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07/18/2012 10:29:34 AM · #51 |
Originally posted by Purple_Girl:
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that when I first joined, there was always 100+ entries into each competition; now the average seems to be between 60-80. Things definitely seem more quiet round here. |
Just ran some code on the number of entries and comments, and aside from the first three months after inception of the site, this is the worst its ever been.
Message edited by author 2012-07-18 10:35:38. |
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07/18/2012 10:31:13 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by Skip:
bottom line, this place is just like an old bar. you're either comfortable with the patrons or your not. since you know the owner ain't gonna fix it up, it's up to you to make the most of it, or to move on... |
I just wish he'd clean the bathroom |
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07/18/2012 11:11:20 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by Skip:
bottom line, this place is just like an old bar. you're either comfortable with the patrons or your not. since you know the owner ain't gonna fix it up, it's up to you to make the most of it, or to move on... |
Norm!!
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07/18/2012 11:18:25 AM · #54 |
| What we need is a good forum fight. That always boosts numbers. |
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07/18/2012 11:27:05 AM · #55 |
| There hasn't been much to fight over lately. |
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07/18/2012 11:28:45 AM · #56 |
Message edited by author 2012-07-24 16:14:32.
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07/18/2012 11:31:31 AM · #57 |
Message edited by author 2012-07-24 16:14:49. |
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07/18/2012 11:37:40 AM · #58 |
Any idea how many paid renewals per year on this site? I ask because I wonder if the site owners are simply not making enough money to cover the cost of further development of this site. I have just renewed my membership which is pretty cheap really but if there are only a few hundred paid renewals a year, it may not be commercially viable for the site owners to further develop the site. Even if they do the development work themselves, they may have families and bills to pay which causes them to have to spend their time on other work - or they may be simply involved in too many other projects and this site has been put on the back burner.
Having said that, I found the site from reading the same article that Giles read about Alex Saberi and don't recall seeing the site advertised anywhere so perhaps as well as a lick of paint the site needs a bit of marketing too in an attempt to attract new blood. If there is no marketing, how are new photographers supposed to find out about the site.
Of course I may be completely off the mark here and there may be thousands of new paid renewals and loads of marketing going on - I apologise if this is the case and the site owner is simply sitting on a beach in Barbados with a large cocktail.
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07/18/2012 11:53:02 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by deeby:
Originally posted by Magnumphotography:
I very much enjoy this site. It can really drive you to think. But yes, it seems much slower now.
An over all change, could be exciting. With current tec [sic] and web designers, the possibilities are endless. But just fixing the unfinished parts would be good too.
I am still waiting, to be able to review gear. I have been here three years, with no change on reviews? I know I can link to Amazon and see reviews. But I want to see the DPC'ers input.
As insight from most users, would be fantastic information. I'm sure most would agree.
So a little frustraiting.... |
I agree.
IMO, the way to go is to open the source code to the community and let them contribute. |
spoken like a linux programmer |
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07/18/2012 11:53:51 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by deeby:
your experiment is flawed. You didn't establish a benchmark to compare your results with.
Too much talk....more action. |
Are you talking to me? |
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07/18/2012 12:09:56 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by Kelli:
There hasn't been much to fight over lately. |
You're forgetting Ubique. |
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07/18/2012 12:14:32 PM · #62 |
Actually, I don't think the problem is the website or anything on the technology side. The recent dip seems to be because of some really bad blood on the forums. I miss the forums of a couple of years ago (or even last year). I wasn't here during the heyday of DPC, so I don't know what it was like then.
But I used to be able to say what I thought, felt, imagined, whatever. If I put my foot in my mouth doing it, art would come along and make fun of it and everything was all right. However, over the last year it seems like we had a number of people who took offense at the least little thing. I found myself ignoring almost any forum where certain people were posting, and I noticed others do it as well. Even Art was flamed and backed away. We've lost a lot through this, and I haven't seen the forums recover.
I'm here for the competition, but I'm here more for the camaraderie and the community. I've tried another competition site but the community was lacking and I haven't been back in awhile. During the last month or two I log in here, and there are forum posts on the front page that haven't been posted to in over 15 hours. I don't remember that happening before. I keep going with the challenges, but it's getting less and less interesting because there just aren't as many people to talk to or things to talk about. :(
(the fights used to be more fun. Now when they happen, they're just bloody)
Message edited by author 2012-07-18 12:15:51.
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07/18/2012 12:17:04 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by Giles_uk:
Shame as its a great idea just needs a serious revamp of the code |
maybe its time for a spinoff. |
Try PWO Contests. Seems to be the next step in the evolution, but having trouble getting off the ground.
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07/18/2012 12:22:14 PM · #64 |
Members have been predicting the demise of DPC for as long as I've been here. It would freak me out since I'd only just discovered this little photography Eden. Every year there is a post about how challenges used to pull 100+ entries, and now only 80 or so. And these posts always show up, oddly enough, just around summer vacation time...
But the last 6-8 months have for sure been the most unpleasant I've experienced since I'm here. I don't want to point fingers, but the draw of this site IS the personal involvement of its members, and when you have a very negative person (who is also very active), it totally polarizes and alienates the membership. Village-burning threads used to galvanize the troops to rectify issues caused by "outsiders"; recent threads of that ilk have had us turning on each other, further aggravating the situation. Fortunately, that is an element we no longer need to worry about, but I feel that significant damage has been done to the community and its spirit, which will require the hard work of long-time, constructive members to re-establish that sense of community we all love about DPC. At the moment, EVERYONE is so quick to take things personally it's not fun to say ANYTHING.
There is also always talk about how DPC should be more like FB/MySpace/Flickr/500px/1x/fill-in-the-blank. DPC's function/purpose is different from of all those sites, and as far a I know, it is the only one of its kind. This does not mean that it couldn't use a little improvement in certain (mostly cosmetic) areas, but perhaps in this instant (and only positive) gratification era, it is becoming obsolete. I do know that as long as Langdon et al. continue to run the place, I will be here.
However, DPC is so good at what it does, that many photogs (including myself) go from hobbyists to professional, and no longer have as much time to dedicate to the site. |
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07/18/2012 01:15:34 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by paulsteven:
Any idea how many paid renewals per year on this site? I ask because I wonder if the site owners are simply not making enough money to cover the cost of further development of this site. I have just renewed my membership which is pretty cheap really but if there are only a few hundred paid renewals a year, it may not be commercially viable for the site owners to further develop the site. Even if they do the development work themselves, they may have families and bills to pay which causes them to have to spend their time on other work - or they may be simply involved in too many other projects and this site has been put on the back burner.
Having said that, I found the site from reading the same article that Giles read about Alex Saberi and don't recall seeing the site advertised anywhere so perhaps as well as a lick of paint the site needs a bit of marketing too in an attempt to attract new blood. If there is no marketing, how are new photographers supposed to find out about the site.
Of course I may be completely off the mark here and there may be thousands of new paid renewals and loads of marketing going on - I apologise if this is the case and the site owner is simply sitting on a beach in Barbados with a large cocktail. |
1219 paying members
I'm pretty sure they aren't going broke running this place. |
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07/18/2012 01:19:44 PM · #66 |
++2
(but I think the 'problem' is still very active) |
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07/18/2012 01:23:59 PM · #67 |
Originally posted by Cory:
1219 paying members
I'm pretty sure they aren't going broke running this place. |
Quite interesting that only 6-8% of the paying membership are entering and voting on challenges. That's basically the only reason to pay.
Message edited by author 2012-07-18 13:24:14. |
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07/18/2012 01:30:27 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
Originally posted by Cory:
1219 paying members
I'm pretty sure they aren't going broke running this place. |
Quite interesting that only 6-8% of the paying membership are entering and voting on challenges. That's basically the only reason to pay. |
You forgot about the portfolio benefits.
Message edited by author 2012-07-18 13:30:38. |
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07/18/2012 01:31:38 PM · #69 |
and
"Becoming a site member helps support DPChallenge, enabling us to continue to develop and expand the site. We offer our site members a number of exclusive features, and we're constantly working to expand that list. Among the benefits of site membership are:
Submit to members-only challenges.
Update your challenge scores on demand.
Browse the site ad-free.
Members-only section of the forums."
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07/18/2012 01:39:57 PM · #70 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
and
"Becoming a site member helps support DPChallenge, enabling us to continue to develop and expand the site. We offer our site members a number of exclusive features, and we're constantly working to expand that list. Among the benefits of site membership are:
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lol.
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07/18/2012 02:07:10 PM · #71 |
out
Message edited by author 2012-07-18 21:05:44. |
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07/18/2012 02:07:33 PM · #72 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by Giles_uk:
Shame as its a great idea just needs a serious revamp of the code |
maybe its time for a spinoff. |
Try PWO Contests. Seems to be the next step in the evolution, but having trouble getting off the ground. |
Just registered. |
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07/18/2012 02:15:07 PM · #73 |
Originally posted by sempermarine:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by Giles_uk:
Shame as its a great idea just needs a serious revamp of the code |
maybe its time for a spinoff. |
Try PWO Contests. Seems to be the next step in the evolution, but having trouble getting off the ground. |
Just registered. |
me too. |
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07/18/2012 02:16:45 PM · #74 |
Message edited by author 2012-07-24 16:15:19. |
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07/18/2012 02:17:11 PM · #75 |
Originally posted by SDW:
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whoops
Message edited by author 2012-07-18 14:20:09. |
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