DPChallenge: A Digital Photography Contest You are not logged in. (log in or register) 
 

DPChallenge Forums >> The DPL >> Remember last week...
Pages:  
Showing posts 51 - 75 of 87, (reverse)
AuthorThread
 07/21/2018 05:43:15 PM · #51
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


Query: Off the top of my head, I see no reason why these ribbons should NOT be treated the same as the existing ribbons and displayed in the same place on the profile. If, hypothetically speaking, we have a member or members who have contributed thousands of comments and tens of thousands of votes over an extended period of time, what's wrong with recognizing this valuable contribution to DPC at the same level as making the photos themselves? And, somewhat peripherally, I do agree with Jenn that most active commenters seem to be voters as well...


Thanks Robert. There really isn't any major reason other than it would be harder to tell how many ribbons you earned for commenting/voting and how many you earned for photos. I think even competing against yourself and trying to get both your columns even would be fun. But if the coding is more complicated then it really isn't a big deal.

07/21/2018 05:44:15 PM · #52
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I used to comment more, but since hardly anyone comments nowadays it exposes the score you gave the image. I wonder if that's why others' aren't commenting more? For example, if only one person comments and the average vote from commenters is 5 then you know what that one person that left a comment gave that image.


I have thought of the same thing. I wonder if this stat should be taken off. Might encourage more comments as well.
 07/21/2018 07:41:14 PM · #53
Originally posted by sjhuls:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I used to comment more, but since hardly anyone comments nowadays it exposes the score you gave the image. I wonder if that's why others' aren't commenting more? For example, if only one person comments and the average vote from commenters is 5 then you know what that one person that left a comment gave that image.

I have thought of the same thing. I wonder if this stat should be taken off. Might encourage more comments as well.

Agreed
 07/21/2018 08:00:28 PM · #54
Bravo! A great idea to reward those participants who vote, comment, and generally work to keep the lights on. Also very true to the intent of this site.
 07/21/2018 08:47:03 PM · #55
Originally posted by sjhuls:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I used to comment more, but since hardly anyone comments nowadays it exposes the score you gave the image. I wonder if that's why others' aren't commenting more? For example, if only one person comments and the average vote from commenters is 5 then you know what that one person that left a comment gave that image.


I have thought of the same thing. I wonder if this stat should be taken off. Might encourage more comments as well.


This is how I handle this...I vote first then I make my comments. This way the actions aren̢۪t done together and you can̢۪t match up votes with comments...but if you comment first then vote it pops the checked box off for liking the comment or finding it helpful then y̢۪all can figure out the vote...

But even if they figure out your vote...so what???
 07/21/2018 09:19:35 PM · #56
Hi Janine! ;-)
 07/21/2018 09:22:06 PM · #57
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by sjhuls:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I used to comment more, but since hardly anyone comments nowadays it exposes the score you gave the image. I wonder if that's why others' aren't commenting more? For example, if only one person comments and the average vote from commenters is 5 then you know what that one person that left a comment gave that image.

I have thought of the same thing. I wonder if this stat should be taken off. Might encourage more comments as well.

Agreed


Agree +2

I have been following this forum, though I don't join in very often, I thought I would give my two cents worth. I really like the idea of commending those who vote and comment, but my only nit would be that I really don't like forced comments. I would rather have a few genuine comments from those who have something to say about my image than having forced comments for points, especially during the voting phase. Afterward it is nice to have a complimentary congratulations, etc.

Thanks to all of you for trying to keep this wonderful place positive and going.
 07/21/2018 09:24:03 PM · #58
Agree! Forced comments suck.
 07/21/2018 09:28:38 PM · #59
Originally posted by grahamgator:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by sjhuls:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
I used to comment more, but since hardly anyone comments nowadays it exposes the score you gave the image. I wonder if that's why others' aren't commenting more? For example, if only one person comments and the average vote from commenters is 5 then you know what that one person that left a comment gave that image.

I have thought of the same thing. I wonder if this stat should be taken off. Might encourage more comments as well.

Agreed


Agree +2

I have been following this forum, though I don't join in very often, I thought I would give my two cents worth. I really like the idea of commending those who vote and comment, but my only nit would be that I really don't like forced comments. I would rather have a few genuine comments from those who have something to say about my image than having forced comments for points, especially during the voting phase. Afterward it is nice to have a complimentary congratulations, etc.

Thanks to all of you for trying to keep this wonderful place positive and going.


I hear what you are saying, I'm sure that will be the case for some people. But I think the majority will put some thought into their comments. After all, I think that those who win will have their comments looked at, and if it were me I would want those comments to be more than...wow! or great job! Johanna commented on more than half of the photos in the cityscape challenge, and I think her purpose was to comment on as many as she had time for, and while some comments were more meaningful than others, I'm sure every comment she gave was appreciated by the receiver.
 07/21/2018 10:04:20 PM · #60
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Off the top of my head, I see no reason why these ribbons should NOT be treated the same as the existing ribbons and displayed in the same place on the profile.


I agree! IF we're willing to change this from a photography site to a commenting and voting site.

Maybe... DPVCChallenge.com??
 07/21/2018 11:40:56 PM · #61
We already have a couple of special//custom ribbons for particular challenges which are displayed in the same "field" as regular ribbons and HM stars. As long as the ribbons are distinctive from the challenge ribbons and denote the nature of the award it shouldn't make much difference where they show up on the page.
 07/22/2018 12:04:42 AM · #62
Just for the record to amplify one point being made here, I try to always comment on my votes of 6 or above and never comment on those where I vote 5 or below although I would like to in many cases.
The reason is as already discussed: the fear of my vote being made public by the "avg vote by commenters".
On the contrary, I strongly believe all participants must vote especially on their participating peers. The risk of bias may be a factor if one has participated, but it is ultimately immaterial in the context of getting out the vote.
Or, how about a rule: mandatory personal recusal from voting if also a contributor. Sounds good? No votes? Obviously this ridiculous idea belies spirit of this site: to encourage participation and interchange of ideas.
This is not national jurisprudence after all.

Message edited by author 2018-07-22 00:05:47.
 07/22/2018 12:24:29 AM · #63
Originally posted by tvsometime:
... I ... never comment on those where I vote 5 or below although I would like to in many cases.
The reason is as already discussed: the fear of my vote being made public by the "avg vote by commenters".

I'm pretty sure most people appreciate comments made after the voting closes nearly as much as those made during the voting, and your vote (if any) would then only be revealed if you chose to mention it.

I've always been a little surprised about the amount of pre-submission discussion about what will constitute a "good" entry, compared to the dearth of discussion about photos once the results are known.
 07/22/2018 12:37:27 AM · #64
Originally posted by tvsometime:
Just for the record to amplify one point being made here, I try to always comment on my votes of 6 or above and never comment on those where I vote 5 or below although I would like to in many cases.
The reason is as already discussed: the fear of my vote being made public by the "avg vote by commenters".
On the contrary, I strongly believe all participants must vote especially on their participating peers. The risk of bias may be a factor if one has participated, but it is ultimately immaterial in the context of getting out the vote.
Or, how about a rule: mandatory personal recusal from voting if also a contributor. Sounds good? No votes? Obviously this ridiculous idea belies spirit of this site: to encourage participation and interchange of ideas.
This is not national jurisprudence after all.


I really do think taking down the average score of commenters is necessary, I don't know why it was put on there in the first place.
 07/22/2018 08:44:28 AM · #65
I'm afraid I'm one of those that used to vote and comment regularly but have virtually stopped in the last couple of years. I have been busy (probably like most people) but have also lost incentive due to my pathetic internet speed. It can take me up to or beyond 4 hours to vote on a challenge with less than 50 entries. It can also take that long for me to send a raw image in for validation. I spent 20 mins on voting for the Serpentine challenge and only got to vote on 3 images. Unfortunately, I'm giving up as I don't have the time to reach even 20%. I used to use an iPad and mobile data (gone now) which is why I was more active with voting and commenting in the past.

All I'm saying is that I'm sure I'm not the only person who wants to participate more but can be restricted due to poor technology. The good news is my location should be getting internet access upgrade by the end of this year so I'll be looking forward to voting and commenting more often. I've attached a screen print of my download speed. Indecently, it took three attempts as the first two timed out trying to conduct the test (I know, it's a first world problem but I just felt like having a whinge)

07/22/2018 12:04:09 PM · #66
Originally posted by Ja-9:


But even if they figure out your vote...so what???


+487 million
 07/22/2018 04:10:07 PM · #67
I believe that the awards would be fun and might increase people's votes and comments.

I also believe that the awards MUST be different from the ones we have now.

There are so many people who work for YEARS to earn a ribbon on an image.

If the awards are the same, it de-values earning one on a photograph, when one can get the same award by clicking on a number and pasting in "good job" over and over again.

07/22/2018 04:45:28 PM · #68
Originally posted by Abra:
I'm afraid I'm one of those that used to vote and comment regularly but have virtually stopped in the last couple of years. I have been busy (probably like most people) but have also lost incentive due to my pathetic internet speed. It can take me up to or beyond 4 hours to vote on a challenge with less than 50 entries. It can also take that long for me to send a raw image in for validation. I spent 20 mins on voting for the Serpentine challenge and only got to vote on 3 images. Unfortunately, I'm giving up as I don't have the time to reach even 20%. I used to use an iPad and mobile data (gone now) which is why I was more active with voting and commenting in the past.

All I'm saying is that I'm sure I'm not the only person who wants to participate more but can be restricted due to poor technology. The good news is my location should be getting internet access upgrade by the end of this year so I'll be looking forward to voting and commenting more often. I've attached a screen print of my download speed. Indecently, it took three attempts as the first two timed out trying to conduct the test (I know, it's a first world problem but I just felt like having a whinge)



I'm sure you live in a beautiful place.. peaceful, without all the hubbub. I have been enlightened in the past by your comments and entries and so hope to see more in the future, however that may happen. It doesn't seem fair, in a way, that those who want to participate can't for reasons such as this.
 08/03/2018 10:55:56 PM · #69
I'm entered in all of 'em, so I voted on all of 'em.



My votes received:
Colorful Objects - 79
Free Study - 30
Vanishing Point - 48
Panorama with People - 19

We should be able to get over 100 votes received in the first three listed. Only 30 people entered the last one, so fewer votes there I figure. And you can actually stop voting in that one - I have a decent score and would like to keep it, thanks. :-)
 08/04/2018 01:04:36 AM · #70
Details: We're talking objects here, NOT scenes :-)
Stats: You have rated 133 of 138 images (96%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.0602.

Details: Free Study for July, 2018.
Stats: You have rated 120 of 120 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 43 images (36%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.3667.

Details: Vanishing point is a technique where parallel lines appear to merge at a distant point. Find a creative way to photograph them.
Stats: You have rated 126 of 130 images (97%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.0159.

08/04/2018 02:33:06 AM · #71
Voter turnout is still pretty disappointing.

Panorama with People
You have rated 31 of 31 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 19 images (61%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.3677
I really enjoyed most all of the images in that challenge.

Colorful Objects
You have rated 132 of 138 images (96%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8455

Will get to FS & VP later tonight or tomorrow.
 08/04/2018 03:26:11 PM · #72
I agree - Panorama with People turned out to be a pretty cool challenge! Folks did a great job. I enjoyed voting that one as well.
 08/04/2018 03:42:25 PM · #73
Been trying to do my part:

Challenges Needing Your Votes
Member Challenge
Colorful Objects (DPL4 WK4) · Standard Editing
We're talking objects here, NOT scenes :-)
1 day and 8 hours left · you rated 135 of 138 entries (98%) · Finish voting

Member Challenge
Free Study 2018-07 · Standard Editing
Free Study for July, 2018.
3 days and 8 hours left · you rated 119 of 119 entries (100%) · Thank you for voting!

Open Challenge
Vanishing Point V (DPL4 WK4) · Standard Editing
Vanishing point is a technique where parallel lines .. [more]
3 days and 8 hours left · you rated 125 of 130 entries (96%) · Finish voting

Member Challenge
Panorama with People · Standard Editing
Instead of photographing a panoramic landscape, use .. [more]
5 days and 8 hours left · you rated 31 of 31 entries (100%
 08/05/2018 06:31:08 AM · #74
I like the idea of removing the average vote of commenters.

If I get a score under five then I REALLY want to understand why. But I don't need to know who gave me that score; anyone telling me it was over-processed, too soft, DNMC, blown out teaches me something whether they gave me a score of 1 or 10. I don't want the commenter to be put off at the risk that I might work out it was them that gave the 1 or the 2!

Should I care? Possibly not. But I do because of an email I received a few years ago that put me off commenting (for a while) on anything but high scores. The individual disagreed (very very strongly) with my comment that accompanied it. His response was really horrible and negative. I won't say anymore except that there's enough negative in this world without exposing myself to the risk of more if someone like that then associates me with a lower than expected score! (That individual is no longer active but I still take a deep breath before commenting on shots of his genre just in case .......)

So. Unless there's a good reason for keeping it in, I vote that removing the commenters average would be a winner.

Message edited by author 2018-08-05 06:44:34.
 08/05/2018 12:31:11 PM · #75

Vanishing Point V (DPL4 WK4) · Standard Editing
Vanishing point is a technique where parallel lines .. [more]
2 days and 11 hours left · 129 entries

Votes:

55

FAB
Pages:  
Current Server Time: 07/31/2025 12:59:31 PM

Please log in or register to post to the forums.


Home - Challenges - Community - League - Photos - Cameras - Lenses - Learn - Help - Terms of Use - Privacy - Top ^
DPChallenge, and website content and design, Copyright © 2001-2025 Challenging Technologies, LLC.
All digital photo copyrights belong to the photographers and may not be used without permission.
Current Server Time: 07/31/2025 12:59:31 PM EDT.