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09/09/2007 10:38:44 PM · #101
I live in Hawaii. There are lots of Japanese here. In this part of the U.S. Nikon is not pronounced with a long "i". It's their camera, so I guess they know the correct pronunciation. (I've changed the way I pronounce it since moving here as I can't see much point in perpetuating an incorrect pronunciation just because I didn't know any better before.)

(Of course, I own a Canon, so it's not such a big deal for me.)

Message edited by author 2007-09-10 02:59:42.
09/10/2007 10:45:53 AM · #102
Originally posted by chimericvisions:

Originally posted by noraneko:

And just for sheetz and giggles? Bokeh is "boh-kay".


...No, it's bo-ke, not bo-ke-i.

(sukoshi nihongo ga wakarimashita. san nen manabu koutougakkou desu)

I can dig through my dictionaries, but I won't even pretend to be fluent in sentence structure. :p


chimericvisions, um, okay. Generally when explaining Japanese pronunciation, I write the English version in the most phonetically understandable manner. In other words, bo-ke, as you write, is subject to interpretation, where as boh-kay is two syllables with the second being the long "a".

Possibly it would have been better had I written "bo-keh".

I'm sorry to say it seems like you were attempting to show your prowess in a language in which you are not fluent.

The first sentence you wrote translates to "I did understand a little Japanese" whereas I think you would prefer to say "I do understand a little Japanese" as corrected by zxaar.

I think in the second sentence you are trying to say you studied (or have been studying?) for three years in high school?

Koutougakkou de san nen nihongo o benkyoo shimashita (I studied Japanese for three years in high school)

or

Koutougakkou de san nen nihongo o benkyoo shite imasu (I have been studying Japanese at my high school for three years)

You can use the verb manabu as well, but it is less common in this context.

Hope this is helpful.

Message edited by author 2007-09-10 11:08:13.
09/10/2007 11:11:21 AM · #103
Originally posted by mavrik:

Of course you trade it for a Can-on.

WOOPS.

Did I say that? DANG IT.


You wash your mouth out! Imagine swearing like that when there is such a serious debate raging all around you:)

I am a Brit and of course we invented the english language so the definitive pronunciation is as already stated - Nick-on. I therefore recommend it to the house.
09/10/2007 11:18:12 AM · #104
Originally posted by mileskea:

Originally posted by mavrik:

Of course you trade it for a Can-on.

WOOPS.

Did I say that? DANG IT.


You wash your mouth out! Imagine swearing like that when there is such a serious debate raging all around you:)

I am a Brit and of course we invented the english language so the definitive pronunciation is as already stated - Nick-on. I therefore recommend it to the house.


Now what I'd like to know is what the Aussies call it...? Any Roos on board right now?
09/10/2007 11:28:25 AM · #105
I pronounce it - YO GIRL GET NAKED I GOT A CAMERA.
09/10/2007 11:34:58 AM · #106
Originally posted by ajdelaware:

I pronounce it - YO GIRL GET NAKED I GOT A CAMERA.


That reminds me of what a photographer I knew that shot for adult magazines told me. He said, "All through high school and college, I spent a great part of my time trying to figure out how to get girls to get naked for me. Then, I realized that all I have to do is pick up a camera and tell them to take off their clothes..."
09/10/2007 11:39:32 AM · #107
Its ridiculously true. If watching girls kiss is your thing, bring out a camera. A friend of mine decided she wanted to try modeling, and found very quickly that most of these "photographers" had very little talent, and all wanted to shoot nudes all the time.
09/10/2007 11:44:09 AM · #108
This one salesman at a store I shop at in Milwaukee pronounces it like this Nay Cone, Not sure where he is from though.
09/10/2007 11:45:38 AM · #109
I've always heard it as "nigh-con", and the lenses as "nick-kor".
09/10/2007 05:45:33 PM · #110
Originally posted by noraneko:



Now what I'd like to know is what the Aussies call it...? Any Roos on board right now?


Over here it is pronounced (very quietly as it is blasphemy to say such a word.....Nik-on....as in...Sit-on!!!

But the real photographers only carry real cameras...and just as camera starts with C...so does the only true brand...C..anon!!!
09/10/2007 06:30:04 PM · #111
I can't say it at all, the word is barred from sullying my mouth. :-P

I'm going with Judi on this one.

And I'm ordering my 40D today.

Message edited by author 2007-09-10 18:31:17.
09/11/2007 05:48:48 AM · #112
O.K. class:

The first syllable in "Nikon" is pronounced just like the first syllable is in the word "nickel" as used in the following sentence: "When compared to a Canon the Nikon is not worth a plugged nickel."

See how easy that was?
09/11/2007 06:30:18 AM · #113
One more Aussie vote for the Nickel Nickon. Never heard any other way until I read this thread. :)

09/11/2007 08:12:03 AM · #114
ok, now move to next class: the assignement "Olympus"

oh-why-em-puse :-)
09/11/2007 08:57:33 AM · #115
I pronoune it as: kan-un

Is there any other way to say DSLR? ;-) As a new 40D owner, I sure am getting cocky, aren't I? (he-he)

09/11/2007 09:03:51 AM · #116
Originally posted by ganders:

Aluminium.
I rest my case ;-)

That's not really a word.....it's an accepted colloquial variant........8
09/11/2007 09:20:37 AM · #117
I've always heard it pronounced nigh-con, like icon, dating back to the late 60s. I'm an American through and through and have never heard it any other way.....so much so that I was amused to see, and read, this thread.

I also always heard Nikkor pronounced nick-or, and the same for the Nikkormat cameras.....anybody remember those?????
09/11/2007 09:31:08 AM · #118
I still have my nikkormat manual slr - love that thing - a tank with a shutter...

If Nikon wanted to make sure they said it 'the right way', they would not be airing ads like this on TV...

Nikon Ad in USA

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I've always heard it pronounced nigh-con, like icon, dating back to the late 60s. I'm an American through and through and have never heard it any other way.....so much so that I was amused to see, and read, this thread.

I also always heard Nikkor pronounced nick-or, and the same for the Nikkormat cameras.....anybody remember those?????


Message edited by author 2007-09-11 10:06:57.
09/11/2007 03:59:51 PM · #119
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I've always heard it pronounced nigh-con, like icon, dating back to the late 60s. I'm an American through and through and have never heard it any other way.....so much so that I was amused to see, and read, this thread.

I also always heard Nikkor pronounced nick-or, and the same for the Nikkormat cameras.....anybody remember those?????

Ditto.
12/11/2007 10:41:36 PM · #120
Of course I would pronounce it the way it was meant to be pronounced when it was created by the Japanese. Nikon (Knee-Kon) when written in Japanese comes from the word Nippon (Knee-Pon) meaning "Japan" so Knee-Kon would mean "Japan-Kon", Kon having been adapted from Zeiss IKON. On the other hand if you try to write "Nai-Kon" back into Japanese it would mean something completely different. "Nai" as in "Naiyo" is a Japanese slang implying a negative response, so saying Nai-Kon would mean "Not Kon" which has nothing to do with Japan at all and least still to Nippon Kogaku or Nikon Corporation.

So the Americans have got it all wrong, "Nai-Kon" is a name that does not exist in the Japanese language. When pronouncing names and all proper nouns for that matter, we should always refer back to the source of the name and get the pronunciation correct or risk making fools of ourselves.

Imagine calling Sioux "Sucks" or Beatles "Beatless" or Doug "Dog" or Kahn oh never mind... We have a local Cafe near where I live and it is called "Master-Baker", and I have actually heard someone pronouncing its name with a "T" instead of with the "K". LOL.

Joe Bust anyone, that's "George Bush" in case you are wondering!

BTW who is Hillary Klingon?

Message edited by author 2007-12-12 01:13:39.
08/07/2008 10:43:33 AM · #121
This is what Wikipedia had:

The name Nikon, which dates from 1946, is a merging of Nippon K¨­gaku (ÈÕ±¾¹âѧ: "Japan Optical") and an imitation of Zeiss Ikon. Nikon is pronounced differently around the world. The Japanese pronunciation of the name is /nikoɴ/, but in the United States people also use /ˈnaɪkɒn/ and /ˈnɪkɒn/.[1]

For what it's worth, I have always prononced it N eye Kon.

Message edited by author 2008-08-07 10:43:57.
08/07/2008 12:28:38 PM · #122
I sold Nikons for 3 years and in North America it's Neyecon except for in the province of Quebec where the french say Neekon as I think they would also in France, Belgium, Italy, etc. From what I read in this thread they also use the later in the UK.
08/07/2008 01:23:48 PM · #123
Kan-On
or
Kan-an

;-)

08/07/2008 01:31:34 PM · #124
Originally posted by Jac:

I sold Nikons for 3 years and in North America it's Neyecon except for in the province of Quebec where the french say Neekon as I think they would also in France, Belgium, Italy, etc. From what I read in this thread they also use the later in the UK.


I confirmed, both French and English people will say Neekon. On the other side of the Atlantic, most 'yankees' I met say Neyekon...dunno why though :(
08/07/2008 01:38:45 PM · #125
I live in Japan and it's pronounced knee-con. Wikipedia has a media file that plays the pronunciation. I would say that since it's a Japanese company, the Japanese pronunciation would be the 'proper' way to say it. But that's not going to stop people from saying it any other way.
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