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01/23/2009 02:03:04 PM · #76

Originally posted by Phil:

How is the horsie dealing with this horrible atrocity?

The colt died.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/23/2009 02:12:11 PM · #77

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

You've been answered. As I said, I can't know whose photos are whose during the challenge. You have a PM detailing what to do for the future. I just want everyone to enjoy DPC as much as they can. Cheers.

Your suggestion was to just simply share my image title with you prior to the challenge. Then, you would place it on your "do not comment" list. Are you doing this with others? .... I mean are others sending you titles and images prior to the completion of a challenge? (This is not something which I would participate in, for obvious reasons of rule-breaking collusion.)

I have sent you a response indicating what you should do, and I hope you will comply promptly.

Nobody else has reacted negatively. I don't vote on Free Studies. Giving me the title of your image is the only way that I can avoid leaving a comment on your image. Letting someone know what your image is in a Free Study is not a breaking of a rule unless you are doing it to allow them to vote on it in an unfair way, so this is not a rule breaking. It is my honest attempt at helping you avoid one of these comments in the future. If you still do not wish to do this, then you run the risk of getting another 'hurtful' comment, and there will be nothing I can do about that. I can continue to remove them after the challenge, but the damage will already have been done (in your eyes). Understand?

I'm trying to help you here. For the sake of things, please take any other concerns to PM and I'll answer them there. I will not answer anything else publicly. Thank you.

Message edited by author 2009-01-23 14:12:39.

neophyte

Nikon D810

01/23/2009 02:12:31 PM · #78

I enjoy reading your comments very much. For the comment in question, I thought it was a great contrast to the expected responses of how adorable the colt is. I found this comment very Similar in theme to the poem "Design" by Robert Frost where we've decided what good or evil by our impressions of outward appearance and the true surprise (or shock depending on the level of one's reaction) is in the fact that it is the opposite of our preconceived notions.

Once again Genius is never appreciated, much less understood. At least not right away.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

01/23/2009 02:28:57 PM · #79

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

....Understand?

Yes, I completely understand your motives and methods. btw, I won't be sending you any of my images or titles prior to the completion of any challenge.

neophyte

Nikon D810

01/23/2009 02:30:28 PM · #80

Originally posted by hahn23:

I have sent you a response indicating what you should do, and I hope you will comply promptly.

This is one of the scariest sentences I've read on this site.

However a quick look at the comments that Richard marks as helpful(and more importantly the ones he doesn't)makes his response less surprising.

Why do some of truly talented carry so much baggage?

The forum rules keep me from commenting further.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

01/23/2009 02:37:12 PM · #81

If it matters at all to you, hahn, all K10 does is leave a comment. He does not vote at all.

Knowing which entry is yours would not cause any malfeasance to occur, in any form or fashion. By letting him know which one is yours, he can

a. save his time
b. help you avoid irritation
c. save your time in having to read it
d. give the comment to someone else.

His comments are "within the rules," both to the letter and in the spirit, and will not be removed by SC unless they violate the terms of use (which, to date they haven't), so if you truly do not want his creative exercise on your picture, the onus is on you to prevent that, especially since no rules are broken by doing so.

If he were voting on the images, then, yes, I would agree with you and share your reluctance in sharing your entry.

01/23/2009 02:40:07 PM · #82

Originally posted by neophyte:

Originally posted by hahn23:
I have sent you a response indicating what you should do, and I hope you will comply promptly.

This is one of the scariest sentences I've read on this site.

However a quick look at the comments that Richard marks as helpful(and more importantly the ones he doesn't)makes his response less surprising.

Why do some of truly talented carry so much baggage?

The forum rules keep me from commenting further.

I mark the helpful comments as "helpful". 2140/2571 = 83% helpful. It's true that I don't mark the "not helpful" messages at all. Is that somehow against the rules?

01/23/2009 02:46:41 PM · #83

Originally posted by karmat:

Bad policy if you are suggesting sharing images and titles with another prior to the completion of a challenge. What's stopping this person from sharing the information with a group of friends who do vote?

I have asked the person to remove his comments from my images, as they are not constructive criticism, nor suggestions for improvement, nor congratulatory, nor helpful in any way. He has agreed to remove the comments, as I found them to be hurtful. He didn't have remove the comments, but I'm glad he did.

There will be no sharing of my image titles or images with him or his friends in the future, as I think that would not be a good idea.

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 II

01/23/2009 02:58:28 PM · #84

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by karmat:
If it matters at all to you, hahn, all K10 does is leave a comment. He does not vote at all.

Knowing which entry is yours would not cause any malfeasance to occur, in any form or fashion. By letting him know which one is yours, he can

a. save his time
b. help you avoid irritation
c. save your time in having to read it
d. give the comment to someone else.

His comments are "within the rules," both to the letter and in the spirit, and will not be removed by SC unless they violate the terms of use (which, to date they haven't), so if you truly do not want his creative exercise on your picture, the onus is on you to prevent that, especially since no rules are broken by doing so.

If he were voting on the images, then, yes, I would agree with you and share your reluctance in sharing your entry.

Bad policy if you are suggesting sharing images and titles with another prior to the completion of a challenge. What's stopping this person from sharing the information with a group of friends who do vote?

I have asked the person to remove his comments from my images, as they are not constructive criticism, nor suggestions for improvement, nor congratulatory, nor helpful in any way. He has agreed to remove the comments, as I found them to be hurtful. He didn't have remove the comments, but I'm glad he did.

There will be no sharing of my image titles or images with him or his friends in the future, as I think that would not be a good idea.

I know I said I wouldn't respond anymore, but this has to be the most insulting thing that's ever been suggested of me. I have done nothing but try to help you and resolve this issue as best I can, only to have you suggest that I am in some way lacking the integrity to keep your images private, especially when I'm only asking you to share it in order to make sure you don't have to deal with comments you find hurtful to begin with?

I'm sorry, but you're showing a complete lack of disregard for not only myself, but for the efforts I'm making to help you. If you don't wish to tell me what your image is, that's your decision, but to suggest that I'd in any way use that confidence badly when I'm reaching out with an olive branch...

well, that speaks to your character sir.

Schmeldontino

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

01/23/2009 03:03:36 PM · #85

In the mists of time and place, along a path long forgotten, lies the way to a future that we can never conceive. As the mists coalesce into dew, building upon the boughs and the branches, to finally trace a path through the emptiness and strike the waters below, one man sets upon that path. Finding it by luck and random chance, lost for days in the thick and unforgiving forest, he goes to his knees and gives a thankful cry.

And so with one foot in front of the other, he sets off down this salvation, into the deepening fog, his form turning to shadow, then melting away, towards what he hopes is civilization and rescue. Instead, he unwittingly enters a world that is not his own, a world apart and between, a world of horror and fantasy, and is lost to time.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/23/2009 03:03:37 PM · #86

my tongue is bleeding

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/23/2009 03:03:40 PM · #87

Originally posted by hahn23:

What's stopping this person from sharing the information with a group of friends who do vote?

The same thing that stops friends, family members, GTG participants and validation reviewers: basic honesty and respect. PMs to one or two members for advice or title suggestions is probably as common as asking a member of your own household, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn't influence your votes. Edward is notable for his honest and insightful comments (as evidenced by this thread), and we highly encourage that. If you don't appreciate or want anything but praise during the voting, and are unwilling to provide him a means of avoiding comments, then you're basically out of luck.

01/23/2009 03:06:41 PM · #88

Just thought it was illegal to share images and titles with other members prior to the completion of a challenge... regardless of stated intention to hold confidentiality. Maybe I was wrong!

Thanks, K10DGuy, for removing the disturbing prose on two of my FS challenge entries. I appreciate the removal, as the comments really did upset me.... and had nothing to do with photography.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

01/23/2009 03:15:12 PM · #89

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by hahn23:
What's stopping this person from sharing the information with a group of friends who do vote?

The same thing that stops friends, family members, GTG participants and validation reviewers: basic honesty and respect. PMs to one or two members for advice or title suggestions is probably as common as asking a member of your own household, and there's nothing wrong with that as long as it doesn't influence your votes. Edward is notable for his honest and insightful comments (as evidenced by this thread), and we highly encourage that. If you don't appreciate or want anything but praise during the voting, and are unwilling to provide him a means of avoiding comments, then you're basically out of luck.

I appreciate constructive criticism and suggestions for improvement. I have marked all kinds of comments as helpful, so it's not fair to suggest I only mark "praise" comments as helpful. But, I refuse to mark "unhelpful" comments as helpful..... unless that is somehow the culture of the website. If so, then I will certainly comply. However, if that's the case, then why have the "helpful" check box?

I'm sure you're right about Edward, but I don't know him... like you do. He's a complete stranger to me. Not a great idea to share trust with an unknown person. I didn't like his dreadful story placed on my image. But, it's gone now, so this is resolved for me.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

01/23/2009 03:17:11 PM · #90

It was a day, like any other day. The sun was rising, and had just cleared the rooftops to shine down on the masses gathering for their morning tea and coffee and scones, and whatever else was the pleasure of the people starting their day. So it was when the first few people looked up an saw it.

Over the rooftops it came, the giant hovering... thing. Pure black, seeming to suck in all the light. The first few people to notice stopped suddenly, to stare, in awe and fright and disbelief. Some broke through the shock to grab for cameras. Others finally noticed the people looking and glanced up themselves, and were then entranced as well.

It advanced slowly, this thing. This massive hovering disc of blackness personified. Those that stood there watching it could not tell if it was an object, or some kind of advancing nothingness. It seemed to be both there, and not there. It seemed to be both round and flat. Then, without a sound, it stopped.

Now, most of the people in the streets had noticed it and had gathered and were standing around in an awed sort of silence. A few whispers slid through the crowd, but it was as if nobody dared to speak. They barely dared to move. Then, a strange humming began. It felt as if it came from within their very heads. Slight, at first, like the noise of an old television that was on, but not connected to any input. Just an annoying little buzz in their minds. Then, it began to grow, to change in decibel and pitch, to become both louder and lower, increasing more and more each and every second.

People began to grab their heads, their ears. Some screamed, some moaned in pain, some in a sort of disturbing ecstasy. Most of the crowd dropped to their knees, crying out in anguish and pain.

A sudden pulse came from that hovering mass of black then. A pulse that was both light and not light. Like a sound wave rendered visible. It came from that thing, and as it passed down to the city below, as it passed among the people gathered there, they were suddenly blown apart, turned to ash, and scattered on a wind that shouldn't have been able to exist.

They were obliterated, each and every one, and the deep and resonant humming ended as quickly as it had began, and the blackness began to retreat, and the sounds of emptiness in the streets reigned free.

As a Stephen King fan, I approve. :-)

And as an added bonus, I got poetry from

rinac:

Take me not to palaces, or bridges or to towers.
Please donâ��t take me anywhere I have to queue for hours.
I do not care for Queens, or for Kings or Presidents,
I do not care for Popes or Duchesses of Kent.
I am quite keen on galleries, with art upon the walls,
And ancient ruins please me, and lakes and waterfalls.
If nature had a hand in it, then you can count me in,
But if you pay a price to stand in line, my patience will wear thin.
Take me somewhere wonderful, with food and drink and a view.
Take me somewhere colourful where I can discuss the world with you.
Leave out all the tourists traps and foreigners with glee.
A hundred million foreigners messing up the place.
Like me.
- (some aussie dude) elliot cowan

I am not running for office, but I approve both of these messages. :-)

zackdezon

Nikon D300

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR

01/23/2009 03:18:55 PM · #91

It was one thing to have a parent that was a photographer, thought Rose, but it is entirely another to have a parent that was a photographer and a professional clown.

Rose scowled and plotted her revenge, as her friends stood just off frame and laughed amongst themselves.

Ivo

01/23/2009 03:31:28 PM · #92

The question I have is, are these stories for the benefit of the photographer, forum members or for yourself? Maybe these photos are for the benefit of elevating K10Guy's comments to forum "Super Stardom"? You simply stated that you do not vote on the images that act as a platform for your stories. I can see how some people would find this upsetting as they see little mutual benefit. It would be nice to see a thread titled, "Revisited images illuminated by K10Guy's Comments". Take a moment and think about that.

Hmmm, I personally don't care but this one sided argument that we all should be grateful for having these stories attached is irritating. Not everybody likes having a comment like this hung on their photo so why not give them the option of having it discretely removed without having to get scrutinized by either K10Guy or the fourm mob? It cant be that hard for site council to help with this one.

If not, K10Guy should be prepared to get his comments blasted just as we get our photos blasted by non-existent trolls and bag heads.

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

01/23/2009 03:33:16 PM · #93

As far as I can recall I've never gotten a K10 cooment :-( I wish I had...

R.

Olympus 50mm f/1.8 MF Normal Zuiko

01/23/2009 03:36:18 PM · #94

Originally posted by Ivo:

If it had been dealt with discreetly in the first place, it wouldn't have been a problem. Hahn himself chose to bring it public, nobody else.

My intention is to have it benefit everyone. To give a little something different and unique to the DPC experience. If someone doesn't like them, they have the option to Private Message me and have me A) remove it, and B) give me the tools to make sure they don't get another one.

It's pretty straight-forward.

Don't jump on others because Hahn himself chose to have this be a public issue. I tried my best to deal with it privately, as I will with anyone in the future that may have a problem. Don't make this one small incident become something it isn't.

emorgan49

Olympus E-5

01/23/2009 03:36:51 PM · #95

Comment by K10DGuy:

Purdy sat there, putting up with the indignity, the injustice, the humiliation.

She was to be married off to a bulldog, named Ralph, of all things. Ralph, she thought, HAH! Named after the sound of his bark most like. Humans could be such cruel creatures. After all we do for them. We love them, we play with them, we let them think they are the masters, and for what?

So that Purdy could sit here in a bridal veil for a photo and be married off to a bulldog named Ralph.

And the kicker? Purdy wasn't even female. Would it kill the owner to lift his leg and check?

Purdy sat there, and sighed, and put up with the indignity.

Ivo

01/23/2009 03:45:42 PM · #96

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

Think about what you just said Edward. You have made this public by hanging it on their image in the first place. Hahn is just one of those folks that spoke up. Maybe not in a way that is appreciated by everyone but unique never the less. This is like the Pot calling the Kettle Black. I appreciate his wanting to hang a "No Junk Mail" sign on his images as I appreciate you wanting to market yourself. Some folks just do not want to subscribe to your form of marketing ....that's all.

Message edited by author 2009-01-23 15:48:54.

pix-al

Canon EOS-5D

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

01/23/2009 03:50:18 PM · #97

k10dguy- Your comments are awesome - I really hope to get one one day.

To those of you who say his comments are nothing to do with photography or your photograph, you must be mad?
This guy obviously has a very creative side. When he views your image, the story he comes up with is driven by what he sees in your image and how it plays out in a series of events in his mind. You should be honoured that he has taken the time to share the story with you...
Not everyone who looks at a photo sees the "Technicals". Some like to see the emotion and the story behind the image. If his interpretation is different to yours, so be it. Each person appreciates art in different ways.

Keep 'em coming,

k10dguy!

sher

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Tamron AF 28-300mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di LD Aspherical IF for Canon

01/23/2009 03:51:29 PM · #98

i don't have a K10DGuy comment. *sigh*

J-Me

Sony DSLR-A200

Sony 75-300 mm f/4.5-5.6

01/23/2009 03:51:31 PM · #99

Wow, I cannot see what the uproar is over K10DGuy's comments??? :(

We all get comments...actually, we tend to BEG for comments and complain bitterly that no one is taking the time to give them! Ok, I see that we are all asking for comments as to WHY our shots are doing well, what people like about them, or on the reverse side of things, why they are not doing well, or someone has scored them a 1 or a 2 or a 3 when we feel that our shots are deserving of higher scores..most of the time, rightly so. The bottom line is, we all want comments and we all want "this is terrific" styled comments more than anything else.

Ok, so now we have someone who has taken a different approach. He's gone to the trouble of leaving little stories behind as a different approach. Comical, more often than not. It's a REFRESHING BREAK!!! It's DIFFERENT!!! And, personally, I find it a boost to see that someone has taken the time and effort to actually SEE something in my shot enough to have written something about it and actually GET a message from my shots! That means that someone has actually taken the time and effort to see something in your shot...something that you have captured that has caught their attention enough to "get it"! What is so wrong with that? More often than not, the viewers are slipping through shots, looking only for an instant, not even long enough to truly see what you're trying to portray in your shot. They are looking for "technicals, technicals, technicals" and unless it is an outstanding or breathtaking shot and technically brilliant, they are going to be looking to pick holes and find flaws in your technicals and comment on such. That means a critical/negative comment sitting on your shot's comments. Question: Does a short, usually poorly written negative comment look BETTER on your shot's comment section than a little story from someone who has taken the time to not only write it but, to see something in your photo to write about? I don't see what the huge insult is here??

As for giving K10DGuy kudos for his comments on this thread...hey, it's got to take time to come up with all of this stuff...not only creation wise but in looking at your photos deeply enough to see a story in there to write! Why shouldn't he get appreciative credit for it in a thread like this?! This is JUST as creative as the shots that we take and I can bet, takes MORE time than the editing that we do on our shots!

Personally, I cannot add to this thread as he's not graced my shots with one of his famous comments *sniff, sniff*. And, in case anyone is wondering, I am not exactly one of K10DGuy's favorite people in DPC, I'm sure. He and I have "gone to the mats" so to speak on forum topics in here from time to time. *grin* But, I DO respect and admire him and give him credit in this situation and cannot, for the life of me, see why this would be SO offensive to a few??? It's beyond all reason as to why you'd have such distain for something like this, while tolerating comments like, "just doesn't do it for me"! LOL How many times have we all had those?

Or, is it just that there's a thread devoted to K10DGuy's comments that has a few people reeling? I don't see the point behind the uproar???