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 05/15/2021 02:36:50 PM · #76
Originally posted by Venser:
Originally posted by GolferDDS:
Your average score given is about a 4. That means that most pictures you rate are significantly below average. Would you please post a few pictures you consider 6̢۪s or above and a few that have done well in the voting that you have voted below 5 and explain your reasoning.

I'll get to the second half tonight or tomorrow. A little more difficult as you want reasoning and I need to play board games with the kids later.

I might put the following as the "best" photo I've seen on DPC.


In no particular order, other favourties.


I found it fascinating that you scored these ones high, thanks for posting, made me look a little harder at them.

I love finding out what people score on other photos, just so I can see where they are coming from and it makes me see others perspective and can and has sometimes made me appreciate a photo more.

Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed looking through them.
 05/15/2021 10:42:16 PM · #77
Originally posted by Cory:
... let me lay out the main virtue of voting along a fairly unique system (Disclaimer: I have never used this system, and SC can, I suspect, verify the veracity of that statement) where you either think something should move up, down or stay in the middle.

To the tune, the 1,5,10 are really the best votes to cast, as they count the most - and move the image towards the are you think it should be. - To an extreme, if you want to reduce your thoughts to "good/bad" you could even do 1/10 only. Seems reasonable really.

But this is where the theory of selfishness (my vote should count the most it can!) vs. egalitarianism (all votes are equal!) - while historically I've voted as the latter, if I should return, I would likely take the former approach, not only because I really don't mind having the maximum impact with my votes (after all, I've always been a fairly opinionated guy!) but also because it reduces my thought process to "Oh My God NO!" / "Meh, ok, fine, whatever" / "Yeah, dope, this is really cool!"...

That'll make it so much easier to vote - and I'll have a superb impact on every challenge I do vote in. An impact that, for my taste, is totally accurate.

What I don't have time to simulate, but am curious about, is the effect on overall scores. Would it end up like rounding up to every dollar when doing accounting (parity) or would it make a statistically significant difference over a broad spectrum of challenges...

..

Ok, pot stirring done.

I may go give this a shot. 1-5-0 only....


I compromise between the former and the latter. I do not want my vote to count more than others but I also want to use most of the 1-10 spectrum because I don't see why I should dilute my vote by voting in a small range. I rarely vote below 3, but not for any logical reason. I just tend to vote 3 for stuff I don't like so I can leave room for stuff that might be worse. I do the same thing for 7s, but in the case of 7s, I go back and bump them up. I don't bother bumping stuff down.

As to impact, your technique would absolutely have an impact in today's low voting environment. I've seen my individual votes change ribbon placement, and that's just with a 4 point difference.

05/16/2021 04:12:35 PM · #78
Interesting conversation, this. As the rating gradient goes, I'm more on the bland end. Don't feel a desire to make an outsize impact, so I more nudge than bludgeon. More smooth the contours than tame the wilderness. If the image is merely okay, I give it a five. It's not bad, the person tried, and so... If I think it's good, but it doesn't move or excite or impress me, a six. Maybe that's overgenerous, but it's where my logic leads. Seven is very good, eight is very, very good, and so on. It isn't that subjectivity doesn't come into play. It does, but less starkly, since it's part of a graduated approach. "Good," already, is larded with subjectivity. If I find the picture to be "bad", i.e., a misguided jumble, or what seems to be merely mailed in, I'll dip to a four. But I give rather few of those. If it offends my moral sensibility, I'll go lower, but that's happened only a bare handful of times. Personally, I'd find it difficult to choose between a one and a five, or a five and a ten. If the point is to bend the curve to your own opinion, hijack the site, wtf?
 05/16/2021 05:46:10 PM · #79
Doesn't the one, five, and 10 system violate voting rules? It seems like an attempt to make your votes count more than others.
, Which skews the results.

I've been trying to re-figure my voting. I keep thinking I should give more higher votes -- vote only on the specific challenge. 10 would be the best in the challenge, etc.

But I can't bring myself to give a ten to a photo that's just "meh", even if it is the best "meh" in the challenge

Message edited by author 2021-05-16 17:50:02.
 05/16/2021 06:24:28 PM · #80
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by Sisto:
now I understand, you are my wife
:)
smooch


My favorite exchange... ever on DPC.

LOL!

05/16/2021 08:32:56 PM · #81
Originally posted by streetpigeon:
Interesting conversation, this. As the rating gradient goes, I'm more on the bland end. Don't feel a desire to make an outsize impact, so I more nudge than bludgeon. More smooth the contours than tame the wilderness. If the image is merely okay, I give it a five. It's not bad, the person tried, and so... If I think it's good, but it doesn't move or excite or impress me, a six. Maybe that's overgenerous, but it's where my logic leads. Seven is very good, eight is very, very good, and so on. It isn't that subjectivity doesn't come into play. It does, but less starkly, since it's part of a graduated approach. "Good," already, is larded with subjectivity. If I find the picture to be "bad", i.e., a misguided jumble, or what seems to be merely mailed in, I'll dip to a four. But I give rather few of those. If it offends my moral sensibility, I'll go lower, but that's happened only a bare handful of times. Personally, I'd find it difficult to choose between a one and a five, or a five and a ten. If the point is to bend the curve to your own opinion, hijack the site, wtf?


I rather like this explanation of how to vote in such a mannaer that one can participate, leave one's mark on a full vote for a challenge, yet not make anyone feel that they've been chastised.

Voting on this site has always been fraught with frustration and unhappiness, and unfortunately, it's most often when someone's personal, subjective expectations become bruised.

Lashing out accomplishes absolutely nothing but negative reactions and responses. For the most part, one of the things I've always liked about this site is thart most participants are honest.

Why that translates to some people becoming upset eludes me. There are no cash prizes, the voting is anonymous, and the results you get are yours to review to see how your image was received.

The idea that any votes are malicious simply doesn't hold water. This isn't what this site is about. It's really just us asking what the rest of us think of their offering.

What we do with that information is on us. And it the grand scheme, the big picture, it doesn't mean a damn thing.

This is where we go, and the system we use, to gauge ourselves on differfent levels.

I've never had what I get here from anyuone or anywhere else.
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