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Challenge: Leading Lines II (Advanced Editing IV)
Camera: Canon EOS-20D
Lens: Canon EF-S 17-85mm f/4-5.6 IS USM
Location: NYC
Date: Jun 26, 2005
Galleries: Emotive, Candid
Date Uploaded: Jun 26, 2005

Hey Everyone...thanks for the comments...I'm really happy to have cracked the secret of 7 at least for the moment. I take back the evil thoughts I've been having about the site lately ;)

As you can tell, I'm writing this post challenge as I decided to submit something about 30 minutes before deadline. I had taken the pic at the beginning of the week and hadn't thought much about it until late.

I knew what I wanted compositionally and emotionally, but the lighting was very harsh (it was taken at 2pm) An S curve adjustment in photoshop and I was blown away by the details in the wood...I'm guessing I need to thank my 20D for that. With a tree lined background and a deep shadow on the right rail I brought down the levels in those areas to black to really bring out the strength of lighter areas. I needed to tone down the rail a bit with a burn and tone up the man in spots with a dodge. I cloned out some specs, but missed a few due to time.

Sorry, to the photo reality purists...photoshop was used to bring out the beauty of what I saw in my mind but which was trapped under the physical limitations of the true scene. I'm glad I decided to revisit this before it ended up in obscurity on my hard drive.

This is Bow Bridge in Central Park, NYC

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Well this pic seems to have once again stirred up a bit of a stink over photographic intent and the "digital darkroom". Until tonight I was not aware of the issues with:
//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=145539
I'm still a bit confused with what the problem was. 'Removal' of elements is not even grounds for disqualification acording to the current rules, which were in effect when this photo was dqd.

It's unfortunate that alot of today's digital photographer's may never fully learn the darkroom techniques of the masters of film...self included.

Masking parts of an image during exposure seems a much more natural photographic technique to me than cloning out small specs of dust and other imperfections.

Questioning is a good thing, it keeps people honest. But it also can stifle progress. As always, the artist in me wonders what would happen if all this energy put into criticism where put into creation.

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This post has some more commentary from me and most likely the closest you'll get to the original without bribing the SC:

//www.dpchallenge.com/forum.php?action=read&FORUM_THREAD_ID=236484&page=5

I think anyone is crazy to think this site wouldn't be better without more images like redmoon's:

//www.dpchallenge.com/image.php?IMAGE_ID=196102

Statistics
Place: 1 out of 275
Avg (all users): 7.7450
Avg (commenters): 9.1915
Avg (participants): 7.5152
Avg (non-participants): 8.0000
Views since voting: 19384
Views during voting: 441
Votes: 251
Comments: 82
Favorites: 50 (view)


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08/18/2005 05:31:04 PM
Would love an EXIF on this or info on the shooting mode / shutter speed.
I have the same camera and lense and would love to know how you got the foreground and guy in the back pin-sharp !
Really nice shot and well done.
You deserved this.
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07/10/2005 09:11:59 AM
I gave this a 9 because it had great leading lines. I have to agree with some that said the dark backgound look un-natural. I think the only thing that you really needed to get rid of was the glimpse of what appears to have been another person. The other changes to the bridge were fine. Regardless it is a great example of the challenge theme. Congrats on your blue!
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07/06/2005 05:12:55 PM
how about posting the origional pic so I can get a feel for before / after? Great pic!!
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07/05/2005 02:58:41 PM
Hey! You did what any B&W artist would have done in the darkroom - with great results! Congratulations
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07/05/2005 02:26:29 PM
Sorry about the comments, did not mean to offend.

Deannda
Won't happen again

Message edited by author 2005-07-05 23:09:46.
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07/05/2005 02:21:09 PM
Congratulations on your ribbon! A beautiful shot and excellent demonstration of leading lines.

I have to agree with your statement of how much to do or not to do, post editing. I entered my first challenge and was frightened to do "too much" to my photo and most of the criticisms I am receiving is that I did "pop up" the colors! Oh well! Live and learn!
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07/05/2005 09:15:02 AM
I love the details ! The wood is so rich. Congrats on your ribbon !
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07/05/2005 03:35:42 AM
Congratulations on the blue ribbon. It's a great shot.

Message edited by author 2005-07-05 05:36:46.
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07/04/2005 03:17:53 PM
Nice job Matt, and congrats on your first Blue Ribbon.
This is one of those shots that when it comes on the screen, amazing is one of the first words under my breath. Well maybe a wow or 4 too.
:)
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07/04/2005 11:37:47 AM
Congratulations. A well deserved win.
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07/04/2005 10:02:51 AM
Congrats! Nice job!
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07/04/2005 09:53:23 AM
Absolutely gorgeous! Love this bridge. I think I've photographed the same one where you can see the Dakota off to the left. Is that correct? Anyway, I love the deep rich tones and congrats on the blue!
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07/04/2005 08:33:29 AM
Congratulations
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07/04/2005 07:18:21 AM
Awesome picture!
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07/04/2005 05:15:07 AM
Congratulations !
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07/04/2005 04:35:25 AM
So perfect ! Congratulations !
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07/04/2005 02:47:58 AM
Congrats on your Blue Ribbon
I really like this, so well done
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07/04/2005 02:47:04 AM
Congrats on the ribbon. Great POV.
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07/04/2005 01:19:02 AM
Congtatulations on the blue ribbon,is an excellent image.
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07/04/2005 01:03:08 AM
This is one of my all-time favorites on DPC. Great job, and congrats on the ribbon!
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07/04/2005 12:50:44 AM
That lonely walk into the night...Congratulations on your well deserved blue. A highly impressive image.
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07/04/2005 12:35:23 AM
Congratulations. This was a photo I really liked. Way to go. WOO HOO for you.
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07/04/2005 12:35:12 AM
Very nice, a very sophisticated composition and well-deserving of the blue.
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07/04/2005 12:27:36 AM
Congrats! I don't remember seeing this photo either in the challenge. However, you deserve the blue! Great Shot! :)
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07/04/2005 12:27:08 AM
Well deserved, composition perfect !
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07/04/2005 12:26:26 AM
Please tell us how you managed such a black background with everything else so well lit.
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07/04/2005 12:13:53 AM
I didn't vote on this challenge, but I marked this one for a ribbon when glancing through the thumbnails. Congrats on the excellent image and the ribbon... this is perfect in every way!!
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07/04/2005 12:09:05 AM
Congratulations on the blue. Very well done!
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07/04/2005 12:07:00 AM
Congrats!! The clarity is fabulous!
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07/04/2005 12:05:35 AM
a tremendous image here. congrats on the ribbon.
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07/04/2005 12:04:43 AM
Perfect for the challenge, and great shot! What a score too. Congratulations!
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07/04/2005 12:01:57 AM
Congratulations, a well deserved win on this excellent shot.
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07/04/2005 12:01:47 AM
wow i didnt see this one during voting congrats!
i would of givin ya a 10
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
07/03/2005 11:35:58 PM
Superb toning and definition!
Very nice, very nice!
One of my favorites in & out of the challenge (9)
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07/03/2005 09:25:24 PM
Back for comments ... This photo has the most amazing light. Love the colors and textures of the boards and the curve of the walkway and bannister. And the light leading into the darkness beyond really is what makes this shot for me. wonderful job. Bumped to a 10
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07/03/2005 08:39:03 PM
Great lines..wonderful composition.
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07/03/2005 08:00:50 PM
This is a great picture, I hope you get a ribbon for this one. It's one of my top 4. 9 from me.
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07/03/2005 05:38:30 PM
Expressive and a hell of a composition. Good work.
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07/03/2005 07:29:53 AM
Very cool shot. The patterns are competing a bit but they all lead to the man. 7
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07/03/2005 02:39:56 AM
Interesting light falling on the man and balustrade considering the black sky. a surreal image that I enjoyed.
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07/03/2005 02:39:44 AM
This is an awesome photo. I love the composition. Great subject. Nice detail. Super job.
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07/02/2005 11:31:02 PM
Very nicely done.
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07/02/2005 12:07:16 PM
you've got an excellent mood to your shot.
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07/02/2005 07:54:23 AM
This will do very well. Bow bridge in Central Park? The lighting here is remarkable. How did you get the background so black? Definitely a striking photo.
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07/02/2005 05:53:21 AM
simply great, the walking guy brings a nice balance to your pic. slightly oversharpened.
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07/02/2005 04:40:17 AM
very cool. For this category in many of the entries people being in them is more a distractant than a help, but here the person adds a lot to the image - telling a story in a way. I love the contrast and colors. Added to my favs. 10
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07/02/2005 02:55:21 AM
Wonderful lughting and great composition. The only flaw I can possibly find is that there is a small white dot near the lower right corner that could, perhaps, be cloned out.
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07/02/2005 01:38:11 AM
Very nice image...love the color and the feel. This is one image where I think you would have been better off without someone in the photo.
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07/01/2005 10:45:16 PM
10
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07/01/2005 06:25:27 PM
Excellent treatment here, great shot...10
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07/01/2005 05:17:06 PM
I love the off-kilter composition of this. I also like the way the bridge is so heavy and imposing, the way it swoops up into a hump, the texture of the surface and the exact positioning of the lone figure. The light falling on him just so makes him a perfect focal point and the blackness of the background is so unexpected it adds an element of surreality to it all. 9
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07/01/2005 04:46:05 PM
I think this is Bow Bridge--I know it well--walk over it every weekend. Nice Shot--good luck (8)
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07/01/2005 12:13:57 PM
That´s a wonderfull photo... Good luck 10... And i dont give that grade often:)
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06/30/2005 07:54:35 PM
What a beautiful story-telling photograph. Impressive lighting you've captured here.
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06/30/2005 04:23:17 PM
This is awesome. I love everything about it. The lighting on the rail on the left, the lines of the hardwood. The black background. and the guy walking away. Great job!!!!
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06/30/2005 04:01:54 PM
great, fits the challenge perfectly.
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06/30/2005 03:19:56 AM
Great shot
10
fit the challenge to a tee
good luck

kev
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06/30/2005 02:22:39 AM
Great lighting and an absolutely beautiful line.
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06/30/2005 01:41:09 AM
Stunning image, great depth of field. Excellent texture in the wood and concrete. A 10.
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06/29/2005 10:43:38 PM
Super line and lighting. 10
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06/29/2005 10:22:44 PM
Beautiful shot... Good luck in the competition!
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06/28/2005 11:34:04 PM
I'd love to know what the structure is he's walking over. One hell of a great shot! 10
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06/28/2005 10:51:45 PM
Great Shot - I'd give it an 11 if I could.
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06/28/2005 07:53:30 PM
Leading lines or curves generally have two purposes. One is to lead the viewer into the scene. The other is to lead you toward the main subject. It is most effective if they come in from the lower left because that is the natural direction humans visually scan a picture from so are easiest to pick up.

Excellent use of left entering leading lines to direct attention to the person walking over the bridge.
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06/28/2005 10:20:32 AM
Nice lighting, this is the type of shot that makes photography art.
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06/28/2005 05:19:44 AM
A high impact image. Shows the rest of us just how dramatic the leading lines of everyday objects can be when properly incorporated into a meticulously composed photograph. 9
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06/28/2005 01:22:06 AM
Great photo. Love the colors, the sharpness is right on as well. I also really like the subject shirt color as it is such a contrast to everything else in the pic. I wish I could shoot photos like this.
:)
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06/27/2005 09:57:21 PM
Nw those are leading lines... I like the symmetry and the multiplicity of lines, in the floor and railing. In to my top 10.
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06/27/2005 09:10:32 PM
I absolutely love this photograph! Very nice work and very nice capture! Met the challenge to boot! Great job!
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06/27/2005 09:05:51 PM
This is lovely. Everything about it appeals to me. Great Work.
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06/27/2005 08:42:43 PM
Love this. Tones great. Use of blue to pull eye to man excellent. lines lead!.. Comp, DOF, POV, all dead on. 10 from me!
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06/27/2005 08:39:54 PM
Great concept and a very striking image but I feel the ornate rail is a tad too bright and hence has lost a little detail. good luck (8)
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06/27/2005 07:34:03 PM
I love this shot, but the guy in it seems out of place...it may be the outfit. I think another "model" or maybe a less cheerful shirt might have worked...not sure, but the bridge is very well shot and this is my favorite of the challenge so far.
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06/27/2005 06:00:26 PM
a beautifully done image perfect foer this challenge, wonderful use of light in an appealing composition
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06/27/2005 05:05:41 PM
The Bow bridge -Central Park. Excellent shot and perfect for this challenge. Good job. 10 from me. Like to know how you got the background so dark.
06/27/2005 01:28:01 PM
You achieved great balance of light.
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06/27/2005 01:14:51 PM
simple yet effective picture, pretty stunning actually!
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06/27/2005 12:54:53 PM
very very nice!
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06/27/2005 12:40:13 PM
I really really like this one! terrific lines, texture, tones, composition. 10
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06/27/2005 12:43:49 AM
NICE!!! I love how his blue shirt is the only other cool color in this composition. Lighting is just excellent. Great texture and depth. -9
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06/27/2005 12:33:05 AM
Excellent use of contrast, and of course those elegantly flowing lines. Surely a winner! 10
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06/27/2005 12:19:48 AM
Eyecatching thumb, excellent detailing and lighting. Like the negative blacks. 9
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