happy with my score. |
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03/18/2009 09:05:04 AM · #63 |
Originally posted by VitaminB:
Overall, I guess I could say that I am disappointing with the result... thought this would do better. I didnt expect to ribbon mind you, but I thought I would get above 6.
But then, considering that there were 1100+ entries, and only 10 scored above 7, it shows that a lot of voters lumped the majority of shots into their 'average' range of votes, which for some people is as low as three.
At the end of the day, I like my shot, just not the result :) |
It's obvious to me that i have no idea of what good photography is all about as my comment on your image is the only one that is not positive and i only gave you a 4. Everybody else has only praise so somewhere I am missing something. I was very honest though just as i am being now.
My own entry did only a little better then yours with place 617.
Message edited by author 2009-03-18 09:16:39. |
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03/18/2009 09:11:22 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by aKiwi:
Originally posted by kbhatia1967:
Originally posted by kbhatia1967:
What about this one? 64 Great comments, and score??
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No Comments?? |
I also left a comment |
I gave this one an 8
My comment was:
Really has that NG look. In fact looks like a younger version of that famous NG cover shot of that Afghan woman. I am sure that is what you had in mind. Same incredible intense eyes. 8
But if you look at my post just above this one you will realize that i probably have a bad insight into what constitutes a good photo.
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03/18/2009 09:18:06 AM · #65 |
116-5's
166-4's
102-3's
42-2's
13-1's
I knew that it wasn't the best photo I had but I thought it would do a little better. |
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03/18/2009 09:20:35 AM · #66 |
I'll throw mine in
I always wanted to enter this, but when I took it, it didn't fit any of the challenges and we weren't doing monthly Free Studies at the time. It's been published in 1x, not that that is any kind of indicater of how an image will do here. I fully expected a mid-6 or higher on this one.
I guess some just couldn't figure out what it is, but 54 4's seems a bit high even with the high number of votes. |
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03/18/2009 09:23:27 AM · #67 |
Originally posted by ubique:
I think that there would be quite a few voters who don't see it as a photograph at all. I'm one of them, although I didn't give you a 1. I know of course that it is technically a photograph in the sense that it is recorded with a camera, but it's not what I consider photography. |
Same here. I gave it a 7 for the color and composition, but it doesn't feel "photographic" to me. Overprocessed or filtered entries often the suffer the same fate I think. |
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03/18/2009 09:24:40 AM · #68 |
since this is a griping thread lol....
I took this shot some time back when I was at yosemite. I had a Yosemite Profesional photographer who studied with Ansel Adams (she knew him personally) and she assisted me with this photo back then.
I personally like this photo alot. Hence the reason why I submitted it. The score was dissapointing, but it looks like people expected something better.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, it only a 5.59
Why, that's beyond me
Message edited by author 2009-03-18 09:34:45. |
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03/18/2009 09:26:36 AM · #69 |
You've got better focus on the blueberry, but the splash is the star of the show on these shots. The other two are hovering and show a complete "crown" with a better-defined splash, so they'll score higher. |
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03/18/2009 09:28:47 AM · #70 |
i was accused of "cliche", "tired genre"
prtty girls & sunsets and floral arraignments and {fill in the blank} are all brand new topics i guess ...
sigh... |
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03/18/2009 09:33:32 AM · #71 |
Thanks for the comments explaining the low scores. I am happy with the explinations.
I tend to look at it as still life as it takes quite a while to design, set up and get the lighting right. As far as I know I invented the technique to get the lighting like that. (At least I haven't seen an image done like that before the first one that I did) and as I was proud of this, I chose to enter the photo for this challenge.
As for processing, it is basically straight from the camera.
Message edited by author 2009-03-18 09:34:54. |
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03/18/2009 09:46:25 AM · #72 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
I'll throw mine in
I always wanted to enter this, but when I took it, it didn't fit any of the challenges and we weren't doing monthly Free Studies at the time. It's been published in 1x, not that that is any kind of indicater of how an image will do here. I fully expected a mid-6 or higher on this one.
I guess some just couldn't figure out what it is, but 54 4's seems a bit high even with the high number of votes. |
I am a little bit surprised that it did not do better...I loved the 'stage' and story it told and showed. |
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03/18/2009 09:51:32 AM · #73 |
Originally posted by ralph:
i was accused of "cliche", "tired genre"
sigh... |
That's a shame, because I have never taken this kind of photo so it would be exciting for me, but not the viewer. I guess at the end of the day we take photos for ourselves; the scores don't really matter and the comments can be nice.
Right, where's that bucket of water? |
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03/18/2009 10:05:23 AM · #74 |
I spent a huge amount of time scoring every single photo and I just checked my vote against the mass and it says NA on every one of them!!!
Message edited by scalvert - Easy on the language, please.. |
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03/18/2009 10:08:19 AM · #75 |
Originally posted by MarcusArmani:
Well DPC Is a tough site! Shots that amaze elseware sometimes fall by the wasteside here. though I have not entered many challenges here, I do have friends that do...
Take my entry for example...
I am not unhappy with the outcome, but to think the same shot that came in 38th out of 1114 here,
beat out 200,000 photo entries to gain entry into Parade magazine... |
I found your entry to be entertaining and technically good. I gave it a 9. I thought it would place better than what it did but 38/1114 is not bad. |
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