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03/24/2004 08:42:12 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by jenesis:
Originally posted by jonpink:
Where the most interesting thing here is a big roundabout. ;)
Swindon |
AAAHHHHHHhhhh! If I came upon something like that I think I would just have to pull over and sit there until somebody came to rescue me... That looks like sheer madness. :) |
I would have to agree. I would drive very far out of my way to avoid that. |
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03/24/2004 08:43:10 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
Where the most interesting thing here is a big roundabout. ;)
Swindon
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Great opportunity for lots of panning in the motion blur challenge !!!
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03/24/2004 08:43:20 AM · #28 |
I just want to know when they will DQ the second submission, heck better check the exif date on the first one also to make sure he took it during the submission dates.
He admitted to cheating so something needs to be done.
Rules are Rules and they need to be inforced
James
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03/24/2004 08:43:25 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Photography is about much more than walking around with your camera and snapping things that draw your interest.
Amen brother John :)
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03/24/2004 08:45:10 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by jab119:
I just want to know when they will DQ the second submission, heck better check the exif date on the first one also to make sure he took it during the submission dates.
He admitted to cheating so something needs to be done.
Rules are Rules and they need to be inforced
James |
We're working on it. Patience, my friend! |
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03/24/2004 08:47:50 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Photography is about much more than walking around with your camera and snapping things that draw your interest. |
So true. Snapping things that draw your interest is for turtles.
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03/24/2004 08:50:02 AM · #32 |
| The original point of this thread, though side-tracked by apparent cheating, has been addressed by people holding different views on a matter that is essentially a question of taste. There is only one real solution, and it's an easy one. Vote them low if you don't like them! |
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03/24/2004 09:16:52 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
Gordon I agree, and that's part of the fun IMO, but I live in Swindon
Where the most interesting thing here is a big roundabout. ;)
Swindon
However, I am moving in 2.5 weeks (yipeeeeeeeeee)
Ps: where in Scotland did you live? |
Arent there a bunch of those one after each other? Else I think we drove around that one far too many times.
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03/24/2004 09:50:56 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by jonpink:
However, I am moving in 2.5 weeks (yipeeeeeeeeee)
Ps: where in Scotland did you live? |
Where are you moving to ? It must be better than Swindon :)
Originally in a small town called Helensburgh, on the bonnie banks of the Clyde (about 15 minutes drive from Loch Lomond/ Luss etc.)
Then for about 6 years in Glasgow |
Moving to Harpenden Heartfordshire, a nice little town that has easy and quick access into central London (which is quite important) yet very clean an full of decent citizens, and much greenery!
As for Loch Lomond, nice. That is my dream to live up there and play golf all day ;)
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03/24/2004 10:01:41 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by jonpink:
However, I am moving in 2.5 weeks (yipeeeeeeeeee)
Ps: where in Scotland did you live? |
Where are you moving to ? It must be better than Swindon :)
Originally in a small town called Helensburgh, on the bonnie banks of the Clyde (about 15 minutes drive from Loch Lomond/ Luss etc.)
Then for about 6 years in Glasgow |
Moving to Harpenden Heartfordshire, a nice little town that has easy and quick access into central London (which is quite important) yet very clean an full of decent citizens, and much greenery!
As for Loch Lomond, nice. That is my dream to live up there and play golf all day ;) |
My gran was from Helensburgh (and her name was Helen), and my sister lives in Swindon. Small world.
Don't play too much golf on Loch Lomond, you'll get wet. |
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03/24/2004 10:02:10 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by boomer:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Photography is about much more than walking around with your camera and snapping things that draw your interest. |
So true. Snapping things that draw your interest is for turtles. |
Oh my Oh my ROFL... that made me inhale my lunch... :oP
Personally I think it's easy to underestimate how hard it can be to create *good* studio shots at home - certainly not just a case of continuing to shoot until something good happens!!!
And as for only having the weekends - that's not necessarily much different for many who enter studio shots - they have jobs, kids and other commitments too.
Judge each shot on it's merit not on how it was taken or how easy you think it was to take - that surely has no relevance to the success or not of the final image?
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03/24/2004 10:13:50 AM · #37 |
I actually worked fairly hard at my parallel lines entry - trying different stringed instruments (We have 3 guitars, a cello and a viola at my home.) Then adjusting lighting, and doing many different compositions. Went up to the computer 3 times to view the shots, and not being satisfied - but learning what did and didn't work for me, went back to reshoot.
Then deciding how/if to edit, deciding on color or b/w etc.
My score was low, but I am really pleased with the final shot. I especially like the composition. I did get a comment that said it seemed "to easy". I guess the guitar shots in general just didn't fair very well. Looking back, though, there is very little I would change about the shot.
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03/24/2004 10:25:52 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by jpochard:
I actually worked fairly hard at my parallel lines entry - trying different stringed instruments (We have 3 guitars, a cello and a viola at my home.) Then adjusting lighting, and doing many different compositions. Went up to the computer 3 times to view the shots, and not being satisfied - but learning what did and didn't work for me, went back to reshoot.
Then deciding how/if to edit, deciding on color or b/w etc.
My score was low, but I am really pleased with the final shot. I especially like the composition. I did get a comment that said it seemed "to easy". I guess the guitar shots in general just didn't fair very well. Looking back, though, there is very little I would change about the shot. |
I had a hard time getting my "Parallel Lines" shot just right. I took about 12 shots of that building alone. All sorts of elements got in the way. ie. powerlines, street sign and traffic light. I like my shot too but i guess it just didn't appeal to everyone.
I did ok but with only 6 comments :( |
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03/24/2004 10:27:32 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
You apparently have no idea what it takes to create a nice still life image. |
I agree. I love studio work because I like the control I have over the environment and the opportunity to experiment. That doesn't mean that you are able to create an image that you see in your mind's eye, however. You need to have an idea of the compositional elements, the way you want the lighting to accent or complement the scene, the point of view, distance to subject, etc
My Fire challenge entry was a good example for me of trying to pull these things together. All the elements took a lot of initial thought and I tried several different compoisitions. Even the flames themselves, which are pretty difficult to predict, could be worked with in different ways - flames flared up big when initially ignited versus the simpler shapes that could be captured as the lighter fluid burned off, etc
While I agree that different environments require different photographic skills, good studio work is quite challenging and fun!
Dave
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03/24/2004 10:41:05 AM · #40 |
| I have a new found respectability for studio work. I planeed my orange submission & worked on it for the full week. When it came down to taking the photos (about 40), the were all crap. Bad lighting, perspective, arrangement, etc. I scrambled for a replacement entry, which I really like, but am not doing too well with the challenge, but would've chosen this one over all of my 40 other studio shots. I am DEFINITELY going to be practicing studio shots. |
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03/24/2004 11:19:05 AM · #41 |
| I simply love taking Studio Photographs with my 2 studio strobes |
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03/24/2004 12:48:56 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by jonpink:
As for Loch Lomond, nice. That is my dream to live up there and play golf all day ;) |
Originally posted by Koriyama:
Don't play too much golf on Loch Lomond, you'll get wet. |
Doesn't always rain in Scotland... In Dunbar at the moment, it's the official sunniest place in the UK. On the East coast of Scotland, nice and Sunny, several golf courses, you're all welcome! :-) |
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03/24/2004 02:55:01 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by coolhar:
The original point of this thread, though side-tracked by apparent cheating, has been addressed by people holding different views on a matter that is essentially a question of taste. There is only one real solution, and it's an easy one. Vote them low if you don't like them! |
Voting in this manner is certainly everone's right but I encourage everyone to try to vote in an objective manner irregardless if a photo appeals to you or not. One of the great things we can all learn from this site is the appreciation of quality photos of all types.
T
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03/24/2004 03:13:41 PM · #44 |
| Ohhhkaayyyy. So we should give a pic a high score even though we dislike it? I guess that's a piece of advice I'll have to ignore for now. |
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03/24/2004 03:20:36 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by General:
I simply love taking Studio Photographs with my 2 studio strobes |
I have lights on order, not fancy, but we'll seee what i can do. My conflict entry showed me how tought it can be, and i think the pic is a good idea but very badly implemented. It scored amazingly high i think, and got good comments. I will try to retake this once i have lights (and time) as i think the idea / composition has merit, but i lack the skills to pull it off.
my orange entry and some other pics i have done on my kitchen counter - i have a corner window so get nice diffused norhtern light with a hint of more at sunset. Easier than trying to light up the DR table, but no control to speak of.
Where are my lights? I can hardly wait. |
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03/24/2004 03:28:54 PM · #46 |
Lockjaw,
How come you don't enter any challenges?
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03/24/2004 03:36:05 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by lockjawdavis:
Ohhhkaayyyy. So we should give a pic a high score even though we dislike it? I guess that's a piece of advice I'll have to ignore for now. |
I feel that we should keep objectivity in mind when voting but I understand that your own feelings are going to come into play because it isn't easy or realistic to completely separate subjectivity from objectivity. As an example, occasionally there are some sick or disgusting images that are submitted here and often my gut reaction is to vote a 1 and move on but I think I owe it to the photographer and myself as an honest voter to look at the image objectivity to see if it still has photographic merit. However, I admit that I may knock off a point or two for the objectionable imagery because I find it distracting and so it is impossible to completely separate from the other photographic elemtents. It is always going to be a personal judgement to a certain degree but just because you don't like flowers or sunsets try not to overlook the actual photographic qualities in each photo. We are playing the role as photo judges and not the role of someone who is purchasing art for their own homes.
T
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03/24/2004 03:42:31 PM · #48 |
Tim, I understand and agree. Though however proficient the photo is, it must still appeal to me on some level to get a high mark.
SuperDave, I just haven't found the time required to submit a good, thoughtful entry. I'm on the road a lot, so it may never happen. We'll see... |
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03/24/2004 03:48:17 PM · #49 |
ah I see, well..., good luck with that and I hope to see some of your
work in here in the future!
Message edited by author 2004-03-24 15:48:49. |
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03/24/2004 03:52:19 PM · #50 |
I think people will complain about anything. It doesnt matter what it is, if your not happy with yourself you won't be happy with anything.
That said!
Get some creativity. Look at the shot closely. What is it trying to say or what is the photographer trying to convey?
We got these happy clicker voters who vote in 10 minutes and end up with voting averages below 5. Then I look at their shots and they don't even come close to being a photographer. Come on!!!
OK I am done.
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