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04/29/2002 01:35:59 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by shortredneck:
I don't understand how this could have been so confusing to anyone. I guess it takes all kind to make a world. We aren't supposed to see the ground just give the perspective of "from the ground up".
i agree with you shortie, but after reading two very long posts (this one and misinterpretation) dedicated to this same topic--obviously people see things differently. I think Drew and Langon are in a tough spot with these kinds of challenges because they don't want to put words into people's mouths and limit the artistic intent--but then again, by not doing so, I don't really thing that you can tell someone they were wrong by lying on the ground taking a picture--in their minds, this is what the challenge said. I don't really think that there should be any disqualifications on these types of shots---on something like the red challenge, or even the tabletop challenge--they are obvious, and you can make more accurate decisions on whether the exact letter of the challenge is followed. But the transition and ground up--well, especially the ground up just seems to invite abstract ideas, and how can you judge that?
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04/29/2002 01:39:19 PM · #27 |
| I never said anything about laying on the ground. I didn't, I just placed my camera on the ground. The post was a complaint about a coment on not seeing the ground and that is what I was addressing. |
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04/29/2002 01:45:13 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by shortredneck:
I never said anything about laying on the ground. I didn't, I just placed my camera on the ground. The post was a complaint about a coment on not seeing the ground and that is what I was addressing.
oh, I know! I wasn't trying to say that was something you said, just something I read maybe in the other post about someone lying on the ground--all I meant was that this was this person's interpretation! All I meant was that some people seem to think you needed to see the ground, and some thought it meant something else. sorry for the confusion!
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04/29/2002 01:49:47 PM · #29 |
| Thanks. I'm easily confused. |
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04/29/2002 02:13:22 PM · #30 |
Yeah, I gotta chime in. These challenge topics really should be springboards to creative photography. Topics like Transitions and Ground Up are just so darn open for interpretation, it seems hard to disqualify someone based on their interpretaion of such a broad topic. Just let people vote based on their ability to understand what the artist was trying to get at. Perhaps the disqualifications should be reserved for blatently offensive/pornographic/clearly way way off the topic stuff.
But then, I suppose even those classifications are open for personal interpretation.
Drew. Langdon. Have you reached for the big jug o' whiskey yet?
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04/29/2002 02:16:06 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by GordonMcGregor:
Hmm, just finished voting and quite dissappointed. Maybe I've become spoiled or just old and cynical but there didn't seem to be any great pictures this week. There are several well taken, well composed, technically well executed shots, but nothing jumped out at me. Hopefully the advertising shots will mark a return to greatness
And as for your assesment Gordon, I have to agree. While this is only my third week reviewing, I have to say this was easily the most mundane collection of images yet. **Mine Included!** There were 4 or 5 that kind of sttod out from the pack for me. But I have so far given way more 5' & 6's than on any of the previous challenges. |
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04/29/2002 02:20:56 PM · #32 |
Mundane is such a negative word... lol... I think that there are a lot more shots in this challenge that are less carefully planned and thought out. I think that some photographers may have been at a loss for a really great idea and then they just made a few quick shots and then submitted one. I don't see the patience and time spent across these challenge entries that I have seen in the past challenges...
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04/29/2002 02:33:29 PM · #33 |
I am averaging a 4, on my first submission ever... and i am HAPPY! :)
I am over the hesitation of submitting now, and the comments i have recieved point out all my flaws, and this is exactly what I want to hear... Lots of knowledge here, and some are more expressive in describing what problems they see. but yes, everyone nailed it, it was lighting that was mostly my downfall. Crappy little camera or not, it was something I could have changed... and this gives me hope that i can improve.
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04/29/2002 02:41:14 PM · #34 |
Well, I think this challenge may show how limiting the technical choices (in this case perspective) of a photographer can hurt more than limiting the interpretation aspect.
Give a topic like Transisitions and the world is wide open and photographers can go to what ever tools , meaning habitual perspective, color, etc, bag of tricks to get his meaning across.
By limiting the photgraphers bag of tricks in the perspective (ground up) I think a lot of photographers felt hamstrung. I like it :-)
It should make the photographers who felt uneasy about their shots work harder improving their ground up abilities. The fact that Gordon and others made a comment about the average quality this challenge means lots of us need to work on the ground up tools..;-)
BTW..I felt my submission was O.K.(not earthshattering) but I really did feel the perspective limit made me work harder for a decent image.
* This message has been edited by the author on 4/29/2002 2:44:27 PM. |
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04/29/2002 02:42:34 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Mundane is such a negative word... lol... I think that there are a lot more shots in this challenge that are less carefully planned and thought out. I think that some photographers may have been at a loss for a really great idea and then they just made a few quick shots and then submitted one. I don't see the patience and time spent across these challenge entries that I have seen in the past challenges...
Agreed. After posting, mundane seemed a bit harsh. How about unspectacular?
I know I tried a few different topics, none of them really worked well for me, so I just went with what I thought might be the best of the bunch. Not too sure now.
If ya like, you can check out some of the ones which didnt make the final cut. One of them I liked much better than the one I finally went with, but the subject was out of focus. Anyway, follow the link below, but be warned -
****Viewing these images will reveal which image I posted! It doesn't bother me if you know, since my image sucks anyway, but if you dont want to know, then dont follow the link below!***** (Ok, you've been warned.)
My other images which didnt get posted. |
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04/29/2002 02:45:39 PM · #36 |
| Thanks for not submitting the second photo! :') |
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04/29/2002 02:46:01 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by Moondoggie:
Yeah, I gotta chime in. These challenge topics really should be springboards to creative photography. Topics like Transitions and Ground Up are just so darn open for interpretation, it seems hard to disqualify someone based on their interpretaion of such a broad topic. Just let people vote based on their ability to understand what the artist was trying to get at. Perhaps the disqualifications should be reserved for blatently offensive/pornographic/clearly way way off the topic stuff.
But then, I suppose even those classifications are open for personal interpretation.
Drew. Langdon. Have you reached for the big jug o' whiskey yet?
Fully agree,if the voters believe off-topic they will vote accordingly - no disqalifications for perceived off-topic shots.
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04/29/2002 02:47:44 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by shortredneck:
Thanks for not submitting the second photo! :')
Ha. Ha. What she said. Funny though. :-)
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04/29/2002 03:15:07 PM · #39 |
Following this discussion, I actually found the forced perspective of looking up to be very creatively stimulating. Much more so than transitions. We often habitually shoot from our usual 'eye level' so it was interesting to be forced to get 'down' and look up. Everything looks so different from down there! Am I the only person who felt this way?
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04/29/2002 03:21:06 PM · #40 |
| I agree. I tried many different things and I think this will help my own perception of how to use different angles. |
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04/29/2002 03:39:38 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by vin rigby:
Fully agree,if the voters believe off-topic they will vote accordingly - no disqalifications for perceived off-topic shots.
I agree but I am biased. As I have one of the disqualified 8. I tried a pun. It dont go over well, but hey thats life. I have no idea at all whatto do for the coming week.
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04/29/2002 03:51:34 PM · #42 |
this site is culturally biased... that last contest clearly favored midgets......
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04/29/2002 03:55:34 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by i3ullseye:
this site is culturally biased... that last contest clearly favored midgets......
Bullseye!
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04/29/2002 04:00:16 PM · #44 |
| we prefer the term 'little people' |
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04/29/2002 04:36:49 PM · #45 |
I recieved a comment from someone who thinks my picture was digital edited! Alot of people thought my Got Toast? picture was digital edited and I could see why. But i didn't think anyone would think my submission for the Ground Up challenge was digital edited.
* This message has been edited by the author on 4/29/2002 4:37:19 PM. |
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04/29/2002 05:11:51 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by arnit:
I recieved a comment from someone who thinks my picture was digital edited! Alot of people thought my Got Toast? picture was digital edited and I could see why. But i didn't think anyone would think my submission for the Ground Up challenge was digital edited
Once a cheater always a cheater...
[ NB I'm only joking. I don't think in anyway that you 'fixed' your got toast entry...]
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04/29/2002 05:19:22 PM · #47 |
| I've had some really good comments this time yet the score doesn't add up to them. I did receive one today that has me totally lost. I don't want to say anything that would give away which entry is mine so it's hard to post about it until voting is over. It said it was a good photo and they liked it but that it wasn't a good subject for this week. It is clearly a ground up photo without a doubt so I'm not sure what they mean by that:( It's not a building or tree so maybe that's why. I guess we all have our unique style and taste:) I think the most important thing for me is to be happy with learning here and the great site provided and be happy with what I enter and just learn to not take all comments too serious:) I'll read them and then decide if they are something I feel is helpful then use the info or ignore it:) It's not about winning for me..it's about growth in a hobby I am trying to learn to be better in. |
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04/29/2002 05:22:41 PM · #48 |
| I really enjoyed this challenge and often found myself looking up instead of ahead. My son noticed and asked "what do you keep looking at?" He was sure he was missing something good. And you know what he might have been, I saw a lot of things this week that I might have missed otherwise. And I even got a few on film...no that's not right...on memory??? |
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04/29/2002 05:35:27 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam:
I've had some really good comments this time yet the score doesn't add up to them.
Wow, interesting, me too. I've got a few comments that would indicate people really liked my photo, and nothing particularly negative. Yet, my score is mediocre. I guess there are a lot of people out there who weren't impressed by my photo for one reason or another, but couldn't or didn't articulate. Oh well. I'm trying to convince myself that these good comments are a better judge than numeric score ;-) |
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04/29/2002 05:36:14 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by arnit:
I recieved a comment from someone who thinks my picture was digital edited! Alot of people thought my Got Toast? picture was digital edited and I could see why. But i didn't think anyone would think my submission for the Ground Up challenge was digital edited
Some one thought my tattoo picture was fake last week too.....But honestly I dont see anything at this point I would think is improperly edited. Ok.......maybe the one in which the artist "signed" his entry. lol
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