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dsidwell


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Challenge: Primary Colors (Classic Editing)
Collection: Miscellaneous
Camera: Sony DSC-F707
Location: River Heights, UT USA
Date: May 11, 2003
Aperture: f 8.0
ISO: 100
Shutter: 1/40
Galleries: Nature, Animals
Date Uploaded: May 10, 2003

I tried many times to take them flying, but the wind was too strong.

Statistics
Place: 3 out of 99
Avg (all users): 7.1040
Avg (commenters): 8.6400
Avg (participants): 6.8904
Avg (non-participants): 7.4038
Views since voting: 22421
Votes: 125
Comments: 61
Favorites: 54 (view)


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06/25/2005 09:25:41 PM
Love it! Thanks for taking this and sharing it with all of us. Yes, after a few milli-seconds, they are obviously fake, but the initial 'wham!' is still great, regardless.
06/05/2004 07:24:57 PM
WOW...
12/09/2003 11:30:49 PM
Absolutely Beautiful!
12/09/2003 06:02:06 PM
Like the signature in my profile quotes "There are no rules for good photographs, just good photographs" - Ansel Adams.

And this, is a great photograph. Whether the elements are real or not, the feeling it invokes most certainly is.
05/25/2003 11:23:08 AM
David, this is a great shot. And for the challenge it was almost too perfect.

For what it's worth, I never had a problem with it being a staged shot. This is just not a scene that happens in nature, but it can be created in the mind of the photographer! Congrats!
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05/24/2003 03:28:28 PM
Originally posted by paganini:

I am simply questioning the integrity of a shot that is nature-like. I mean, most of the people who voted thought it was real probably, had they know it wasn't, the results would be much different. Then there is that ethics question of shooting nature photographs and present it as a nature photograph even though it's fake. How would someone like it if National Geographic prints out a photograph of a snow leopard (very difficult to find) and it was simply a cut and paste from a previous photograph? People would be pissed. It's just ethics. If these were three REAL butterflies with increased saturation, that's one thing.


actually, i thought the butterflies were real and the grass is fake.
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05/21/2003 10:40:13 PM
Congrats on placing! You did a great job composing the shot. Good focus, nice color saturation and you captured the spirit of the contest well.
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05/21/2003 06:03:34 PM
Thanks David. Sorry this has caused soo much controversy :) when I made the comment (and I probably should've made it during the challenge but didn't have the time) it was referring to my initial reaction at the image which was "Wow, what a good nature shot"... then realized it wasn't nature shot but presented this way. That's my gripe, it wasn't personal but probably should've left the comment during the voting instead of after.


Originally posted by dsidwell:

Actually, I don't think Paganini's thoughts were "sour grapes" at all. In his defense, he has great reason to be pleased with his work on the site, and I encourage you to explore his good work. I just think he disagrees in theory with this type or style of photography.
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05/21/2003 01:21:50 PM
By the way, that is NOT grass, it is leaves of Lily of the Valley.
05/21/2003 12:42:34 PM
Actually, I don't think Paganini's thoughts were "sour grapes" at all. In his defense, he has great reason to be pleased with his work on the site, and I encourage you to explore his good work. I just think he disagrees in theory with this type or style of photography.
05/21/2003 10:55:14 AM
I really liked this as an entry for this challenge.

I didn't even think the grass was real!
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05/21/2003 09:13:32 AM
people seem to get their underwear all bunched up over stupid things. This is a beautiful staged shot, fit the challenge well and is well deserving of the recognition you received. Congrats! I look forward to seeing your future work in whatever form it takes.
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05/21/2003 08:28:57 AM
An awful lot of sour grapes going on here. How unfortunate, that it should spoil the celebration of an excellent and deserving photograph. Where do these people get off? Where in the challenge does it say make this a "real" shot? Was this challenge about colour or reality?

Besides, anyone who actually thought these butterflies were real needs to take a serious look at their own grip on reality! (Or at the very least, need to take a bit more time LOOKING at the images)

Well done, David! A very well deserved ribbon.

Message edited by author 2003-05-21 08:30:07.
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05/21/2003 05:48:53 AM
I liked this shot a lot - though I don't think it's a 'great' photo, it was just a little too clean for my liking. I don't see that it's presented as a nature photograph - my first impression was how the hell did you get three butterflies to stay still for so long, then i thought they must be dead, and then i thought that they were obviously not real butterflies - that thought process took about 2 seconds.

Paganini - would you have been more or less annoyed had these been dead butterflies?

Ed
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05/20/2003 07:01:40 PM
I am simply questioning the integrity of a shot that is nature-like. I mean, most of the people who voted thought it was real probably, had they know it wasn't, the results would be much different. Then there is that ethics question of shooting nature photographs and present it as a nature photograph even though it's fake. How would someone like it if National Geographic prints out a photograph of a snow leopard (very difficult to find) and it was simply a cut and paste from a previous photograph? People would be pissed. It's just ethics. If these were three REAL butterflies with increased saturation, that's one thing.
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05/20/2003 11:37:07 AM
Originally posted by paganini:

I knew these were fake butterfly, hence the 2 vote, you can tell by looking at the perfect colors of the butterfly wings, which doesn't happen in nature, also the edges of the wings, looks like it's CUT from paper.

We already have what, a ton of photos with hue adjustments and shifted colors FOR NATURE shots (which i consider blasphemous), but this one is worse. It's just like spot editing an image by inserting elements that weren't there before. I don't care for other shots, but for nature shots I'd expect real photographs, not fake ones.

This wasn't a "Nature" challenge, it was a COLOR challenge. I see it as a "real photograph" of a variety of objects in the colors specified...
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05/20/2003 11:20:02 AM
I knew these were fake butterfly, hence the 2 vote, you can tell by looking at the perfect colors of the butterfly wings, which doesn't happen in nature, also the edges of the wings, looks like it's CUT from paper.

We already have what, a ton of photos with hue adjustments and shifted colors FOR NATURE shots (which i consider blasphemous), but this one is worse. It's just like spot editing an image by inserting elements that weren't there before. I don't care for other shots, but for nature shots I'd expect real photographs, not fake ones.

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05/20/2003 09:11:06 AM
A very nice shot, but I bet had you disclosed they were fake people would have judged you accordingly.
Fake butterflies don't fly; you implied that you attempted to get them flying and then state that you were simply mysterious with the execution of the photo.
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05/20/2003 03:15:43 AM
Another ribbon for your collection David? Keep up the good work!
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05/19/2003 07:39:43 PM
David,
Congratulations! I'm sorry I didn't have time to vote this week - look what I've missed! I love the composition of this shot - I'm sure you worked to get the grass just right and everything. Colors are great and focus is perfect. A 10 in my book.
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05/19/2003 10:46:26 AM
David, congratulations! I guess the good use of "fake" comes with being in theatre?
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05/19/2003 09:51:13 AM
Congrats on another ribbon! Very creative approach to the challenge... very vivid colors. I especially like the composition of your shot.
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05/19/2003 08:48:26 AM
Congrats, one of my 10s from the week. :)
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05/19/2003 07:47:28 AM
boy im almost sad you shared that these aren't real butterflies. this was by far the coolest picture in the challenge!
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05/19/2003 03:48:57 AM
wow :)
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05/19/2003 01:24:03 AM
I really like this shot. This was my favorite. I love the colors and the fact that they are real. Wow!! Congrats!

oops, I guess if I read the comments I would see that they are fake.

Message edited by author 2003-05-19 01:27:19.
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05/19/2003 01:07:18 AM
Great photo, good colours. Congrats on yet another ribbon. Keep up the great work.
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05/19/2003 12:50:19 AM
Congrats on the ribbon :) excellent idea and great execution as well :)
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05/19/2003 12:16:55 AM
Great job this is a great pic. So how did you get the 3 perfect colors on each butterfly!?
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05/19/2003 12:16:30 AM
These are just some fake butterflies I got at the craft store; sorry the technique is not very mysterious! Thanks all!
05/19/2003 12:15:35 AM
These are just some fake butterflies I got at the craft store; sorry the technique is not very mysterious!
05/19/2003 12:10:35 AM
Very creative shot. Congratulations.
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05/19/2003 12:04:22 AM
Excellent work as always, David. I'd rather them against the leaves than flying - not real?
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
05/18/2003 11:48:52 PM
What a beautiful job ! Surreal and artsie. Nice comp and lighting A wonderful fantasy.
05/18/2003 11:37:58 PM
The colors in this are so surreal it is awesome. And i love the pattern the grass makes!
05/18/2003 11:26:54 PM
Are they real? This a great photo, colors are so amazing.
05/18/2003 10:27:24 PM
I am assuming that these are cut out butterflies or something. Would be interested in knowing how this was done. The color is beautiful. Really stands out nicely on the green background. Focus and clarity are good, and I like how you have this setup. Nice job. ~Heather~
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05/18/2003 11:22:22 AM
Superb colours, great idea and composition.
Would like to see the yellow butterfly sharper so it really pops out at you but that's a minor quibble. Great shot, well done.
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05/17/2003 08:01:43 AM
really cool...definently a 10
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05/16/2003 02:48:32 PM
wonderful idea, beautifully captured
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05/16/2003 04:22:25 AM
Excellent color combinations, its very appealing to the eyes.
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05/15/2003 10:23:34 PM
Fantasy is right. Try to get three real ones to hold still long enough for such a great shot! (C: Great colors and DOF. I love them within the green plants, adds alot of contrast and interest to the shot
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05/15/2003 07:05:37 PM
Nice idea. I like the composition. There is something in the lower left that is bothering me. A touch too dark, but good shot overall.
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05/15/2003 06:12:21 PM
Nice DOF and colors.
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05/15/2003 11:35:56 AM
How DID you do this?? However you did it (are the butterflies fake?), it's a very creative concept and a terrific photo! I gave it a 10 -- hope it wins a ribbon!
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05/15/2003 11:35:21 AM
Great use of color - solitary colors here work extremely well among the repetitious greens. I would have actually put the blue or red closest, since their colors are more striking and exciting. Great work here either way. 8
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05/15/2003 06:10:47 AM
What a wonderful picture. I wish that I took it. It is vivid, expressive, and fun. It is almost unreal. Are the butterflies real? Is it Photoshop? Wonderful work, regardless. 10 Morgan
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05/14/2003 11:14:07 PM
Neat. Has a surreal effect. Focus could be a tad sharper on the yellow butterfly.
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05/14/2003 05:15:08 PM
What a great shot! I'm assuming those are either not real or part of a collection. - 10
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05/13/2003 03:17:22 PM
Saturation may be a little high, but I love the feel of this shot. The composition and simplicity really make for a pleasing viewing experience. 10 -danny
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05/13/2003 02:09:55 PM
very nice composition... the color saturation could be just a bit heavy, but excellent work :) - setzler
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05/13/2003 05:11:39 AM
Excellent color and composition!! good work.
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05/13/2003 12:09:30 AM
Wow, this is amazing. If it's legal I think this one should win, hands-down.. and you have to tell me/us how you did it. :) (please!) 10!!!!!
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05/12/2003 06:05:34 PM
Wow! what a wonderfull set up. The whole picture flows very nicely. Very interesting and very bright. Good luck. Jacko. 9
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05/12/2003 05:14:28 PM
Very nice color and sharpness. On my monitor the colors appear dead on! Nicely compose as well. (Colorful Danaus Plexippus)

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05/12/2003 02:56:35 PM
Think this is a winner .... well done
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05/12/2003 02:47:16 PM
Very pretty..reall stunning.
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05/12/2003 10:37:46 AM
wow. where did you take this. very nice and effective. great color, focus, composition, perspective. top photo this week.
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05/12/2003 08:55:44 AM
Nice shot (and effect). I wondered if the shot were legal but just realised they're not real butterflies. Nice one.
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05/12/2003 05:38:15 AM
Wow - that’s nice! The only thing I would maybe change is that leaf partly blocking the yellow butterfly’s wing.
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05/12/2003 12:50:34 AM
I love the stark colors against the green leaves, it has a surreal feel to it. Very nice!
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