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 09/30/2008 03:59:22 AM · #1
Originally posted by dwterry:
Originally posted by Gordon:
A few friends who've recently bought 1DsIII's aren't so happy with the 5dII, because it is in many ways already a better camera.


That's what I think is funny about the 5dII debate. Some people think it doesn't go far enough ... others think it has gone too far. Clearly Canon has struck a nerve. I figure, as long as the camera doesn't falter (some unknown defect), it's destined to take over the 5D's spot as a favorite among enthusiasts. For one thing, it offers everything the original did (and then some), for another ... it manages to cost less than the original. That's quite a feat.


exactly.
It is 'hopefully' going to be a gem of a camera, and makes me glad i haven't invested in the Mark III yet. Counting the days down until November!
 09/29/2008 06:42:37 PM · #2
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09/29/2008 06:35:51 PM · #3
Originally posted by dwterry:
Originally posted by Gordon:
A few friends who've recently bought 1DsIII's aren't so happy with the 5dII, because it is in many ways already a better camera.


That's what I think is funny about the 5dII debate. Some people think it doesn't go far enough ... others think it has gone too far. Clearly Canon has struck a nerve. I figure, as long as the camera doesn't falter (some unknown defect), it's destined to take over the 5D's spot as a favorite among enthusiasts. For one thing, it offers everything the original did (and then some), for another ... it manages to cost less than the original. That's quite a feat.


What it probably comes down to is get ready for 1DsIV in March.
 09/29/2008 06:25:27 PM · #4
Originally posted by Gordon:
A few friends who've recently bought 1DsIII's aren't so happy with the 5dII, because it is in many ways already a better camera.


That's what I think is funny about the 5dII debate. Some people think it doesn't go far enough ... others think it has gone too far. Clearly Canon has struck a nerve. I figure, as long as the camera doesn't falter (some unknown defect), it's destined to take over the 5D's spot as a favorite among enthusiasts. For one thing, it offers everything the original did (and then some), for another ... it manages to cost less than the original. That's quite a feat.

09/29/2008 06:20:52 PM · #5
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09/29/2008 06:10:42 PM · #6
I was considering switching systems to the D700 as well, but a couple things won me over:

Once decent high ISO samples came available, the noise performance is astonishing - only equaled by the top-of-the-line cameras.

While huge megapixel count isn't strictly necessary, it does allow for down-sampling images - which effectively improves noise (and maybe sharpness) vs. smaller pixel count competitors. Plus they offer it in-camera via sRAW.

While it may turn others off, I view the video feature as very interesting. My typical video use case is casual recording of my family's events. The quality is infinitely better than my current camcorder, and that'll be one less device to mess with.

For me - high FPS, pro-sports grade AF, and full weather sealing are not really on my "must have" list.
 09/29/2008 05:51:04 PM · #7
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09/29/2008 05:22:55 PM · #8
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09/29/2008 05:04:42 PM · #9
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09/29/2008 04:31:27 PM · #10
Originally posted by smurfguy:
PS: Darkwing duck, David? =)


dirt_diver made me do it. He said DWTerry kept making him think of Dark Wing. I've been wondering how long it would take for someone to notice! :)

09/29/2008 04:25:56 PM · #11
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09/29/2008 03:34:27 PM · #12
Originally posted by Caravela:
Why couldn't canon have stuck to an increase of only 3-4 extra megapixels for the new 5D?

They've given us options: full-res and 2 sRAW sizes - what more do you want?

Originally posted by Caravela:
I mean, its not like it's a pro grade camera...

Woah, there. I'm pretty certain that people will be making income using this camera. I know pleanty of pros who use the 5D and who will use the 5DII when it comes out. I believe that makes it a pro-grade camera.

Originally posted by Caravela:
Do we have to upgrade our computers at the same time as upgrading our cameras as well - how long is it going to take to load those huge files?

There are plenty of full-res samples out now - you can go try it out now.

Originally posted by Caravela:
And why oh why, do they continue to insist on providing a max of only 3 auto-bracketed exposures!!! Surely, they realise the benefit of having the capability of auto-bracketing 7-9 exposures (nikon provide this!), particularly with regards to HDR imaging and its ever growing popularity!

Growing popularity, sure, but I don't imagine that the majority of their users will even use this function. Besides, you can always manually do as many exposures as you want.

Originally posted by Caravela:
As much as I'd like to have the outstanding IQ that the new camera will I'm sure provide, there comes a time when the feature set of a camera outweighs what little improvements over IQ another camera is able to provide.

Perhaps. I'd say the AF is the most disappointing feature (or lack thereof). But there is obviously a market of users who demand the highest IQ and high-ISO performance and are willing to sacrifice sports capability (huge fps and AF) for it. I am among that market.

Originally posted by Caravela:
I'm afraid the D700 is more likely to be residing in my camera bag at the end of next year than the new 5D!

Enjoy your D700, I'm sure it'll be fantastic - given your comments, probably better than the 5DII for your style of shooting.

PS: Darkwing duck, David? =)
 09/29/2008 03:06:29 PM · #13
Prices on CF cards have dropped dramatically. Prices of hard drives are constantly dropping. Adobe has announced CS4 has huge performance gains for large files ... and now Canon comes out and soaks it all up with a 21mp camera WITH video!!!

It's a conspiracy, I tell ya!!!

09/29/2008 01:41:46 PM · #14
Originally posted by Caravela:
...Do we have to upgrade our computers at the same time as upgrading our cameras as well - how long is it going to take to load those huge files?...


I'm wondering this also, and especially in consideration of handling the video!

09/29/2008 07:38:34 AM · #15
Why couldn't canon have stuck to an increase of only 3-4 extra megapixels for the new 5D? I mean, its not like it's a pro grade camera and I doubt the majority of folk will even see the benefit of those extra megapixels! Do we have to upgrade our computers at the same time as upgrading our cameras as well - how long is it going to take to load those huge files?

And why oh why, do they continue to insist on providing a max of only 3 auto-bracketed exposures!!! Surely, they realise the benefit of having the capability of auto-bracketing 7-9 exposures (nikon provide this!), particularly with regards to HDR imaging and its ever growing popularity!

As much as I'd like to have the outstanding IQ that the new camera will I'm sure provide, there comes a time when the feature set of a camera outweighs what little improvements over IQ another camera is able to provide. I love my current 5D, but in terms of the features I'm looking to upgrade, I'm afraid the D700 is more likely to be residing in my camera bag at the end of next year than the new 5D! It will be with much trepidation when I move over to the dark side, but it's something I feel canon has forced me to do!
 09/28/2008 06:28:04 PM · #16
Ordered Mine with a Battery Grip + Battery
Its still a Bucket Full Of Dosh, but I thought if I was going to Buy one later. I would have added the Battery Grip to the order, so this was my way into talking myself into buying one !
Hope its worth the wait.

Cheers.
Joe
 09/26/2008 04:41:00 PM · #17
Best UK prices I've seen so far are from Dabs.com

Canon EOS 5D Mk II EF-S 24-105mm Lens Kit (None in stock) £2,429.99

None in stock is no big surprise - but I wonder if the proce will alter ? seems about £600 below recommended price.
 09/25/2008 09:57:37 PM · #18
And here's another upgrade for the 40d owners feeling left out
 09/25/2008 09:52:58 PM · #19
Maybe u can make DSLR videos like this :)
 09/25/2008 03:54:44 PM · #20
Originally posted by Simms:


Should be international if you buy from the US. And dnt quote me on it, but David Leung says Canon will pretty much honor any warranty as long as you have proof of purchase (unless you get it from one of those Hong Kong outfits.)


That's good to know, now I just have to find a way of reserving it and finding a cheap flight :0)


09/25/2008 03:35:57 PM · #21
Originally posted by dmadden:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If your lens is on the camera, where is the dust coming from?


I heard the constant zooming of a lens without weathersealing, can suck dust into the camera body.


This would presume that dust can pass through the rear element of the lens, though, I imagine.
 09/25/2008 03:18:24 PM · #22
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If your lens is on the camera, where is the dust coming from?


I heard the constant zooming of a lens without weathersealing, can suck dust into the camera body.
 09/25/2008 02:41:18 PM · #23
Originally posted by kevip6:
Originally posted by Simms:


Stick a couple of lenses on the front and they wouldn`t know a thing.. and yes, I reckon you could get a return trip to New York and still save money.


That's what I would do, even take a few shots with them and leave it on the card in case they're very thorough!

My main problem would be the Canon support and warranty?


Should be international if you buy from the US. And dnt quote me on it, but David Leung says Canon will pretty much honor any warranty as long as you have proof of purchase (unless you get it from one of those Hong Kong outfits.)
 09/25/2008 02:39:30 PM · #24
Originally posted by Simms:


Stick a couple of lenses on the front and they wouldn`t know a thing.. and yes, I reckon you could get a return trip to New York and still save money.


That's what I would do, even take a few shots with them and leave it on the card in case they're very thorough!

My main problem would be the Canon support and warranty?
 09/25/2008 02:38:03 PM · #25
Originally posted by kevip6:
Jedusi, it's a valid point.

I really want to get one of these as soon as possible (already sold the 40D) but I feel a little cheated paying £2300 when it's soooo much cheaper in the States.

I've even looked into the cost of flying out to NY for a weekend just to get this camera.

I'm wondering if there is a downside though, as it's a new camera if there are any teething problems would I be able to get them sorted by Canon in the UK if it was purchased abroad?

I think bringing back a few would be problematic with customs? But you could probably get away with picking two up and bringing them back in a camera bag as hand luggage (boxes in a suitcase in the hold)

Anyone see a problem with this?

Edit: It may well be a problem getting one reserved as well??


Stick a couple of lenses on the front and they wouldn`t know a thing.. and yes, I reckon you could get a return trip to New York and still save money. ALternatively wait until Focus at Birmingham next Feb/March and see if you can pick up any good deals there - I got my 1d mk3, 24-70 f2.8, 580ex mk2 and 2x Teleconv for a tad under £3k earlier this year.

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