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03/24/2004 03:55:52 PM · #51 |
| By the way, my average vote is 4.88, and I'm very happy with myself. |
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03/24/2004 04:17:00 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by brownt:
Originally posted by jonpink:
As for Loch Lomond, nice. That is my dream to live up there and play golf all day ;) |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Don't play too much golf on Loch Lomond, you'll get wet. |
Doesn't always rain in Scotland... In Dunbar at the moment, it's the official sunniest place in the UK. On the East coast of Scotland, nice and Sunny, several golf courses, you're all welcome! :-) |
Sorry had to but in here (Living in Glasgow and not far from the bonny banks)
The joke was , I believe that playing golf ON Loch Lomond (a large body of water) would get you very very wet....and drowned.
OK
Carry on bickering
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03/24/2004 06:47:28 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by lockjawdavis:
I just haven't found the time required to submit a good, thoughtful entry. I'm on the road a lot, so it may never happen. We'll see... |
Dear lockjaw, if you don't have time to do a great photo just go ahead and put in a crummy one like the rest of us. Then you can whine about how poorly it scores.
---Just Kidding!---
You presence is appreciated and you are making a contribution to the community by voting and commenting, Thanks. |
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03/24/2004 07:27:32 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
Originally posted by lockjawdavis:
I just haven't found the time required to submit a good, thoughtful entry. I'm on the road a lot, so it may never happen. We'll see... |
Dear lockjaw, if you don't have time to do a great photo just go ahead and put in a crummy one like the rest of us. Then you can whine about how poorly it scores.
---Just Kidding!---
You presence is appreciated and you are making a contribution to the community by voting and commenting, Thanks. |
Absolutely! There are many ways to enjoy this site. I don't get nearly as many entries in as I would like but I still consider all of the challenges and take a lot of my own photos. I also learn a great deal from the forums and viewing other's photos. The weeks go by so fast it is really hard to submit to all of the challenges.
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03/25/2004 01:34:14 AM · #55 |
My average vote cast is 4.54. I must be the devil. Believe it or not I give out quite a lot of high marks, I just generally give below average shots below average scores, which would be below 5, which is 4. I am of course viewing the contest with the idea that average is average for a good photograph and not a poor snapshot. The ONLY time I will feel I may be unfairly judging an image is when it has clearly been shot with a very poor camera or someone may just be lacking the proper editing software. However these details are out of my hands. It is a contest after all. And yes, I have submitted many photos that I would have given a 4 if I came across in a challenge.
Hmm. But what was this thread actually about. Oh yeah, I remember what I wanted to say now. I have recently developed a whole new outlook to photography. I am starting on an extended project where I will try to take random snapshots of things that I never got to look at enough to tell if they interest me. That way, I won't be limiting myself to the rules or even what I find interesting. I simply hold the camera out the window while I drive and randomly snap the shutter when I pass by something that may be interesting if I was wreckless enough to stare at it and compose a good image while driving. I have done some experimenting and have been intrigued by my results. As a series I think it will be quite powerful. I particularly like the candid shots of people on street corners and in doorways that I never even saw. How often do you get to look at your photos when you get home and see something entirely new. This way my mind doesn't try to compare the image with the actual scene. The camera gets what the camera gets and I am beginning to believe that the camera may have a secret agenda and eye of its own. :) |
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03/25/2004 06:53:11 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by jab119:
I just want to know when they will DQ the second submission, heck better check the exif date on the first one also to make sure he took it during the submission dates.
He admitted to cheating so something needs to be done.
Rules are Rules and they need to be inforced
James |
We're working on it. Patience, my friend! |
I can lend you my cat-o-nine-tails. It's here somewhere 
Message edited by author 2004-03-25 06:58:46.
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03/25/2004 07:04:41 AM · #57 |
I myself am not that impressed with the commenting on this challenge.I have not voted or commented yet, but this time in the portrait challenge, I had about 25 and still ended up 28th. My submission this time is getting hammered, and will not get over 3.9. The ones I vote on under 4 get the first shot at comments, and I almost always go back and do so
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03/25/2004 07:39:57 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by timj351:
...I encourage everyone to try to vote in an objective manner irregardless if a photo appeals to you or not....
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I disagree...
I want to know how my image appeals as a whole - and that includes technically (how well it's taken, composition, quality etc) AND subjectively (how much do people like the content itself).
After all purchasers don't divorce their feelings about the content/ overall appeal from their feelings about how technically clever the photographer has been...
:o)
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03/25/2004 08:03:26 AM · #59 |
Checking in with my 2 cents...
I agree that repetitive lined up shots of pencils or crayons or whaterver are as exciting as housecat photos. Yet a studio shot of something like an old fan, guitar, bike, or the like can be very interesting.
My passion is outdoor photography. It's painful to receive low scores for a shot that was taken ouside in 20 degree weather and 30 mph winds, but that's my fault, as I wasn't able to capture a compelling image.
I admit that when I vote, I tilt a bit towards awarding higher scores to images that appear to have taken a bit of effort - shots that any average photographer couldn't achieve. Sometimes I mutter, "Jeez, they didn't bother to leave their living room." We've all seen these shots.
But when a studio photo is really good, I give it the score I think it deserves.
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03/25/2004 08:54:34 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Don't play too much golf on Loch Lomond, you'll get wet. |
I mostly used to spend all my free time playing golf when I lived there.
The Loch Lomond Golf Club is particularly good, if you can get on. |
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03/25/2004 09:06:13 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by Beagleboy:
Originally posted by mk:
Originally posted by jab119:
I just want to know when they will DQ the second submission, heck better check the exif date on the first one also to make sure he took it during the submission dates.
He admitted to cheating so something needs to be done.
Rules are Rules and they need to be inforced
James |
We're working on it. Patience, my friend! |
I can lend you my cat-o-nine-tails. It's here somewhere |
You won't find it, Isabelle 'borrowed' it because Jacko had been a 'bad boy' ;) |
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03/25/2004 09:55:27 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Photography is about much more than walking around with your camera and snapping things that draw your interest. |
Originally posted by boomer:
Snapping things that draw your interest is for turtles. |
That is most certainly true. "Walking around with your camera and snapping things that draw your interest" is definitely not all there is to digital photography, it's just the best part of it. You can add "things that might fit the current challenge". Who doesn't prefer doing the turtle walk to sitting in front of a keyboard making images look different than they were when you found them interesting. |
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03/25/2004 05:12:02 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by novetan:
Personally, I hope to see more of candid shots (meaning not posed). That will demand all aspect of skills of a photograher. |
I find I'm struggling to how you can favour luck over design and then still call it skill, but photography is a many-faceted hobby, so it takes all sorts.
I used to wander around taking shots of random things that caught my eye and it is certainly fun. It is also certainly likely to produce a long line of badly light, poorly thought out or explored ideas.
Now I use this snaps as a basis to do what I'd consider more interesting, planned photography that at least I feel, gives me much better results.
Message edited by author 2004-03-25 17:13:37.
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03/25/2004 05:50:14 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by Kavey:
Originally posted by timj351:
...I encourage everyone to try to vote in an objective manner irregardless if a photo appeals to you or not....
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I disagree...
I want to know how my image appeals as a whole - and that includes technically (how well it's taken, composition, quality etc) AND subjectively (how much do people like the content itself).
After all purchasers don't divorce their feelings about the content/ overall appeal from their feelings about how technically clever the photographer has been...
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I understand that purchaser's don't divorce their feelings about the content/ overall appeal from their feelings about how technically clever the photographer has been. I said "We are playing the role as photo judges and not the role of someone who is purchasing art for their own homes." I would expect purcheser's to be both ways because the photo is also serving a decorative role in most cases. For DP Challenge, however, I would like to know how my photo does much more on it's photographic qualities than whether someone simply liked it because it was a kid or something. I would gain even more from this site if it was more like traditional photo contests where the judges are encouraged to keep objectivity in mind. Otherwise it would be too bad for the great horse photo if none of the judges personally liked horses. As I have already said I admit that I occassionally award a slightly higher score to personal preferences too because that is the side I would rather error on if anything and it is also hard to tell whether you are saying wow to a photo because it is really that great or you simply love the subject matter too. It isn't all black and white and things are still fine the way they are here. These are just my own personal preferences for learning how to be a better photographer.
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03/25/2004 06:16:28 PM · #65 |
I am very impressed with a great number of the studio shots I see in the challenge. I know I personally could not duplicate them. However, I feel that it is much more difficult to capture many non studio shots based on the timing, the surrounding conditions, lighting, etc.
The challenges are however a wonderful forum for seeing all of the variations. I am sure that studio photgraphers vote higher on studio photos and vice versa.
I feel I learn a great deal from both and look forward to participating. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Message edited by author 2004-03-25 18:17:49. |
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03/25/2004 08:57:46 PM · #66 |
| I give out a lot of 1's and 2's. If the photo is horrible and off subject they deserve a 1 or a 2. But I also give out a lot of 8's,9's, and 10's to the ones that are composed, lit, on focus, and on subject. |
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03/25/2004 09:52:25 PM · #67 |
The challenge to me is learning the technique in setting up said shot. I have learned so much about lighting and DOF and so many other things on this site it's unreal! I too sometimes get tired of the same type images over and over but then remind myself that it may be the first time they are trying that type of shot and take it from there.
Deannda |
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