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10/18/2004 03:15:35 PM · #51
Originally posted by myqyl:

I guess I may have misread the intent of the challenge... Aren't these



Implied Lions?


No, they are real toy lions...to be impaled they need a sharp object sticking in them...or, sorry...just read it again, that was implied.

Damn! Need those new glasses!(spectacles)
10/18/2004 03:21:20 PM · #52
Originally posted by Formerlee:

Originally posted by myqyl:

I guess I may have misread the intent of the challenge... Aren't these

Implied Lions?


No, they are real toy lions...to be impaled they need a sharp object sticking in them...or, sorry...just read it again, that was implied.

Damn! Need those new glasses!(spectacles)


Oh my... Impaled Lions... I may have to go with this if it gets any worse... My daughter's going to impale me if I try it...

Message edited by author 2004-10-18 15:22:53.
10/20/2004 02:43:31 PM · #53
Originally posted by Konador:

So this would fit?


I think I'm getting to grips with it now.

Would exactly fit, in my book. It was the first image I thought of when I read the challenge description.
10/20/2004 04:26:10 PM · #54
Here you go, but it was a controversial shot so I will give a link instead of the thumbnail so if someone doesn't want to see it they don't have too.

here you go
10/20/2004 04:38:51 PM · #55
Originally posted by G4Ds:

Here you go, but it was a controversial shot so I will give a link instead of the thumbnail so if someone doesn't want to see it they don't have too.

here you go


Well done.
I don't really see that as an implied line, though...



Message edited by author 2004-10-20 16:39:34.
10/20/2004 04:52:25 PM · #56
It forms a triangle. Implied lines also means implied shapes. Or you could say there are three lines that form a triangle. The triangle is a major art element.
10/20/2004 04:53:33 PM · #57
A pyramid of cheerleaders would have implied lines of a triangle too. I have no pics of that though.
10/20/2004 04:54:57 PM · #58
I found this example though it is not a photograph.

example
10/21/2004 08:39:43 PM · #59
Ok, consider this one .....

Look at the palm of your hand, or the lines on the back of your fingers.

Are these lines or implied lines?

Initially I thought lines .... but look again at your palm, it is not a line, it is made up of tiny little lines that combine to make an "implied line" ..... I think.

SO, look at your palm lines, in detail, are they implied or real lines?
10/21/2004 08:48:59 PM · #60
i think their just lines, indentions.
10/21/2004 08:51:50 PM · #61

Would the lights shining through be implied lines?
I thought I knew what "implied lines" meant, but now I'm not so sure.
10/21/2004 08:51:59 PM · #62
Originally posted by G4Ds:

I found this example though it is not a photograph.

example


Yes, but I bet if I had a photograph like that it would get 1's as not meeting the challenge. People are going to expect rows of things.
10/21/2004 08:55:33 PM · #63
Originally posted by G4Ds:

I found this example though it is not a photograph.

example


Shapes are enclosed lines, but I was afriad to try it on my entry even though an art teacher insisted that the lines were implied. I'm still a little worried about how the one I've submitted may be "interpreted" although there's not a "line" in it. I'm not sure we can educated enough people to take the chance on implied lines incorporating implied shapes. Just an opinion :)

Not that people here are uneducated!! It's just that we always seem to have such a hard time interpreting these challenges.

edited for spelling (bad spellers are not necessairly uneducated!)

Message edited by author 2004-10-21 20:57:13.
10/21/2004 08:56:11 PM · #64
Originally posted by nshapiro:

Originally posted by G4Ds:

I found this example though it is not a photograph.

example


Yes, but I bet if I had a photograph like that it would get 1's as not meeting the challenge. People are going to expect rows of things.


AMEN!
10/21/2004 09:09:26 PM · #65
Re the lines on your palms:
Originally posted by riotspyne:

i think their just lines, indentions.


If you look carefully though they are not a single line, on my hand at least. It is what looks like a single line, but look closer and it is not a line at all, but made up of 100's of little criss cross lines.

To me that makes it an "implied line". Like with the line of trees, it looks like a line, but look closely and it is lots on other things that from a distance look like a line. In this case it is tiny lines, disjointed, that look like a single line from a distance.

Not arguing the point here, just trying to get my head round this one.
10/21/2004 09:39:04 PM · #66
I wonder if this photo would work?


10/21/2004 10:21:41 PM · #67
Originally posted by jmlelii:

I wonder if this photo would work?



I think it works but there's another guideline I am considering: the photo must not have any REAL lines. In the 3 seconds some voters look at a photo, they will see the real lines and you will then be richly rewarded with ones.

Just my jaundiced opinion.
10/21/2004 10:37:34 PM · #68
Ok. Here's what I've learned this week, so far....
THIS:

...IMAGE is made up of only implied lines. There are no real lines here! Only the ones you imagine from the shapes and colors, which imply the lines.

(Not an easy photographic subject...at first...and then..!..!....!)
10/21/2004 11:19:41 PM · #69
Originally posted by jmlelii:

I wonder if this photo would work?



This is almost exactly what I was talking to the art teacher about. I had pure white straws. She said as long as the straws did not have lines on them, the circles they formed would be implied lines. I was just too afraid to risk it. Tried something else. Still worried!
10/22/2004 12:16:00 AM · #70
Originally posted by dipaulk:

She said as long as the straws did not have lines on them, the circles they formed would be implied lines.


Wow. Until that moment I was thinking "straight lines" only .... but now I read there I realise there is no actualy requirement for the line to be straight, it can be a curve, a circle, and still be a line.

Wonder how many voters will only be thinking "straight".

I think I'll sit this challenge out, it is far to obscure for there to be a consensus of opinion I think ... and most people don't even read here.
10/22/2004 12:28:56 AM · #71
Originally posted by Natator:


Wonder how many voters will only be thinking "straight".

I think I'll sit this challenge out, it is far to obscure for there to be a consensus of opinion I think ... and most people don't even read here.


are you scared to get a low score because of what others may think?
10/22/2004 01:08:05 AM · #72
Look at almost any outdoor picture and you will find implied lines. Just photographing a building will give you implied lines as the windows will show them. A city scene will show them, look at the blocks. A scenic will have a waterline, a tree line, etc, etc. Your qwert keyboard has them. They are everywhere.
10/22/2004 04:56:25 AM · #73
Originally posted by arpita:

Originally posted by Konador:

So this would fit?


I think I'm getting to grips with it now.

Would exactly fit, in my book. It was the first image I thought of when I read the challenge description.


i agree, this is a very good definition of implied lines. I think people are getting confused when they are saying a lamppost.. is that an implied line, cause it isn't drawn, or cause it is made by a human, what does that mean.. i don't think that has ANYTHING to do with it.

An implied line means that it is implied... assumed, or created with the imagination. For example these dots on this picture make us this of a line connecting them, if it didn't we wouldn't see H20. Or Three trees.. we would connect the tops to create a line between them, Or on the word rcund perhaps you might read round, because the letter c was created to a letter o with an IMPLIED line... or I I I there is an implied line there as well, connecting the tops of the I's

Message edited by author 2004-10-22 04:57:01.
10/22/2004 05:19:27 AM · #74
There are a lot of comments in these forums around the subject of photo's being marked down because they don't, (in the view of the marker), meet the title of the challenge.

I think this challenge is going to create a whole load of those type of issues because its so based on indiviual interpretation.

I must admit I'm having problems coming up with a subject.

Somebody mentioned the use of buildings etc. but....I've also read that a building is NOT an implied line, it is an actual line....

See what I mean?
10/22/2004 05:38:29 AM · #75
I came up with an idea I liked, but something similar has since been mentioned in forum discussions.

Back to the drawing board, I guess that the fact that it has been mentioned means that my idea was not that original in the first place, I know that I should not worry about it and just go ahead with my idea, but it does somewhat take the wind out of my sails knowing that the originality is no longer there.

No worries, there is no end of ideas, it's just a case of coming up with one :)

Darren
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