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05/30/2011 12:31:24 AM · #1 |
| Now, that's something I think I can do... I think! |
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05/30/2011 05:18:54 AM · #2 |
| Are we going to have a lot of lonely trees in green grass against blue sky or bands of fields in a colorful pattern? Or big fork on Lake Geneva? (these were my thoughts when I found out what the topic was :) |
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05/31/2011 06:16:23 AM · #3 |
| Would water work for this? |
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05/31/2011 06:20:07 AM · #4 |
Originally posted by Hipychik:
Would water work for this? |
Based on the last Landscape challenge, yes... |
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06/01/2011 01:30:30 PM · #5 |
| I THINK mine is a vista of some sort. It has water too. Oh boy... :) |
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06/01/2011 01:50:03 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Hipychik:
Would water work for this? |
I think Bear had posted something about this in the past...that landscape is a general term, and should not be restricted to our initial construct of what constitutes a landscape. This interpretation would include mountains, bodies of water, cities, etc. For me, it's essentially a canvas that includes multiple defining features of a scene, with little, or, preferably, no human element. |
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06/01/2011 02:44:59 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Originally posted by Hipychik:
Would water work for this? |
I think Bear had posted something about this in the past...that landscape is a general term, and should not be restricted to our initial construct of what constitutes a landscape. This interpretation would include mountains, bodies of water, cities, etc. For me, it's essentially a canvas that includes multiple defining features of a scene, with little, or, preferably, no human element. |
Water, definitely. For DPC purposes, "landscape" should be a broad term that includes subsets like "seascape" within it. It would be ridiculous, IMO, to DNMC shots with lots of water. And I say that even knowing that my current entry is an inland shot.
The "human element", likewise, is often present in our landscape, and I see no reason to freak out if it is included in the images. In particular, I think of shots with a foreground of neatly tended rows of crops; that's the hand of man, right? But surely it's a landscape, right? I see a single barn as a focal point in a broad, austere great plains shot. Certainly meets the challenge in my mind. I see urban landscapes, even, I'm OK with that, IF you can make them "minimal" enough, which might be easier said than done.
One thing about this challenge I like, is that, in theory at least, it should level the playing field for those who complain they don't live in "pretty" enough places to compete in landscape challenges; when you go minimalist with a landscape, you're thinking brow of hill, sweep of horizon, expanse of plains, stand of trees, lonely barn, clump of reeds, you get the idea. The *suggestion* of grandeur can, itself, be a grand thing.
Have fun, peoples!
R. |
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06/01/2011 03:11:19 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I see urban landscapes, even, I'm OK with that, IF you can make them "minimal" enough, which might be easier said than done. |
Fog can help ...  |
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06/01/2011 03:27:39 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I see urban landscapes, even, I'm OK with that, IF you can make them "minimal" enough, which might be easier said than done. |
Fog can help ... |
Yes, it can, General. :) Same shot, just a few more miles away - atop Mt. Diablo
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06/01/2011 03:43:56 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Originally posted by Hipychik:
Would water work for this? |
I think Bear had posted something about this in the past...that landscape is a general term, and should not be restricted to our initial construct of what constitutes a landscape. This interpretation would include mountains, bodies of water, cities, etc. For me, it's essentially a canvas that includes multiple defining features of a scene, with little, or, preferably, no human element. |
The "human element", likewise, is often present in our landscape, and I see no reason to freak out if it is included in the images. In particular, I think of shots with a foreground of neatly tended rows of crops; that's the hand of man, right? But surely it's a landscape, right? I see a single barn as a focal point in a broad, austere great plains shot. Certainly meets the challenge in my mind. I see urban landscapes, even, I'm OK with that, IF you can make them "minimal" enough, which might be easier said than done. |
To clarify "human element", I meant actual human beings...i.e., it shouldn't be about the people. |
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06/01/2011 03:49:50 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
The "human element", likewise, is often present in our landscape, and I see no reason to freak out if it is included in the images. In particular, I think of shots with a foreground of neatly tended rows of crops; that's the hand of man, right? But surely it's a landscape, right? I see a single barn as a focal point in a broad, austere great plains shot. Certainly meets the challenge in my mind. I see urban landscapes, even, I'm OK with that, IF you can make them "minimal" enough, which might be easier said than done. |
this would be a great example
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06/01/2011 03:58:50 PM · #12 |
DPC members should be tolerant and flexible of all kinds of landscape images. I hope they will be.
If the challenge was "minimal seascape" or "minimal cityscape", then landscapes w/o oceans and w/o buildings would be marked down for being DNMC. That's not what I would do, but that's how it would go.
I'm all in favor of being inclusive of many things. It would be good to place the emphasis on "minimal" and not worry too much about the proportion of land to water nor the anthropological and architectural elements.
This challenge is truly difficult for me, but I'll give it a try. I think the key for me will be getting to a place where I can crop out all the "clutter". LOL!!!! |
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06/01/2011 09:15:01 PM · #13 |
| I think the best known practitioner of minimalist landscape is Michael Kenna |
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06/01/2011 09:35:46 PM · #14 |
To bad I shot this a few hours too early for the challenge, I would have entered it just to see how many DNMC comments I got... LOL
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06/01/2011 09:36:55 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by LevT:
I think the best known practitioner of minimalist landscape is Michael Kenna |
Thanks for the link Lev! I don't know if I can make time to shoot for this challenge, but I enjoyed watching Kenna's video and listening to Snow Patrol as many fine images appeared before my eyes. Very inspirational stuff :) |
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06/01/2011 09:38:02 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Sirashley:
To bad I shot this a few hours too early for the challenge, I would have entered it just to see how many DNMC comments I got... LOL
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Nice shot! |
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06/01/2011 10:54:38 PM · #17 |
Some beautiful examples in color here:
//pixelcurse.com/photography/25-beautiful-examples-of-minimalist-landscape-photography
PS Mostly in color.
Message edited by author 2011-06-01 22:56:34. |
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06/01/2011 11:03:20 PM · #18 |
Question for all of you who are better at this whole photography thing... HOW IN THE WORLD DO I GET THIS EFFECT??
Effect.
Do I need fog? Do I need to edit it a certain way? Do I just need to become a better photographer? |
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06/01/2011 11:06:14 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
Question for all of you who are better at this whole photography thing... HOW IN THE WORLD DO I GET THIS EFFECT??
Effect.
Do I need fog? Do I need to edit it a certain way? Do I just need to become a better photographer? |
You need a long exposure....that was probably 1 minute or longer. The blown out portion was likely enhanced in post. |
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06/01/2011 11:08:02 PM · #20 |
| So I would need to do this at late sunset or early sunrise so that I don't over expose it? Or at night? |
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06/01/2011 11:08:36 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Brent_S:
Originally posted by Sirashley:
To bad I shot this a few hours too early for the challenge, I would have entered it just to see how many DNMC comments I got... LOL
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Nice shot! |
Thanks... I'm a big fan of minimalism, even though my wife hates it and constantly tells me so :) |
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06/01/2011 11:16:43 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
So I would need to do this at late sunset or early sunrise so that I don't over expose it? Or at night? |
I have just bought a ND8 filter in the hope that this would help with long exposure but I guess it still needs a bit more knowledge as the experimental shots I took at the weekend were still over exposed...unless I just need a higher strength filter?
I will have to go surfing on the net to find out how it is done, unless someone would kindly tell us on here??? :D
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06/01/2011 11:27:09 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by supanova:
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
So I would need to do this at late sunset or early sunrise so that I don't over expose it? Or at night? |
I have just bought a ND8 filter in the hope that this would help with long exposure but I guess it still needs a bit more knowledge as the experimental shots I took at the weekend were still over exposed...unless I just need a higher strength filter?
I will have to go surfing on the net to find out how it is done, unless someone would kindly tell us on here??? :D |
I just started learning this. NDx8 extends time 8x. It might be enough on a cloudy day. I got recently ND400 which extends time 400 times, for example f11 1/100 becomes f11 4s shot. You can also go onto max f stop, in my case I use f22. If it is really bright you can stack nd8 and nd400 and get 3200 times longer exposure! So 4s becomes 32s. Tripod is a must. |
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06/01/2011 11:39:22 PM · #24 |
| Soooo ND filters are a must... Even if I wanted to do this shot just after the sun goes down or before it comes up? I have one ND filter but it is very weak and I only use it during photo shoots when the light is really harsh or when I want to do something with just a tad more exposure time. |
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06/01/2011 11:52:43 PM · #25 |
| Go to this thread for the ND discussion. |
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