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07/28/2006 01:32:15 AM · #76
Originally posted by dudephil:

Here's a hot lesbian!


I have a friend in Japan... we started this "nfybeurwbfd" random keystrokes... just nonsense... it means, "Laughing so hard I cannot type"..
That lesbian pic.... nf8fu8o8hw983hr7ehgf3r8whiu
07/28/2006 01:33:40 AM · #77
Originally posted by kyebosh:

Your Human eyes see the world one way. Other creatures do not.

For example: a dog only sees in black and white. Are you saying that black and white is still out?


yes... unless you are a dog... then I say, "roof, rooofff, rouff..."
(loosely translated--- go for it)
07/28/2006 01:34:47 AM · #78
Originally posted by mk:


I didn't realize your mind had a radius that reached out of the gutter...


Hey, this pic really works for me... thanks mk

07/28/2006 01:35:40 AM · #79
I do what I can. :)
07/28/2006 01:36:21 AM · #80
how do you know what aperture, shutter, ISO, etc..to make the image *exactly* as you see it??...changing a little bit of one of those things produces an entirely different image..and shooting in automatic the camera chooses for you..
07/28/2006 01:37:03 AM · #81
Originally posted by awpollard:

Originally posted by Jimmie:

Originally posted by awpollard:

It's my long lost bud Jim Loy... Whatz up dude? It's been ages since I have been to usefilm... Good seeing ya... Do you bring that same flair with ya?

Andy


ANDY!!!!!!!!!! Crimenently!!!!!!!! How ya been?????

Awww, just thought I would stirr up a bit of muck tonight. Been here only a few weeks. How the hell ya been????????


I am moderately neato... Dude you will kick arse here with that style ya gotz. Keep em guessin' though... :)


You still have one of my fave pics ever... that mirror adjusting thingy... great stuff!!!
07/28/2006 01:37:35 AM · #82
Originally posted by Jimmie:

Originally posted by kyebosh:

Your Human eyes see the world one way. Other creatures do not.

For example: a dog only sees in black and white. Are you saying that black and white is still out?


yes... unless you are a dog... then I say, "roof, rooofff, rouff..."
(loosely translated--- go for it)


So does that include humans that are color blind and those who wear glasses? They don't see the world as um well as you see it, have they been shunned?

:-)
07/28/2006 01:38:20 AM · #83
ok how about we talk about dynamic range, right now it's impossible for a camera to capture what your eyes can see. So any capture isn't doing nature justice. So what's the point of clicking the shutter then?
07/28/2006 01:38:41 AM · #84
*gasp* I've been shunned ...
07/28/2006 01:42:33 AM · #85
Originally posted by Brielle:

Interesting thread....

Even when shooting with film, especially in black and white, there is much that can be done in post processing (the manner in which the film is developed). Photography is in the eye, and what YOU see when a photo is taken. Its seeing eyond the mundane. Just my opinion.


But my point is... seeing beyond the mundane is graphic art... what the photographer strives to do is see the mundane and capture it in a new or fresh format/angle... and your opinion is great... stick by it. I just think we, as a collective gropu, need to try and make the mundane fresh... without all the post processing manipulation. P.T Selbeit ( a magician) in the 1930's said, "Every ten years every magician should reveal every secret to every trick. This will force the next generation to come up with original ideas." P.T. was a wise man. I think the same should be applied to photography... we need to be forced and pushed to become more original... not just rely on post-processing.
That's just my opinion.
Jim
07/28/2006 01:45:37 AM · #86
Originally posted by Jimmie:


But my point is... seeing beyond the mundane is graphic art... what the photographer strives to do is see the mundane and capture it in a new or fresh format/angle... and your opinion is great... stick by it. I just think we, as a collective gropu, need to try and make the mundane fresh... without all the post processing manipulation. P.T Selbeit ( a magician) in the 1930's said, "Every ten years every magician should reveal every secret to every trick. This will force the next generation to come up with original ideas." P.T. was a wise man. I think the same should be applied to photography... we need to be forced and pushed to become more original... not just rely on post-processing.
That's just my opinion.
Jim

Good point. Some of us beginners though, use post processing to help learn how to better their photography in the first place. Least, I do. :o) In the post processing, I make note of what I've done to improve my image, and note paralells between what I am doing after the fact, and what I could have done when shooting the image.
07/28/2006 01:48:02 AM · #87
Originally posted by Jimmie:



But my point is... seeing beyond the mundane is graphic art... what the photographer strives to do is see the mundane and capture it in a new or fresh format/angle... and your opinion is great... stick by it. I just think we, as a collective gropu, need to try and make the mundane fresh... without all the post processing manipulation. P.T Selbeit ( a magician) in the 1930's said, "Every ten years every magician should reveal every secret to every trick. This will force the next generation to come up with original ideas." P.T. was a wise man. I think the same should be applied to photography... we need to be forced and pushed to become more original... not just rely on post-processing.
That's just my opinion.
Jim


but this wasn't your point at the beginning of the thread. your opinion way back then was that all post-processing is evil. different arguments entirely.
07/28/2006 01:49:19 AM · #88
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

*gasp* I've been shunned ...


Yeah sorry to be the one to tell you bro.

If it's any consolation I have a problem with my eye's ... I can't see going to work tomorrow.

:-P

Message edited by author 2006-07-28 01:51:04.
07/28/2006 01:49:22 AM · #89
Jimmie, I'm not dissing you by any means, to each his own vision. But, I challenge anyone to produce images from any of the great photography masters that recieved absolutely no manipulation (digital or otherwise).

FWIW, don't look into the days of B&W photography... film choices, paper choices, exposure times and processing times and tempatures all produce greatly different results. Ditto for color film...

This whole "purist" movement is more of a digital-age phenom.
07/28/2006 01:58:07 AM · #90
We are all beginners. No matter how long we have been at it. Here is the truth as seen by Jimmie: "Shoot what you like. Shoot what you love. Don't try to impress or show off... just shoot what is natural to you. Since we are all individuals and we all have a story to tell... your work will come through. Be true to yourself. Present what you see and what pleases you... The critics be damned..."

Just a thought. And I am not afraid to show some of my work. So here, if ya care to look.

//spaces.msn.com/members/illbyjil/

Just some stuff that I shoot 'cause I like it.

Message edited by author 2006-07-28 02:22:43.
07/28/2006 02:00:39 AM · #91
I see black and white images in there =-O
07/28/2006 02:00:51 AM · #92
Originally posted by fotomann_forever:

Jimmie, I'm not dissing you by any means, to each his own vision. But, I challenge anyone to produce images from any of the great photography masters that recieved absolutely no manipulation (digital or otherwise).

FWIW, don't look into the days of B&W photography... film choices, paper choices, exposure times and processing times and tempatures all produce greatly different results. Ditto for color film...

This whole "purist" movement is more of a digital-age phenom.


Yes... I agree... The digital thingy takes it beyond the camera. I have a shot I call "The Hand of Jimmie" (I'll send it to ya if ya send me your email) And my point is... I did it by outsmarting the camera... not taking the image and manipulating later. The "purist" movement goes back to out-thinking the camera... not just taking the photo and twisting and turning it. If that makes any sense.
07/28/2006 02:03:38 AM · #93
but this wasn't your point at the beginning of the thread. your opinion way back then was that all post-processing is evil. different arguments entirely. [/quote]

It is still my point... changing the photo once it is out of the camera... in camera, out-smarting camera... ok, but once it is out of the camera... and we slash and burn in a way what would make the Myans proud.... that is what I do not cotton to.

Message edited by author 2006-07-28 02:04:08.
07/28/2006 02:07:05 AM · #94
Originally posted by Jimmie:

but this wasn't your point at the beginning of the thread.

LOL - I knew it was going to turn into something like this when I first read your post, and that is why I hesitated about posting the names here for all to see (not fair to the photographer). Got my PM?
07/28/2006 02:07:33 AM · #95
I was just thinking too....

Any filters I use in Photoshop, emulate actual camera filters. If I had the money, I could well take the photos just the way I want. Why should people with the money to spend on all of the accessories have an advantage over anyone else who loves photography just as much?
07/28/2006 02:07:47 AM · #96
Originally posted by kyebosh:

ok how about we talk about dynamic range, right now it's impossible for a camera to capture what your eyes can see. So any capture isn't doing nature justice. So what's the point of clicking the shutter then?


get a better camera....
07/28/2006 02:07:51 AM · #97
I manipulate...I admit it.

But I also change, adapt, encourage, excel, and embrace.
07/28/2006 02:09:55 AM · #98
Originally posted by Cutter:

I manipulate...I admit it.

But I also change, adapt, encourage, excel, and embrace.


Not me... I shoot and post... and if they don't like it... well, same as my wife...

I'll get over it.
07/28/2006 02:11:59 AM · #99
Originally posted by Brielle:

I was just thinking too....

Any filters I use in Photoshop, emulate actual camera filters. If I had the money, I could well take the photos just the way I want. Why should people with the money to spend on all of the accessories have an advantage over anyone else who loves photography just as much?


YIKES!!!! I don't have anything but what came wiff the camera... maybe, if ya take a thought, and bend a bit and balance the background...
ya don't need all of that stuff... show us what ya can do straight from the source. Give me you view from the camera.
07/28/2006 02:12:10 AM · #100
Originally posted by Jimmie:


Just a thought. And I am not afraid to show some of my work. So here, if ya care to look.

//spaces.msn.com/members/illbyjil/

Just some stuff that I shoot 'cause I like it.


Some nice stuff in there...
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