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03/18/2008 08:24:54 AM · #101 |
| Loyal Nikon and Loyal Liberal Democrat in Michigan |
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03/18/2008 08:33:22 AM · #102 |
Non US here and the Democrats are a right wing party from my POV (while the Republicans are extreme Right)
I'm liberal and shoot Nikon |
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03/18/2008 09:16:52 AM · #103 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Which doesn't appear to have an equivalent party in the US. |
That fits me. Unfortunately we don't really have a party in the US that aligns with that and the Dems/Reps are too caught up in rhetoric and towing the party line to come together in the middle. I was hoping Michael Bloomberg would run for pres to give me an option to vote for. My top voting issue is the environment. I thought I was going to be satisfied with any of the three candidates left, but McCain has been slipping on the environment lately. His failure to vote on the recent energy bill that would have stripped unneeded and wasteful tax incentives from big oil and given them to alternative energy, doomed it to failure by 1 vote. //www.sierraclub.org/pressroom/releases/pr2008-02-07.asp
I started with a Pentax SLR and have since switched to Canon. Much like politics, I'm not brand loyal and want to go my own way. I'll switch again if I have a reason to.
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03/18/2008 09:21:49 AM · #104 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
Has anyone added up the scores in this thread yet? Or is anyone keeping track? Who's winning? |
I'm too lazy to count them up, but right now I vote  ryand gets the blue ribbon...
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03/18/2008 09:39:53 AM · #105 |
Originally posted by MelonMusketeer:
Who's winning? |
Please, not another contest!
Originally posted by Siggav:
Non US here and the Democrats are a right wing party from my POV (while the Republicans are extreme Right) |
Maybe I should move to Iceland (or are those Edinburgh politics?). |
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03/18/2008 09:55:11 AM · #106 |
Originally posted by jhonan:
Originally posted by ryand:
One of the main reasons that we went into Iraq was to free them from Saddam |
No, it wasn't.
Originally posted by ryand:
One of our goals of this war was to save lives. |
No, it wasn't. |
Well, the removal of Saddam wasn't a bad thing.
Article 1
Article 2
On topic...
Sony - Republican (surprise!). :-) Although I do wonder how much good we could do with the billions of dollars being spent on Iraq if it was invested at home? Infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc...), jobs, healthcare, etc... |
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03/18/2008 09:57:45 AM · #107 |
Originally posted by citymars:
Originally posted by Siggav:
Non US here and the Democrats are a right wing party from my POV (while the Republicans are extreme Right) |
Maybe I should move to Iceland (or are those Edinburgh politics?). |
I've always had a similar sentiment. All the political bickering in the US always struck me as to be over minutiae because both 'sides' are on the right wing of global politics, just arguing about who's more right wing or not. That's why the 'important' issues are things like gay marriage and abortion.
Because there isn't so much substance to differentiate them in terms of economic, social or foreign policies. |
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03/18/2008 09:59:22 AM · #108 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Although I do wonder how much good we could do with the billions of dollars being spent on Iraq if it was invested at home? Infrastructure (roads, bridges, etc...), jobs, healthcare, etc... |
It's heading towards being 'wonder how much good we could do with the trillions of dollars being spent on Iraq' if you take the long view. |
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03/18/2008 10:11:20 AM · #109 |
| Well, here in england i'm a conservative which in this neck of the woods tends to lie to the right of the political spectrum. However, in the usa, the democrats are more akin to our conservative party as we tend to adopt a more liberal stance and have recently tended to shift towards the centre. I thinks that would probably make me a democrat if I was american!!! Those republicans are far too extreme for my liking!!! he he |
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03/18/2008 10:15:49 AM · #110 |
Originally posted by Magno:
Well, here in england i'm a conservative which in this neck of the woods tends to lie to the right of the political spectrum. However, in the usa, the democrats are more akin to our conservative party as we tend to adopt a more liberal stance and have recently tended to shift towards the centre. I thinks that would probably make me a democrat if I was american!!! Those republicans are far too extreme for my liking!!! he he |
Though you do have to be careful about lumping 'America' together as one homogeneous unit. A Texan democrat makes a Californian republican look like a liberal. |
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03/18/2008 10:41:27 AM · #111 |
Originally posted by Magno:
Well, here in england i'm a conservative which in this neck of the woods tends to lie to the right of the political spectrum. However, in the usa, the democrats are more akin to our conservative party as we tend to adopt a more liberal stance and have recently tended to shift towards the centre. |
From the left, correct? Overall, isn't it fair to say that the UK is one of the most socially right-leaning states in Europe? (Aside from Poland.) Forgive me if wrong, it's just my impression. |
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03/18/2008 10:45:01 AM · #112 |
| I shoot Sony, though I am saving up for a Nikon. Registered Republican, live in Colorado, don't know who I am voting for this year. |
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03/18/2008 10:45:28 AM · #113 |
--- message removed ---
No further post for me in this thread
Message edited by author 2008-03-18 10:55:08. |
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03/18/2008 11:10:58 AM · #114 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Originally posted by Magno:
Well, here in england i'm a conservative which in this neck of the woods tends to lie to the right of the political spectrum. However, in the usa, the democrats are more akin to our conservative party as we tend to adopt a more liberal stance and have recently tended to shift towards the centre. |
From the left, correct? Overall, isn't it fair to say that the UK is one of the most socially right-leaning states in Europe? (Aside from Poland.) Forgive me if wrong, it's just my impression. |
Quite possibly...in fact yeah, more than likely. A lot of european nations do tend to have a socialist undertone! But like for like between the uk and us our right is far more to the centre than it is to the right!!! |
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03/18/2008 12:13:44 PM · #115 |
Canon Pentax Olympus Nikon Mamiya Rollie, others not included or whatever is available - I am disqualified -
My favorite option offered in this thread is the pinky show
Another site for your viewing pleasure -
Ramsey Clark's - VoteToImpeach
Message edited by author 2008-03-18 12:43:13. |
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03/18/2008 12:17:36 PM · #116 |
Amusing thread. Correlations may not exist or can be misleading. Watch out for stereotypes!
Person: Me -- Wife
Party: Democrat -- Republican
Once voted for: Nixon -- Nader
Camera: Nikon -- Nikon & Canon
Car: Ford Pickup -- Toyota Hybrid
Computer: Mac & Windows -- Only Mac
I don't know, maybe both of our party affiliations are mistakes!
Message edited by author 2008-03-18 12:18:32. |
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03/18/2008 12:38:24 PM · #117 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I seem to remember seeing one a while back and thinking it was interesting how the more and less "educated" states were divided into the parties. |
My only problem with this thread is this one damn statement. Everyone is entitled to political opinion, but this is just a load of crap.
What the hell makes you think that the average person on the street in LA or NY is more educated than those in the middle. What the hell? Have you met any people from LA that strike you as particularly educated? Or at least more so than any other?
Hmm.. lets review the Princeton map referenced nearest me in KC; Oh, gee, when you get to the absolute poorest sections of town with a record of THE WORST public school system in the country, IT GOES COMPLETELY DEMOCRAT..... MY GOD !! Say it ain't so Joe! Hey, go to any county where the rich, supposedly educated people live, and it suddenly turns a more reddish hue. But I'm just a country bumbkin from Kansas, maybe ah dunt read dat dere map tew gud. Ah gets muh paw tuh look at it later. Seems to be more about entitlements than smarts.
The idea of liberalism being about smart vs. stupid is completely erroneous; more than that it's insulting and covered in hubris. Liberalism vs. Conservatism is about values and ideals, nothing more. Saying it's education or intelligence is practicing bigotry, period.
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03/18/2008 12:59:57 PM · #118 |
Originally posted by wavelength:
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
I seem to remember seeing one a while back and thinking it was interesting how the more and less "educated" states were divided into the parties. |
My only problem with this thread is this one damn statement. Everyone is entitled to political opinion, but this is just a load of crap.
What the hell makes you think that the average person on the street in LA or NY is more educated than those in the middle. What the hell? Have you met any people from LA that strike you as particularly educated? Or at least more so than any other?
Hmm.. lets review the Princeton map referenced nearest me in KC; Oh, gee, when you get to the absolute poorest sections of town with a record of THE WORST public school system in the country, IT GOES COMPLETELY DEMOCRAT..... MY GOD !! Say it ain't so Joe! Hey, go to any county where the rich, supposedly educated people live, and it suddenly turns a more reddish hue. But I'm just a country bumbkin from Kansas, maybe ah dunt read dat dere map tew gud. Ah gets muh paw tuh look at it later. Seems to be more about entitlements than smarts.
The idea of liberalism being about smart vs. stupid is completely erroneous; more than that it's insulting and covered in hubris. Liberalism vs. Conservatism is about values and ideals, nothing more. Saying it's education or intelligence is practicing bigotry, period. |
He never pointed out what side would have been the smarter one. Anyways, if you look at the breakdown by county, we live in a PURPLE country!
Message edited by author 2008-03-18 13:00:34.
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03/18/2008 01:16:00 PM · #119 |
Originally posted by AndyMac24:
Anyways, if you look at the breakdown by county, we live in a PURPLE country! |
You might. I live in a red state with a blue dot and a Hispanic fringe.
Election by county (old, but still pretty much true I expect) |
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03/18/2008 01:17:57 PM · #120 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by AndyMac24:
Anyways, if you look at the breakdown by county, we live in a PURPLE country! |
You might. I live in a red state with a blue dot and a Hispanic fringe.
Election by county (old, but still pretty much true I expect) |
That link does not show, but yup you'd be mostly red, Texas is Texas (I mean that with the utmost respect, I married a Texan)
Edit to add:The map I found 2004 by county.
Message edited by author 2008-03-18 13:20:59.
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03/18/2008 01:31:31 PM · #121 |
| Canon, liberal Dem in TEXAS. Use Windows XP (under protest). |
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03/18/2008 01:37:06 PM · #122 |
| I'm a Nikon shooter and have been for over two decades, but I'm sure as hell not a republican. I'm also not a democrat, as 95% of the issues I'm quite a bit "left" of either. Guess you could say I'm a working class, thinking, reading, Christian, environmentalist, anti-corporate, vegetarian. |
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03/18/2008 01:41:18 PM · #123 |
<----- speaks for itself.
Dem all the way...however cant say who i might vote for if it comes down between McCain and Clinton
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03/18/2008 01:41:56 PM · #124 |
Originally posted by jbpk11:
<----- speaks for itself.
Dem all the way...however cant say who i might vote for if it comes down between McCain and Clinton |
It won't
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03/18/2008 01:44:43 PM · #125 |
Originally posted by AndyMac24:
Originally posted by jbpk11:
<----- speaks for itself.
Dem all the way...however cant say who i might vote for if it comes down between McCain and Clinton |
It won't |
God i hope not...Love Obama and his ideas...dispite recent "news" with pastor...loved his speech today by the way
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