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07/28/2006 12:51:58 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by Jimmie:
Originally posted by amber:
Surely rotating is bad? Cheating?  |
Nawwww....'cause often we turn the camera to get a view... then have to rotate it to get the balance. And many do not look at the horizon... so it has to be set straight. |
No..no.no...must get it right in camera to be Pure;) |
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07/28/2006 12:52:43 AM · #27 |
forget all that. But, I'll give $5 to the first person who can get me a picture of a left-handed lesbian albino eskimo midget (hopefully someone will know the song, so this reference isn't completely lost).
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07/28/2006 12:53:08 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by pidge:
Forgive me. I'm confused.
God and nature provided for red eye? |
lol.... welllllll, in a way... nature... the first flash causes blood to rush into the eye......
so, yeah... I guess to be technical... |
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07/28/2006 12:53:59 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by cryingdragon:
forget all that. But, I'll give $5 to the first person who can get me a picture of a left-handed lesbian albino eskimo midget (hopefully someone will know the song, so this reference isn't completely lost). |
no way. nobody knows the Dead Milkmen
I almost bought a bitchin Camaro in the 80s just so i could play it while driving. |
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07/28/2006 12:54:26 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by cryingdragon:
forget all that. But, I'll give $5 to the first person who can get me a picture of a left-handed lesbian albino eskimo midget (hopefully someone will know the song, so this reference isn't completely lost). |
I do not belive lesbians exist... I want to see pics as proof.... |
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07/28/2006 12:55:04 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by cryingdragon:
forget all that. But, I'll give $5 to the first person who can get me a picture of a left-handed lesbian albino eskimo midget (hopefully someone will know the song, so this reference isn't completely lost). |
Sorry, her lawyer made me destroy all the photos after the breakup :-(
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07/28/2006 12:56:03 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by amber:
My four old niece takes pictures with her Fisher Price camera and does no post processing..is she a decent photographer? |
How is her composition? She could be a genius.... |
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07/28/2006 12:56:06 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Pedro:
Originally posted by cryingdragon:
forget all that. But, I'll give $5 to the first person who can get me a picture of a left-handed lesbian albino eskimo midget (hopefully someone will know the song, so this reference isn't completely lost). |
no way. nobody knows the Dead Milkmen
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I study criminology -I've never heard of a serial killer that only targets Milkmen! |
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07/28/2006 12:56:57 AM · #34 |
Originally posted by Pedro:
Originally posted by cryingdragon:
forget all that. But, I'll give $5 to the first person who can get me a picture of a left-handed lesbian albino eskimo midget (hopefully someone will know the song, so this reference isn't completely lost). |
no way. nobody knows the Dead Milkmen
I almost bought a bitchin Camaro in the 80s just so i could play it while driving. |
Remind me to tell stories of Laurie at a few Dead Milkmen concerts back in the 80s. At least the ones I remember. ;)
Message edited by author 2006-07-28 00:57:05.
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07/28/2006 12:57:08 AM · #35 |
Originally posted by Pedro:
Originally posted by cryingdragon:
forget all that. But, I'll give $5 to the first person who can get me a picture of a left-handed lesbian albino eskimo midget (hopefully someone will know the song, so this reference isn't completely lost). |
no way. nobody knows the Dead Milkmen
I almost bought a bitchin Camaro in the 80s just so i could play it while driving. |
Why howdy Petey.
Dead Milkmen - Punk Rock Girl
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07/28/2006 12:57:09 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by Jimmie:
Agreed...decent photographers use it... clever and original and skilled photographers do not... |
darn maybe one day I can be original AND skilled..maybe one day
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07/28/2006 12:57:20 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by Jimmie:
Originally posted by amber:
My four old niece takes pictures with her Fisher Price camera and does no post processing..is she a decent photographer? |
How is her composition? She could be a genius.... |
She's my niece so it goes without saying:)) |
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07/28/2006 12:57:45 AM · #38 |
Originally posted by Jimmie:
I do not belive lesbians exist... I want to see pics as proof.... |
//www.dpchallenge.com/portfolio.php?USER_ID=5885&collection_id=16219
She's bi...but I'm not risking ANOTHER TOS violation :-P
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07/28/2006 01:00:10 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by Pedro:
I get your point Jimmie, and I understand where you're going with the thread, but if you think your cam isn't helping you out with some internal processing, you're deluding yourself. at least some post-processing of digital images in inescapable. without it it's just a bunch of Is and Os.
there's a difference between processing and manipulating for certain, but extreme purism is a fallacy.
well...that's my opinion, anyway. but what do i know?
P |
That is where I depart from you... I do believe the new cameras are going great guns when it comes to coloUr and detail... and they are getting closer and closer to what the eye actually sees. The camera may process... but the process is geared to getting the actual image, sans manipulation. Every camera manufacturere boasts "Lifelike coloUrs! True to life images." So tech. in the modern way, is actually catching up to the eye, in the human/natural way. |
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07/28/2006 01:01:01 AM · #40 |
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07/28/2006 01:01:05 AM · #41 |
| I bet black and white is out then, huh? |
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07/28/2006 01:01:37 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by amber:
Originally posted by Jimmie:
Originally posted by amber:
My four old niece takes pictures with her Fisher Price camera and does no post processing..is she a decent photographer? |
How is her composition? She could be a genius.... |
She's my niece so it goes without saying:)) |
Touche!!!! |
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07/28/2006 01:03:56 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Jimmie:
That is where I depart from you... I do believe the new cameras are going great guns when it comes to coloUr and detail... and they are getting closer and closer to what the eye actually sees. The camera may process... but the process is geared to getting the actual image, sans manipulation. Every camera manufacturere boasts "Lifelike coloUrs! True to life images." So tech. in the modern way, is actually catching up to the eye, in the human/natural way. |
First off, I appreciate the superfluous U in the word colour.
Secondly...how is it more natural if my camera does it versus doing it on my computer? a little processor inside or a big processor outside. I dun get it. |
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07/28/2006 01:05:09 AM · #44 |
Originally posted by thegrandwazoo:
Unless you are shooting ferrotypes I don't want to even see you post. I won't read it, nope, no way it's not gonna happen.
LaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLa
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See, that's where you drift from the goal... tech. has always worked towards capturing the image as seen by the eye. Painters capture the image as seen by the mind. Tech. is ok up to the point of replicating the original.... once you cross the line and destroy the original it is no longer photography... graphic art.... |
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07/28/2006 01:06:31 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by Pedro:
First off, I appreciate the superfluous U in the word colour.
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Flippin' Canadians
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07/28/2006 01:09:17 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by mk:
I bet black and white is out then, huh? |
What's black and white? I only shoot in color. ;)
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07/28/2006 01:09:19 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by dudephil:
Originally posted by Jimmie:
Originally posted by amber:
Surely rotating is bad? Cheating? |
Nawwww....'cause often we turn the camera to get a view... then have to rotate it to get the balance. And many do not look at the horizon... so it has to be set straight. |
But how is that "looking, and thinking and working out the problems"? |
because some people are just bad at leveling the horizon... rotating and cropping can help that. Same as scissors and a straight edge can cut the printed pic... I am talking about over-saturating in post processing, changing reds to oranges, adding "shimmer"layering, cloning sections...... turning, rotating, cropping... all that can be done in the real world. It is the basic, start-from-scratch image I am talking about. |
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07/28/2006 01:09:47 AM · #48 |
Dooood!! I found the perfect cam for you!
The way nature intended!
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07/28/2006 01:10:59 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by pidge:
Originally posted by Pedro:
First off, I appreciate the superfluous U in the word colour.
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Flippin' Canadians |
I am from Heartland USA... I added the "U" because I have some great Brit friends who use it... an in joke from way back in the day... Ya wouldn't get it if I explained.... |
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07/28/2006 01:11:27 AM · #50 |
I have been reading a bunch of stuff on Ken Rockwell's site lately and here is something he says about photo manipulation...mostly refers to filters on the lens but references to Ansel Adams and post processing.
"The more you learn about photography the more you'll also learn that artificial filters and manipulation are required to make a natural looking image. Ansel Adams realized that human perception and the photographic processes are quite different. Therefore one needs to use a lot of filtration, manipulation and burning and dodging to compensate for the human eye and brain's image processing to create an image on paper that looks natural. (You can read this in his books.) This is why most snapshots don't look like the original scene. Artificial processes and image manipulation are needed to make a photograph look natural." |
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