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08/06/2003 05:17:22 AM · #1 |
Maybe it's because of the subject (Right angles) but I find it increasingly difficult to vote ...
What system do you use when voting?
For example: a high-quality picture could be completely off-topic, then it would get a low rating, right? But what if the topic isn't so clear in the first place? Or what if the picture is on topic, has a good idea, but is blurry, bad-lit etc?
Perhaps I'm exaggerating, but right now voting is a bit frustrating to me because I'm not sure I'm judging just? |
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08/06/2003 05:25:49 AM · #2 |
Basically, this is a challenge site. If the photograph is off-topic, mark it low.
On-topic entries will get higher marks if they are executed well and interesting. Personal taste will play a great part in determining if a photo is interesting or not, or even if it represents the subject technically well.
Oh dear, back on that one again, interpretation.
Just give me a 10, and I'll be happy. |
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08/06/2003 05:36:00 AM · #3 |
Personally I start with whether or not it seems to answer the challenge. I try to be open minded but if the artist doesn't communicate the challenge to me at all I usually comment as such. This is more or less pass/fail for me.
If it meets the challenge the next "check" is does it evoke emotion? Is it striking? Interesting? How well does it meet the challenge? Is it creative? Witty? At this point I might feel that it's better than most so far and I might give it a base 6. If it's extrodinary in these aspects perhaps a base 8 or 9.
Finally the technical aspect comes into play for me. If it is technically excellent it gains points. If the technical aspects are distracting (out of focus, dull lighting, etc.) it goes downs a few points.
At the end I look over the thumbnails. If I see a pic that is in the 7's but fits more in the 8's I move it up. Usually if I'm moving a photo it's one that I evaluated early on before I had a base of reference for the challenge.
My scores are more or less on a curve relative to the challenge. I almost always give some 10's and some 1's.
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08/06/2003 05:42:17 AM · #4 |
I have this *0.6* rule that I'll elaborate further in the next paragraph.
Personally, for all pictures, my standard for judging is the same (i.e. does it have a wow factor? Are the technical aspects good? ...and so on). Now here's where the split happens between pics within topic and those that are off: if the pic is NOT within topic, the maximum I give is 6 (basically, the *raw score* x 0.6). Pics within topic do not get this 0.6 treatment. |
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08/06/2003 05:43:38 AM · #5 |
Composition = 1 to 10
Challenge = 1 to 10
Technical = 1 to 10
Creativity = 1 to 10
X2 Wow factor = 1 to 10
total/6=??
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08/06/2003 05:43:48 AM · #6 |
I vote purely on how appealing the shot is to me.
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08/06/2003 05:51:32 AM · #7 |
I find it useful to have a base score: everything gets a 6 (it used to be a 5, but i've moved it up recently, as I found I was ranging from 3 to 8 mostly, and my average vote cast was dropping to a level I didn't like). A technically fine shot that doesn't grab me gets a 6. Any amount of real interest moves that up, and shots I find really striking get 8. Obvious problems, and my present bugbears are barrel distortion and poor lighting, but also exposure problems, focus, composition, result in removal of points. Never score a photo I can't relate to the subject above 5. Then i go through the thumbs and re-organise at the top a little: and a personal thing, I always try to have a clear winner which scores higher than the others.
A 10 is reserved for photos I would happily hang on my wall; a 1 for waste of time shots.
hate giving 1's though: there are folks here with rubbish cameras, and there are kids with absolutely no experience at all ...
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08/06/2003 06:59:25 AM · #8 |
I roll special DPC scoring dice. :)
Message edited by author 2003-08-06 06:59:57.
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08/06/2003 07:06:03 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by conceptgraphics:
I roll special DPC scoring dice. :) |
you have those too! I found them rather redundant and have since switched to playing cards. |
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08/06/2003 07:10:14 AM · #10 |
| Is there anyone who flips a DPC coin? That'll be quite simple, a 1 or a fat 10. |
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08/06/2003 08:08:31 AM · #11 |
i sit on the number pad in my underwear. whichever key gets pushed, that's the vote.
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08/06/2003 08:09:53 AM · #12 |
Truth be told, here's how I vote...
Every shot begins at 5 (or 4, depending on my mood that week)
I add or subtract 0 to 3 points for composition and "Wow"
I add or subtract 0 to 3 points for 'meeting the challenge'
11's are lowered to 10, 0 and lower is raised to 1
That said I've very rarely seen anything under a 3 on this site. I've also very rarely seen an 11, but there have been a few. An excellent shot that has no discernible connection to the challenge will get a 5 from me. That said, I almost always give at least a 'benefit of the doubt on the challenge and I allow (and will award extra points) for unique interpretations of the challenge...
Oh, almost forgot... I then subtract 1 point if there is a cat in the photo... I hate cats... I have given a 10 to a cat photo, but only because it had an 11 after first 2 steps.
Edit : There are of course, exceptions to the rule about cats :)
Message edited by author 2003-08-06 08:12:46.
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08/06/2003 08:18:51 AM · #13 |
1-9 on challenge interpretation (closer to obvious = higher of course).
+1 if it's in focus.
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08/06/2003 08:53:23 AM · #14 |
I use my mouse, dragging the pointer to a number between 1 and 10 and then "left click".
Sometimes, I even look at the photo before I do that.
:-)
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08/06/2003 09:00:30 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by myqyl:
Oh, almost forgot... I then subtract 1 point if there is a cat in the photo... I hate cats... I have given a 10 to a cat photo, but only because it had an 11 after first 2 steps.
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08/06/2003 06:08:12 PM · #16 |
I think my way is pretty cool and addresses the "too many pictures of the same thing" problem (Like all the flower and bug macro's from "In the graden")
For the right-angle challenge, I previewed the photos, then I created sub-categories and sorted the photo's based on what I saw. For the right-angle challenge sub-categories were as follows:
Abstracts, Buildings, Doors and Windows, Clocks, Steps, Grates and Bricks, Crosses, People, Tool Macros, Decks and Fences, and the inevitable "Other" Category.
I isolated each category with a 1 vote so they could be evaluated as a group. I was able to sort them as good, better, best by voting them a 6, 7, or 8.
The best from each category was given an 8 vote, then I chose the winners from that lot. I gave first place a 10, and second place a 9.
The 6 & 7 votes were further sorted into their final vote rank (1-7) and comments were made.
Crazy, I know!
Message edited by author 2003-08-06 18:09:48. |
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08/06/2003 06:21:06 PM · #17 |
If it is off topic it gets a 1
If i open it up and it makes me say WOW, it gets a 10
All others start at 5 and get +\- points depending on composition, color, focus, technical points & whether I like the shot or not
Any photos with snakes in them are automatically deleted from the DPC servers with my ACME 2000 Snake Incinerator Device.
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08/06/2003 06:30:30 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by rickhd13:
If it is off topic it gets a 1 |
i used to do the same thing - now i just skip the entries that don't pertain to the challenge because i assume that they were submitted by mistake... |
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08/06/2003 06:38:11 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by conceptgraphics:
I roll special DPC scoring dice. :) |
Where can I get one? =) |
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08/06/2003 06:44:52 PM · #20 |
I slam the photo as hard as I can, then rexamine it. If it's still there, having withstood the impact, I give it a 6 or a 7, depending on technical merit only. For an 8, it has to be volatile.
I reserve 9s for one that exhilerates, stimulates awareness and kindles resentment against evil.
10s go to those which comply with the (above) criteria for 9s but also commote me sufficiently to induce an irresistable desire to create.
I do NOT mark down photos which APPEAR to be off-topic. I believe that challenge topicality is there to spur creativity, not to curb it. I am interested in the merits and quality of images, not in catagorical arguments.
Message edited by author 2003-08-06 18:45:49.
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08/06/2003 06:47:03 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I do NOT mark down photos which APPEAR to be off-topic. I believe that challenge topicality is there to spur creativity, not to curb it. I am interested in the merits and quality of images, not in catagorical arguments. |
Ah but once again begins the age old argument here...
WHY HAVE A CHALLENGE TOPIC IF YOU DON"T HAVE TO STICK TO THE CHALLENGE TO GET A GOOD SCORE
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08/06/2003 06:50:52 PM · #22 |
You ,the people, don't even know how to elect president,so I guess ,I have to file complaint at the Supreme Court about my low scores today!
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08/06/2003 06:50:54 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by antonio:
Originally posted by conceptgraphics:
I roll special DPC scoring dice. :) |
Where can I get one? =) |
//www.doordice.com/GameAids/ProductDetails.cfm?Product_UID=OBKBG4PL
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08/06/2003 06:56:37 PM · #24 |
I give 10 to any exceptional quality photo regardless of subject or challenge theme!
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08/06/2003 09:14:33 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by rickhd13:
Originally posted by zeuszen:
I do NOT mark down photos which APPEAR to be off-topic. I believe that challenge topicality is there to spur creativity, not to curb it. I am interested in the merits and quality of images, not in catagorical arguments. |
Ah but once again begins the age old argument here...
WHY HAVE A CHALLENGE TOPIC IF YOU DON"T HAVE TO STICK TO THE CHALLENGE TO GET A GOOD SCORE |
If you read my post again, more slowly perhaps, you may find the issue you raise addressed. |
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