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07/29/2006 08:08:41 PM · #126 |
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
But I also understand that mk is one of the cool kids and I'm a speck of nothing to DPC's social cliques, and I'm no stranger to schoolyard politics. Battles of that nature aren't worth fighting, and therefore, I fold. |
I can only imagine that everyone else is laughing at this twice as much as I am. |
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07/29/2006 08:09:49 PM · #127 |
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07/29/2006 08:13:38 PM · #128 |
I hate mk too, but elas, she's hawt so I'd do her. Does that make her a cool kid? :/ hmmm.
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07/29/2006 08:17:15 PM · #129 |
I don't hate mk, but I think she hates me, which is just as bad or even worse...
R.
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07/29/2006 08:23:00 PM · #130 |
Originally posted by PhantomEWO:
Many point and shoot cameras have the ability to go into the menu and set it up to shot manually. My guess is 99.99%, Ivory Soap pure, most users with a Point and shoot have never even looked at their manual or menu or tried to set the time, Av or Tv.
Instead of complaining, how about users of the different PS camera study their owners manuals and let's get a list of which ones can be put into a manual mode. |
Actually, most of those cameras don't have those modes available. AV and TV are Canon specific modes, and many people do not have the Canon A series. That's one of the few lower end cameras that has those modes. :) |
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07/29/2006 09:09:57 PM · #131 |
This horse has been beaten to death. We have been around and around. Let's just do a challenge everyone can do.
 Members Challenge: Spin and shoot
Details: Get a baseball or softball bat and place it big end down on the ground. Place your forehead on the knob of the bat. While holding your head on the bat now spin around in circles ten times. Pick up your camera and take a picture within 5 seconds spinning. :) j/k-ing
Message edited by author 2006-07-29 21:21:59.
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07/29/2006 10:24:40 PM · #132 |
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
This horse has been beaten to death. We have been around and around. Let's just do a challenge everyone can do.
Members Challenge: Spin and shoot
Details: Get a baseball or softball bat and place it big end down on the ground. Place your forehead on the knob of the bat. While holding your head on the bat now spin around in circles ten times. Pick up your camera and take a picture within 5 seconds spinning. :) j/k-ing |
Ok they are spinning, now what? ;)
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07/29/2006 10:26:05 PM · #133 |
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
This horse has been beaten to death. We have been around and around. Let's just do a challenge everyone can do.
Members Challenge: Spin and shoot
Details: Get a baseball or softball bat and place it big end down on the ground. Place your forehead on the knob of the bat. While holding your head on the bat now spin around in circles ten times. Pick up your camera and take a picture within 5 seconds spinning. :) j/k-ing |
This is unfair and discriminates against non baseball playing nations! I demand we expand the challenge to include cricket bats!
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07/29/2006 10:46:26 PM · #134 |
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
This horse has been beaten to death. We have been around and around. Let's just do a challenge everyone can do.
Members Challenge: Spin and shoot
Details: Get a baseball or softball bat and place it big end down on the ground. Place your forehead on the knob of the bat. While holding your head on the bat now spin around in circles ten times. Pick up your camera and take a picture within 5 seconds spinning. :) j/k-ing
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Hey! I've got one of those. ;^)
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07/29/2006 11:07:48 PM · #135 |
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
This horse has been beaten to death. We have been around and around. Let's just do a challenge everyone can do.
Members Challenge: Spin and shoot
Details: Get a baseball or softball bat and place it big end down on the ground. Place your forehead on the knob of the bat. While holding your head on the bat now spin around in circles ten times. Pick up your camera and take a picture within 5 seconds spinning. :) j/k-ing |
Oh, at LAST a challenge made for me! I do SO have y'all beaten here! Due to my deafness (the death of the nerves in my inner ears) I am completely immune to dizziness, vertigo, seasickness, and related bedevilments. Bring it ON!
R.
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07/29/2006 11:56:10 PM · #136 |
Originally posted by blemt:
Originally posted by Southern Gentleman:
This horse has been beaten to death. We have been around and around. Let's just do a challenge everyone can do.
Members Challenge: Spin and shoot
Details: Get a baseball or softball bat and place it big end down on the ground. Place your forehead on the knob of the bat. While holding your head on the bat now spin around in circles ten times. Pick up your camera and take a picture within 5 seconds spinning. :) j/k-ing |
This is unfair and discriminates against non baseball playing nations! I demand we expand the challenge to include cricket bats!
Ok for the Brits, Ausies and others once under the Commonweath of Great Britain. Here's the Cricket Bat entry ;) Sorry no sticky wickets.
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07/31/2006 04:08:21 PM · #137 |
Originally posted by karmabreeze:
Originally posted by coronamv:
I say live with it MK is right! |
No one's bothered to explain why she's right. Possibly because she's not, but mk is mk and I am no one of consequence. Her broken leg metaphor doesn't hold up at all, but no one here wants to understand why, and I've given up on explaining it to people who are disturbingly happy to conveniently forget that the P&S folks want to learn and participate too. The mentality is distinctly Orwellian: "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." But I also understand that mk is one of the cool kids and I'm a speck of nothing to DPC's social cliques, and I'm no stranger to schoolyard politics. Battles of that nature aren't worth fighting, and therefore, I fold. |
Actually people here have tried to explain why she's right. You have simply disagreed which is your prerogative but it seems you're in the minority. Oh and I feel the broken leg metaphor is actually spot on. Much more so than yours using suffragettes and the like.
I'm no one of consequence here (not that I think those agreeing with MK are doing so because she is). I'm not taking an opinion in order to support or butt up against someone I like/ dislike. And I'm certainly not in favour of forgetting P&S folks.
And yet I too agree with MK.
This site is about allowing ALL users to learn and grow and participate. And given the very wide range of equipment and skills levels that means providing some challenges that are better for some equipment and levels and some challenges that are better for others. As long as the balance is fair (which I feel it very much is) then I think everything is just fine. It's not the case that every challenge has to be suitable for every single kind of equipment and skills level because that would essentially lead to those with more complex equipment and/ or higher skills levels being unable to progress in some areas and they would likely no longer get anything from the site.
As it is now, there is always at least one challenge a week that is suitable for any given member not only to be able to enter but ALSO to grow and learn from. And THAT is the point of the site.
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07/31/2006 08:27:25 PM · #138 |
Ok, I'm super lame. This still irks me, so I'm kicking the horse's corpse around for therapy's sake.
Here's why the broken leg metaphor doesn't hold up:
I'm arguing over the exclusion of a potentially substantial group. When voting controversy over uncounted votes from minorities surfaced in Florida, the government bent over backward to make sure their votes counted. They were a substantial group, and even though they were not rich, they mattered.
You're arguing over the exclusion of a single individual. An individual who is injured in such a way as to be prevented from voting gets no preferential treatment. But what would have happened if Katrina had hit on Election Day, leaving most of the state of Louisiana unable to vote? Do you really think that the federal government just would have written New Orleans off, said that they didn't really matter anyway? My guess is no.
We're arguing the difference between apples and oranges. Think of P&S users as a substantial group, not as a single individual. THAT is why the broken leg metaphor doesn't work.
Another voting metaphor that might better illustrate this from the individual standpoint: If someone shows up to a polling place with a lengthy line in a tricked out Ferrari, does he get to cut in line in front of the people who drove Honda Civics? Does his vote mean more than the one from the guy who walked?
Other reasons why this argument is going nowhere:
I'm arguing strictly equipment.
You're throwing skill level in as though it was my idea when skill level was never something I addressed and have continually pointed out to be irrelevant - which is your side's entire argument anyway. I agree with you on this! Stop telling me that I'm equating equipment with skill level when I never have done so!
I'm pointing out at every opportunity that you can use whatever technique and equipment you like on any challenge and learn from it and improve upon it and teach it and thus spread the wealth of knowledge, and yet still not hinder participation from anyone else. I am not arguing to stop anyone from expanding their horizons. I am not voting for a cap on individual growth, or discussion, or anything that might restrict on-site education. These things can and will still happen within an inclusive framework.
You're completely ignoring this part, even when I put it in bold so that it can't be missed.
Meh. And feh. And double feh. I really don't understand how this could possibly be so impossible for the rest of the world to see clearly. I'm happy to answer whatever may be asked of me via PM, but I'm putting this thread on Ignore now.
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08/01/2006 07:26:59 AM · #139 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
... As it is now, there is always at least one challenge a week that is suitable for any given member not only to be able to enter but ALSO to grow and learn from. And THAT is the point of the site. |
Very good point. This is what helps keep DPChallenge an exciting place, still, after numerous challenges and time spent here. |
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