Together, but Not The same - DPChallenge Forums

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

09/15/2015 01:09:37 PM · #1

Title your image descriptively, like ham & eggs, fast cars & beautiful women, lock & key, still water & a beautiful sky...

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

09/15/2015 01:16:43 PM · #2

Jules1x

Fujifilm X-T1

Fujifilm XF 23mm f/1.4 R

09/15/2015 10:37:06 PM · #3

A thinking challenge and a photographic challenge. Love this!

GeorgesBogaert

Canon RP

Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 IS Macro

09/18/2015 11:58:48 PM · #4

Here's a list for those don't wanna use their brains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_twins_(linguistics)

Ecce_Signum

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

09/19/2015 09:08:29 AM · #5

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

Here's a list for those don't wanna use their brains
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_twins_(linguistics)

Am guessing using that list will give a greater variation of shots than a free study then :)

Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 IS Macro

09/19/2015 03:24:57 PM · #6

I don't understand (color me dense).

Could someone please explain this in words a 5-year-old can understand?

GeorgesBogaert

Canon RP

09/19/2015 04:48:12 PM · #7

fish is good for the brain...
eat more fish Lydia :))

Ecce_Signum

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

09/19/2015 04:57:23 PM · #8

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:

fish is good for the brain...
eat more fish Lydia :))

or, in the style of the challenge, eat more Fish and Chips Lydia ;)

or, Liver and Bacon, Cheese and Pineapple, Bangers and Mash, Bread and Butter - get the idea? though it doesn't have to be food related.

09/19/2015 05:35:02 PM · #9

Originally posted by Lydia:

I don't understand (color me dense).

Could someone please explain this in words a 5-year-old can understand?

Watch this. Maybe it will help, maybe not.

sfalice

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS

09/19/2015 05:44:51 PM · #10

Originally posted by pixelpig:

Originally posted by Lydia:
I don't understand (color me dense).

Could someone please explain this in words a 5-year-old can understand?

Watch this. Maybe it will help, maybe not.

Awww, that was sweet (not sour).

09/19/2015 07:13:26 PM · #11

So, I can take a photograph of two things... any two things that aren't the same?

Then... what's the "thinking part" that peeps are talking about?

*still doesn't understand*

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

09/19/2015 07:15:04 PM · #12

P.S. I did enjoy the video! Ha!

GinaRothfels

Olympus 8mm f/1.8 M.Zuiko Digital ED Fisheye PRO Lens

09/19/2015 07:18:19 PM · #13

Lydia I think that video might just confuse you more. It should probably be two things that are usually found together if you want to avoid the DNMC votes.

09/19/2015 07:52:40 PM · #14

Ok. (Thanks!)

So... you're saying that I should photograph two things that are usually found together.

That's the entire challenge topic?

What's the "but Not the same" thing?

As long as they are two different things, that's all good?

09/19/2015 08:33:44 PM · #15

Think of it as together, but different. Or think of it as together, but not the same.

Together but different, in my mind is any old random collection of dissimilar objects.

Together but not the same, in my mind, is things that go together because they are not the same. The go together because they are more interesting together than either one is alone.

OK the battery just died in my thinking cap!

09/19/2015 08:33:44 PM · #16

Shoes and ax handles may be placed together. They are different. But they don't mean anything together.

Shoes and socks are not the same, but they make sense together.

Message edited by author 2015-09-19 21:14:02.

09/19/2015 11:10:21 PM · #17

I feel like I did in the 4th grade.

I was a better-than-average student (back then).

My teacher, Mrs Butts (who had a large one, although less than mine now) introduced syllables.|

I listened to her. She said the words. She put emphasis on different syllables.

I still didn't get it.

I could ... eventually ... actually feel and hear her frustration... trying to get me to understand.

I don't think I understood for another year.

I feel sorry for her now. It wasn't a lack in her... as she thought at the time... and I can understand now.

I just... couldn't get it.

So... here we are.

Nikon AF-S DX 18-105 f/3.5-5.6 ED VR

09/19/2015 11:29:11 PM · #18

Originally posted by Ecce_Signum:

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:
fish is good for the brain...
eat more fish Lydia :))

or, in the style of the challenge, eat more Fish and Chips Lydia ;)

or, Liver and Bacon, Cheese and Pineapple, Bangers and Mash, Bread and Butter - get the idea? though it doesn't have to be food related.

wait a minute!--cheese and pineapple?

what kind of cheese?

sfalice

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS

09/20/2015 12:11:49 AM · #19

Originally posted by pixelpig:

Originally posted by Ecce_Signum:

Originally posted by GeorgesBogaert:
fish is good for the brain...
eat more fish Lydia :))

or, in the style of the challenge, eat more Fish and Chips Lydia ;)

or, Liver and Bacon, Cheese and Pineapple, Bangers and Mash, Bread and Butter - get the idea? though it doesn't have to be food related.

wait a minute!--cheese and pineapple?

what kind of cheese?

Only conceivable answer would be cottage cheese. Any other? I don't think so, erp. :(

And Lydia, I still remember in grammar school tussling with the name of the heroine in a story:
No matter how many times I was corrected, the little girl's name came out of my mouth as "penny-lope"

jomari

Nikon D7000

09/20/2015 03:26:49 AM · #20

Ahh! Penny-lope, I remember her!

bob350

Sony Alpha 1

Sony FE 24-70mm f/2.8 GM

09/20/2015 06:45:40 AM · #21

Originally posted by Lydia:

I feel like I did in the 4th grade. ... I just... couldn't get it. So... here we are.

To a certain extent, the difficulty is with the challenge title rather than with you. I think the words that "go together" while still being "different" from each other can meet the criteria in several different abstract ways. So figuring it out requires abstracting about the abstraction.

Perhaps an easy way is to think of one concept as a unifying factor while another concept is the differentiating factor.

Here are examples I have in mind:
A. Unifying factor, B. Differentiating factor, C. Examples

A. Age, B. Gender. C. Boy and girl (both are young people, but they differ by gender), man and woman, ...

A, Relationship, B. Role, C. Husband and wife (marriage relationship), mother and father (parent relationship), teacher and student (education relationship), ...

A. People, B. Age, C. Young and old

A. Position/direction, B. Opposite, C. Right and left, up and down, back and forth ...

A. Foods commonly consumed together, B. Food item, C. Ham and cheese, beer and pretzels, cake and ice cream, salt and pepper, ...

Quite a mixture of abstract thinking, facility with categorization, vocabulary, cultural literacy, and more. Of all the postings in this thread so far, the link to the wikipedia list should be the most useful for more examples. For a successful entry, I would expect that both factors would need to be familiar from use in a language or literature or culture, and the image should be excellent photographically and emotionally.

(edited to add food examples).

Message edited by author 2015-09-20 06:51:52.