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09/17/2008 08:41:58 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by kiwiness:
Excellent! I'm looking forward to picking it up at the Photokina next Wednesday.... although I'll probably be making a bee-line to the Hasselblad stand first up :) |
Napoleon Dynamite: Lucky!
Seriously, please report back. =) |
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09/17/2008 08:53:27 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by MilesW:
I'll be interested to see if Canon can keep that price differential going in the UK ($2700 in US, $4100 in UK).
Grey imports ahoy :-) |
Jfyi ... Online shop price for registered members at Camera Kitamura in Japan is 268.000 yen (body only). That translates into roughly 1420 to 1430 UK pounds.
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09/17/2008 09:15:41 AM · #28 |
Some of the finer details (both good and bad) that caught my eye reading the in-depth preview:
- Optional Auto ISO in all modes
- In-camera flash configuration (currently only 580 EX II) - (assumedly only an attached flash?)
- Same pixel size as 1DSMkIII, though improved technology
- 4 levels of high-ISO noise reduction
- Separate long exposure noise reduction
Movie mode:
- 1920 x 1080 (16:9) up to 12 mins (Quicktime 1080p H.264; 38.6 Mbits/sec), 30 fps
- 640 x 480 (4:3) up to 24 mins (Quicktime 480p H.264; 17.3 Mbits/sec), 30 fps
- audio-out over AV (although not HDMI)
- Still images can be grabbed at any point during movie recording by pressing the shutter button, though doing so creates a one second gap in the video for each still taken.
- Delivers 1080i video via the mini-HDMI socket
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09/17/2008 09:18:57 AM · #29 |
I know this thread is about the new 5D, I just wanted to throw in a random rant:
What the heck makes canon think it's time to jack up the prices on all new L lenses to $1600?!?!?!!? |
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09/17/2008 09:36:39 AM · #30 |
I don't see what all the drooling is about. To me the video(stupid gimmick) is a useless feature. I like Mp upgrade. I wish the FPS were more. It needed to have and I was hoping for more AF points. Glad to see the lower than expected price. Over-all after waiting 3 years for an upgrade, I'm not that impressed with what they came up with.
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09/17/2008 09:38:23 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by kevip6:
Originally posted by MilesW:
I'll be interested to see if Canon can keep that price differential going in the UK ($2700 in US, $4100 in UK).
Grey imports ahoy :-) |
I was thinking exactly the same thing, I could fly to New York pick one up, fly home, and save myself about £800!! |
Kev, seriously considering it.. man what an awesome camera.. Cant wait to see the high ISO samples..
For sale - Canon 5D mk1 - any offers? |
Hey Mark, I'm definitely considering it. I've been very unimpressed with the 40D and so have been waiting for this one to replace it and become my main camera with my current 5D becoming the backup.
May have to plan a weekend break to New York for Christmas!! |
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09/17/2008 09:46:27 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
I don't see what all the drooling is about. To me the video(stupid gimmick) is a useless feature. I like Mp upgrade. I wish the FPS were more. It needed to have and I was hoping for more AF points. Glad to see the lower than expected price. Over-all after waiting 3 years for an upgrade, I'm not that impressed with what they came up with. |
nice too see there is always 1 devil's advocate ;)
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09/17/2008 09:46:42 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
I don't see what all the drooling is about. To me the video(stupid gimmick) is a useless feature. I like Mp upgrade. I wish the FPS were more. It needed to have and I was hoping for more AF points. Glad to see the lower than expected price. Over-all after waiting 3 years for an upgrade, I'm not that impressed with what they came up with. |
I could live w/o the movie option as well, but everything else looks very nice. Think it again goes back to who they market it at. The way I use the 5D, extra AF points and machine-gun fast FPS just aren't things I wish I had. If I did I'd buy a 1 series.
Message edited by author 2008-09-17 09:47:04. |
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09/17/2008 09:56:54 AM · #34 |
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09/17/2008 10:23:30 AM · #35 |
Aaaaaauuuuuugh. . . I've been waiting for that camera. . .and now I want it so bad!!! I am coveting to the point of physical pain.
*** off to email ad to hubby to begin the begging process ***
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09/17/2008 10:32:32 AM · #36 |
I find it amazing that some of those were taken over a month ago and not leaked.
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09/17/2008 10:34:49 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by NstiG8tr:
I don't see what all the drooling is about. |
For me, I've wanted higher resolution for my large family portraits but haven't been willing to shell out $8500 for a 1Ds Mark III. Canon just saved me nearly $6,000. I'm drooling over that!
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09/17/2008 10:38:07 AM · #38 |
Very interesting discussions going on at the DPreview forums. Here's the recap:
One camp's argument is that it is an upgrade of the 5D in every way (more MP, more ISO, better AF, better sensor, HDMI and video), for a price that is cheaper than the 5D was.
The other camp says that it's not enough of a response to the D700 / D3. Particularly it's AF system is lacking and 3.9 fps is too slow.
The first responds that this is not a 1D and not really a sports camera. It's best for portrait and landscape work. (Interestingly, those were the two samples on Canon's site).
To which the other responds that Canon has a big gap between the 5D series and the 1D series, and the D3 and D700 both land in this gap.
And on and on it goes... |
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09/17/2008 10:44:10 AM · #39 |
Okay, the ISO 100 images look nice and creamy smooth. Gotta love that. The ISO 6400 image looks decent... I'd like to see more.
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09/17/2008 10:48:18 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by dwterry:
Anyway, I'll probably have one on order as soon as they're available. I've been wanting to upgrade my 5D for a long time, but just haven't wanted to jump to the 1Ds Mark III (or rather, to the $8500 price tag) to do it. |
Those who bought a 1DsIII will be sick now, won't they?
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09/17/2008 10:51:04 AM · #41 |
Originally posted by Mr_Pants:
Those who bought a 1DsIII will be sick now, won't they? |
There are still "build quality" and other higher end features that separate the line (and *still* continue to tempt me). So I do hope this puts price pressure on the 1Ds line...
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09/17/2008 10:51:11 AM · #42 |
Now that made things interesting in my choices :-) I would prefer more cross sensors and better weather sealing but a good feature set. I am also not sure what the fps is when in RAW and the buffer, so will have to check that first (my biggest hate on the 20D is that RAW buffer or lack of it). The movie, I can take or leave but it would be handy to have sometimes - although same specs without for $500 less would probably get me rather then one with a movie mode.
I hope the DR is better and that ISO 50 expanded is nice as long as it's cleaner then 100.
I REALLY wish they would put a small flash on it (not popup necessarily as could be near the focus assist) that could control other off camera flashes (like Nikons commander mode) - don't care if it's so weak it cannot light anything itself as it just needs enough to pulse out commands for the other flashes.
I agree for some it's not a competitor to the Nikon D700 while been in the same price point, so IMO Canon have not done enough to stop their bleeding there... it will certainly slow it down as swapping lens systems is very expensive.
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09/17/2008 10:55:18 AM · #43 |
I can't believe the amount of teeth-gnashing over on DPReview. It's insane. Folks complaining about no upgrade in AF points, even though the 5DMkI's AF performance has been very good (though it is not a sports cam it actually does pretty well in tracking). For the market it is targeted at, the 5DII has a great feature set, and for more than than, we'll really have to wait for more and better sample images, particularly at high ISO.
I for one am really impressed by the features/price combination, and I think it looks like a solid follow-on to the legendary 5D. |
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09/17/2008 10:56:22 AM · #44 |
I'm always interested in a good compact camera too.
On the other announcement of the G10, I can't believe they put in a 15mp sensor. Way too small a sensor for that! I wonder why they didn't put in the CMOS sensor that they put into the PowerShot SX1 IS, which the US may not get.
The 28mm lens will be welcome though.
-Chad |
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09/17/2008 11:00:32 AM · #45 |
| Well I'm impressed. 21.1 MP for under $3000? Damn good deal if you ask me. I'd like there to be more AF points too and at least 5FPS, but neither of those are THAT important to how I shoot. I'm going to try to see if we can upgrade at work! |
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09/17/2008 11:01:03 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by smurfguy:
... And on and on it goes... |
Same in Sony world too (insert Alpha 900 in place of D3/D700). :-)
At Dyxum.com --> Canon 5DII ... |
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09/17/2008 11:39:06 AM · #47 |
I couldn't see details of the weathersealing other than it's "enhanced". Anybody help me out?
I'm pretty excited about it. 21MP is big for me as well as the expanded ISO for night shooting. Since I'm not a sports guy the 3.9fsp and fewer AF zones doesn't hurt me. I'd be interested in the video and how functional it is. Does the video capture audio? |
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09/17/2008 11:48:33 AM · #48 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I couldn't see details of the weathersealing other than it's "enhanced". Anybody help me out?
I'm pretty excited about it. 21MP is big for me as well as the expanded ISO for night shooting. Since I'm not a sports guy the 3.9fsp and fewer AF zones doesn't hurt me. I'd be interested in the video and how functional it is. Does the video capture audio? |
There's supposed to be a mic socket. I know my 1D has a mic built-in as well, so probably have the choice of using either.
Looks to be a camera I'll be picking up early next year once the AF is proven to work. |
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09/17/2008 11:57:37 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I couldn't see details of the weathersealing other than it's "enhanced". Anybody help me out?
I'm pretty excited about it. 21MP is big for me as well as the expanded ISO for night shooting. Since I'm not a sports guy the 3.9fsp and fewer AF zones doesn't hurt me. I'd be interested in the video and how functional it is. Does the video capture audio? |
There is some debate about the specifications on the weather sealing. DPReview is reporting that it's rated for 10mm rainfall in 3 minutes, but that seems excessive. I'm thinking that it means "3 minutes exposure to a rainfall of 10mm/hr" but that's a guess. 10mm per hour is a moderate-to-heavy rain. Sorry doc, not "creek resistant." ;-)
ETA:
I too am really excited by some of the features of the 5DII. Even though I told myself that I would wait two cycles to upgrade, I *will* consider the 5DII next Spring, given that the street price at that time may be even more attractive. I don't expect the kind of drop we saw with the original 5D (from $3299 USD to about $2700 USD within 6 months) but I do think it may fall 10% or so. The things that are attractive to me are:
- The available resolution
- The high-ISO capability (I'll wait to see more and better samples to judge, but things are looking good here...
- The live view implementation (yes, including the capture of 1080p video which I would occasionally use)
- The vignetting correction
- The LCD improvement
- The additional two user-configurable positions on the mode wheel
The things I do not care about
- The lack of additional AF points
- The inclusion of sensor cleaning
- Whether the viewfinder coverage is 95%, 98% (which is what it is), or 100%
- Whether there is a dedicated MLU button (there's not)
Things I kind of wished for and did not get
- In-body control of off-camera Canon flash units
- AF Assist (though this is a niggle, the AF performance of the 5D in low light is very good)
- On-board GPS
This is going to be a really killer landscape camera. I think that Canon has done a very good job at addressing the needs of their target market, while not over-stuffing with features that are not required to be competitive. I predict that, barring any major issues with functions (e.g. the 1DMkIII AF debacle) that the 5DII will be a very successful follow-on to what has become a legendary camera.
Message edited by author 2008-09-17 12:16:42. |
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09/17/2008 12:03:12 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I couldn't see details of the weathersealing other than it's "enhanced". Anybody help me out?
I'm pretty excited about it. 21MP is big for me as well as the expanded ISO for night shooting. Since I'm not a sports guy the 3.9fsp and fewer AF zones doesn't hurt me. I'd be interested in the video and how functional it is. Does the video capture audio? |
There is some debate about the specifications on the weather sealing. DPReview is reporting that it's rated for 10mm rainfall in 3 minutes, but that seems excessive. I'm thinking that it means "3 minutes exposure to a rainfall of 10mm/hr" but that's a guess. 10mm per hour is a moderate-to-heavy rain. Sorry doc, not "creek resistant." ;-) |
So "10mm an hour in 3 minutes" doesn't translate to "half a second totally underwater" while I flail around? |
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