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07/18/2018 03:17:45 PM · #26

Vote if you want, don't if you can't or don't have the time. I don't think that's being selfish. I'd rather have someone voting that WANTS to vote and enjoys the subject matter, etc., than someone who's forced to vote and is grumpy about it. Mandatory voting would be the final nail in the coffin for this place.

ciaeagle

Nikon D500

07/18/2018 03:30:05 PM · #27

Originally posted by glad2badad:

+1
I�m just excited to see the influx of pictures to look at and learn from.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

07/18/2018 03:32:15 PM · #28

Rather than a punishment system. I think there needs to be a reward system, I don't know how complicated the coding would be but I know its possible because I've seen it on other sites. The more you vote the higher up in the visibility your images get, so the more votes your images will probably get. I'm sure people often start voting on a challenge, get distracted and then forget to come back and finish. If your photo was first in line in the challenge then your photo would get more votes. The sort would be off of recent votes not from all time averages, that way it would encourage people to keep voting to keep their visibility up.

Another idea I've shared before is to have a top voters and comments section on the front page. It would be similar to the ribbon winners, but if you were the top voter + commenter for the week your top photo or one of your photos randomly selected from your portfolio, or even just your profile pic with link to your portfolio would be displayed and you would get a virtual ribbon or H.M. just like the photo winners do, Maybe just in another section of your profile page. This would highlight those who really put forth effort to comment and vote every week and most likely encourage other people to join in as well.

Lydia

Canon EOS-6D

07/18/2018 03:46:22 PM · #29

I think that we'd have more votes if everyone who DIDN'T enter voted.

Also, they'd be higher.

If you need proof, just look at the finished challenges and make note of the average scores from Participants vs. Non-Participants.

But, to each his/her own.

Carry on...

07/18/2018 04:55:32 PM · #30

Originally posted by Lydia:

This is why I think my second idea would be especially helpful because it would give a reason for people who haven't entered challenges to vote and comment.

Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

07/21/2018 10:25:54 AM · #31

I know we�re on break but please don�t forget to vote on the two DPL contests out there... the first rolls over tomorrow!!

And yes, if you�re participating you should be voting. I want your vote as much as you want mine. I�d be more than happy to take some from non participants too if they want.

Ja-9

Nikon D750

07/21/2018 11:45:48 AM · #32

Captains....start cking with your teammates if they�ve voted or not...

Just a suggestion...

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

07/21/2018 01:29:07 PM · #33

And my idea works like this. Every week sunday night at rollover(technically monday morning) through sunday again at rollover, the computer would tabulate all the votes and comments made (during the challenges only) And the 5 winners would have their profile picture displayed, as well as a virtual ribbon that would go in a new spot somewhere on their profile page (no example of that). They would have their pictures displayed and a link to their profile for the whole week. New winners would be picked and displayed for the next week.

BTW: for the example picture, I used the cityscapes challenge and went through the comments made during the challenge for the first 50 photos (didn't have time to go through all of them) So these are the actual winners, if we were going off of just this challenge and not the whole week. OF course this is just for commenting, I don't know if they voted or not but I suspect they all did.

Lydia

Canon EOS-6D

07/21/2018 01:37:38 PM · #34

I like that, Jenn! I think the awards need to be different than the ones for entering photos (maybe the same colors, but different shapes), but I like the ideas very much.

07/21/2018 01:40:53 PM · #35

Originally posted by sjhuls:

I really wish we could see something like this implemented. I know it's just dreaming...because someone would have to write the code for it, but I really do think it would encourage voting and commenting. I know I was inspired just looking through the comments of one challenge to get my winners for this example.

Here is what it would look like:

And my idea works like this. Every week sunday night at rollover(technically monday morning) through sunday again at rollover, the computer would tabulate all the votes and comments made (during the challenges only) And the 5 winners would have their profile picture displayed, as well as a virtual ribbon that would go in a new spot somewhere on their profile page (no example of that). They would have their pictures displayed and a link to their profile for the whole week. New winners would be picked and displayed for the next week.

BTW: for the example picture, I used the cityscapes challenge and went through the comments made during the challenge for the first 50 photos (didn't have time to go through all of them) So these are the actual winners, if we were going off of just this challenge and not the whole week. OF course this is just for commenting, I don't know if they voted or not but I suspect they all did.

Being positive creates motivation so all suggestions are good ones. Thank you. But there are at least a handful of people, myself included, who already vote pretty much 100% on every challenge. So how would you determine who won? Or are the comments and votes added together?

07/21/2018 01:44:12 PM · #36

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Comments and votes would be added together to determine the winners. You are right we would have a lot of ties if we just did votes. But comments would be the thing that would break most ties.

07/21/2018 01:45:15 PM · #37

Originally posted by Lydia:

I like that, Jenn! I think the awards need to be different than the ones for entering photos (maybe the same colors, but different shapes), but I like the ideas very much.

Good idea but I don't necessarily think they need to be different. Since they will be going in a different section on their profile page. I wouldn't want them to be mixed in with the ribbons for their photos.

07/21/2018 01:51:01 PM · #38

Great idea.

07/21/2018 01:51:17 PM · #39

Nice pic.

07/21/2018 01:51:38 PM · #40

Love this shot.

07/21/2018 01:51:49 PM · #41

Awesome!

Sony DT 18-70mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical ED Zoom Lens for Sony Alpha

07/21/2018 01:52:23 PM · #42

All valid comments, yes? Get my point?

nam

Sony DSLR-A580

07/21/2018 02:24:50 PM · #43

Originally posted by glad2badad:

All valid comments, yes? Get my point?

I get your point, but I think commenting like this would be called out soon enough and the situation would pretty much regulate itself.

I have a cyber friend who joined here several years ago. She did this . . . not for any award (there's wasn't one), just because she's a genuinely nice person who thinks everyone should be encouraged. She did not know or understand the mindset of DPC. She was called out publicly in the forum almost immediately . . . well, not named but the challenges she'd commented were named as were her own profile stats and it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who was being referred to.

07/21/2018 02:31:27 PM · #44

My other problem with this is that someone could comment a lot and never vote at all and win another prize.

07/21/2018 02:38:56 PM · #45

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

My other problem with this is that someone could comment a lot and never vote at all and win another prize.

I don't think they would get the prize if all they did was comment. You can rack up a lot more voting points than commenting points. So in order to win. you would need to vote

07/21/2018 02:40:56 PM · #46

Originally posted by nam:

Originally posted by glad2badad:
All valid comments, yes? Get my point?

I get your point, but I think commenting like this would be called out soon enough and the situation would pretty much regulate itself.

I have a cyber friend who joined here several years ago. She did this . . . not for any award (there's wasn't one), just because she's a genuinely nice person who thinks everyone should be encouraged. She did not know or understand the mindset of DPC. She was called out publicly in the forum almost immediately . . . well, not named but the challenges she'd commented were named as were her own profile stats and it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out who was being referred to.

I agree I do think it would be somewhat self-regulated. We might have site Council invalidate a winner if it is discovered that all the person did was copy and paste the same comment over and over again. However at this point any comment is a good comment. Since we hardly get any anymore. Eventually if it starts more commenting, we can decide if comments need to be more than one word to count.

07/21/2018 02:52:56 PM · #47

Originally posted by sjhuls:

Originally posted by PennyStreet:
My other problem with this is that someone could comment a lot and never vote at all and win another prize.
I don't think they would get the prize if all they did was comment. You can rack up a lot more voting points than commenting points. So in order to win. you would need to vote

But probably just 20%. Most people don't comment on 20%, at least not on a regular basis.

Edit to add.. Just to be clear, I believe if we are going to implement something new it should be to increase voting AND commenting. To me, both need to be addressed. I'm sure you understand the reasons I think voting is so important so I won't go there. But we wouldn't want to give prizes and recognition to people who don't increase on both ends, IMO.

Message edited by author 2018-07-21 15:04:21.

Samsung Galaxy S21, S21+, S21 Ultra

07/21/2018 04:45:31 PM · #48

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Originally posted by sjhuls:

Originally posted by PennyStreet:
My other problem with this is that someone could comment a lot and never vote at all and win another prize.
I don't think they would get the prize if all they did was comment. You can rack up a lot more voting points than commenting points. So in order to win. you would need to vote

But probably just 20%. Most people don't comment on 20%, at least not on a regular basis.

Edit to add.. Just to be clear, I believe if we are going to implement something new it should be to increase voting AND commenting. To me, both need to be addressed. I'm sure you understand the reasons I think voting is so important so I won't go there. But we wouldn't want to give prizes and recognition to people who don't increase on both ends, IMO.

This is for both and more heavily weighted for the commenting side, since most people who comment would have already voted. I guess my point is, this is really a prize for commenting. Of course to win you would need to vote also, but in order to win you would need to have done both or you wouldn't have a chance.

Bear_Music

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

07/21/2018 05:16:34 PM · #49

Originally posted by sjhuls:

At first blush, this seems like an excellent idea. As pointed out in subsequent posts, there would be some details to iron out. But it's a workable idea if the coding isn't a major issue, which I'm not sure about. I will bring this to Langdon's attention and let y'all know what I find out.

Query: Off the top of my head, I see no reason why these ribbons should NOT be treated the same as the existing ribbons and displayed in the same place on the profile. If, hypothetically speaking, we have a member or members who have contributed thousands of comments and tens of thousands of votes over an extended period of time, what's wrong with recognizing this valuable contribution to DPC at the same level as making the photos themselves? And, somewhat peripherally, I do agree with Jenn that most active commenters seem to be voters as well...