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02/15/2010 10:13:23 AM · #1 |
Bummer, I missed seeing this and never got a chance to enter my photo. :(
I guess I'll have to wait until the next one!
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02/15/2010 10:02:57 AM · #2 |
I've been caught up in several things going on that this response goes under the category - better late than never:-)
Congrats to all the winners - love how the winning entries have a 'judges' commentary on them!
Thanks to  EstimatedEyesfor organizing this challenge and too a big thanks to the time and effort the judges Bear_Music Dr.Confuser DrAchooand bspurgeon spend in discussing all the entries. |
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02/09/2010 04:47:31 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I would have loved to have heard the discussion. It would have been fascinating to hear people debate the images and come to a conclusion. |
Yeah, didn't they promise it would be on CSPAN?! |
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02/08/2010 11:39:52 PM · #4 |
| Thanks to all you guys, especially Dennis for coordinating the exercise. Really fun to read all of the jury comments. Good job! |
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02/08/2010 07:53:40 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I wouldn't want to be on the jury every time...I want a chance to win. ;)
People need to realize that the best way to accomplish the particular way you'd like to see something like this run is to do it yourself. Part of the whole grass roots plan was to give people the impetus to do something. |
Amen, brother sneezy! On the whole it seems to be working, too...
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02/08/2010 07:34:26 PM · #6 |
I wouldn't want to be on the jury every time...I want a chance to win. ;)
People need to realize that the best way to accomplish the particular way you'd like to see something like this run is to do it yourself. Part of the whole grass roots plan was to give people the impetus to do something. |
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02/08/2010 06:39:58 PM · #7 |
I guess I haven't been paying attention (just found this thread) -
Congratulations to all those who received awards! There were so many terrific entries (81 to be exact) to choose from that I can't believe mine was given honorable mention. So, thanks for that but even more, thanks for giving me a reason to post my best of in black and white! It was a very fun side challenge and a very, very long week of voting and commenting (worth every minute, I might add). Much obliged to EstimatedEyes for taking the time to organize this.
And to the jury members for their dedication and efforts.
- hope to meet again sometime!
edited for typo.
Message edited by author 2010-02-08 18:41:45. |
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02/08/2010 05:02:16 PM · #8 |
| I know I'm a little late in my thanks...but I just got back to the world of cyber...been camping for 4 days...Thank you all for the acknowledgement...I really do appreciate it....wow... |
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02/08/2010 04:47:16 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
I would like to see others pick up this ball and run with it. Other juries will reach different results by different processes. By going beyond a simple announcement of the "winners," as we tried to do, such endeavors may foster more discussion, understanding and learning on this site.
Different jurors are critical to the process. Each of our jurors brought different views and personal styles of photography to the table. I thought that was beneficial, in that it forced jurors to explain and defend their view of images that resonated with them but not as much with others. I think it would also be interesting to see a jury formed from people with a cohesive point of view, to explore a certain style of image in depth, starting from a common viewpoint.
When I started this process, I had envisioned that, if it worked, I might run (as a facilitator, not a juror) a series of juried challenges tied to the monthly Free Studies. Each month would be a different topic ... macro, street, portrait, what have you ... announced in advance and then all entries fitting that style would be judged by a different panel of respected members and users each month, with each panel including some experts in that chosen genre for that month.
I would still like to see something like that occur, but at this point I don't have any plans to do it. New blood is critical at that end too. |
I would have loved to have heard the discussion. It would have been fascinating to hear people debate the images and come to a conclusion. My dream would be a rotating panel of judges for free studies for the next number of months. But then give the judges their own forum that only they can write to, but others can read -- just can't comment and mess up the forum. The thought process about what works, what doesn't, what resonates, pointing out things that others might not see, etc., would be more interesting than the results themselves (unless I came up the blue ribbon winner!) |
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02/08/2010 03:23:08 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
When I started this process, I had envisioned that, if it worked, I might run (as a facilitator, not a juror) a series of juried challenges tied to the monthly Free Studies. Each month would be a different topic ... macro, street, portrait, what have you ... announced in advance and then all entries fitting that style would be judged by a different panel of respected members and users each month, with each panel including some experts in that chosen genre for that month.
I would still like to see something like that occur, but at this point I don't have any plans to do it. New blood is critical at that end too. |
Excellent idea :-) I think it's delicious how it chooses an arbitrary "theme" out of the free study field which, if announced ahead of time, might foster more themed entries within that free study, which is just... well.... interesting :-)
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02/08/2010 02:11:54 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
I would like to see others pick up this ball and run with it. |
There are so many balls I've felt that way about... sigh... |
Leave those balls alone and find a balloon instead. |
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02/08/2010 12:55:42 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by EstimatedEyes:
I would like to see others pick up this ball and run with it. |
There are so many balls I've felt that way about... sigh... |
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02/08/2010 12:50:50 PM · #13 |
I would like to see others pick up this ball and run with it. Other juries will reach different results by different processes. By going beyond a simple announcement of the "winners," as we tried to do, such endeavors may foster more discussion, understanding and learning on this site.
Different jurors are critical to the process. Each of our jurors brought different views and personal styles of photography to the table. I thought that was beneficial, in that it forced jurors to explain and defend their view of images that resonated with them but not as much with others. I think it would also be interesting to see a jury formed from people with a cohesive point of view, to explore a certain style of image in depth, starting from a common viewpoint.
When I started this process, I had envisioned that, if it worked, I might run (as a facilitator, not a juror) a series of juried challenges tied to the monthly Free Studies. Each month would be a different topic ... macro, street, portrait, what have you ... announced in advance and then all entries fitting that style would be judged by a different panel of respected members and users each month, with each panel including some experts in that chosen genre for that month.
I would still like to see something like that occur, but at this point I don't have any plans to do it. New blood is critical at that end too.
Message edited by author 2010-02-08 12:51:56. |
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02/08/2010 10:08:59 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by citymars:
my opinion is as valid as anyone's, so *I* want to choose. |
Listen, there's something to be said for any group of people who are on a "panel" and feel pressure to be thoughtful about their decision... |
The only criteria I would set for a panel is that they have a deep love, understanding, passion and experience shooting the particular topic/genre being judged.
Message edited by author 2010-02-08 12:15:29. |
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02/07/2010 10:43:05 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by citymars:
I didn't mean to be a grouch -- you make good points (Robert/Urfa/Neal/etc). Maybe it's just that I think (regardless of my own skill level) that my opinion is as valid as anyone's, so *I* want to choose. Maybe if the juried side-challenges continue, the juries could rotate. Or maybe I'll feel differently about the whole process when my entry wins a citation! |
Oh, for SURE "rotation" of the jury is in the cards. I don't think there's any of from this jury who want to be a permanent juror, that's a terrible (and time-consuming) idea. Left different folks express different points-of-view, for sure. Maybe have one carryover juror to help coordinate the next batch, I donno. That's an issue for another day. But I can guarantee y'all that this particular jury-of-5 will never convene again :-)
We did good work, and now our work is done... Or something like that...
R. |
You guys did great work. I agree, to have multiple users participate. However, I do believe it is probably much more work than was expected. Congrats you five on a job well done. |
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02/07/2010 10:40:18 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by citymars:
I didn't mean to be a grouch -- you make good points (Robert/Urfa/Neal/etc). Maybe it's just that I think (regardless of my own skill level) that my opinion is as valid as anyone's, so *I* want to choose. Maybe if the juried side-challenges continue, the juries could rotate. Or maybe I'll feel differently about the whole process when my entry wins a citation! |
Oh, for SURE "rotation" of the jury is in the cards. I don't think there's any of from this jury who want to be a permanent juror, that's a terrible (and time-consuming) idea. Left different folks express different points-of-view, for sure. Maybe have one carryover juror to help coordinate the next batch, I donno. That's an issue for another day. But I can guarantee y'all that this particular jury-of-5 will never convene again :-)
We did good work, and now our work is done... Or something like that...
R. |
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02/07/2010 10:36:43 PM · #17 |
| Only saw this thread now and almost missed it. Congratulations to the winners! Although there were so many excellenet pictures I think the jury did a great job and it was also nice to read the comments made next to the photos. Thanks once again |
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02/07/2010 09:39:43 PM · #18 |
Brilliant stuff. Congratulations to the winners.
And you even made  Langdon make a comment in this thread. |
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02/07/2010 09:24:28 PM · #19 |
Wow! This is so cool being mentioned in this thread. I'm quite flattered - Thank you!
My apologies for the delay in responding...with the storm that hit our area we lost power yesterday (Saturday) morning. After spending one night in a rather cold dark house we gave in and checked into a hotel. The hot shower and hot meal were heavenly. :-)
I setup a camera in a window the day the storm started and took a photo every couple hours for a time lapse series...can't wait to see how that came out. |
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02/07/2010 07:52:25 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by citymars:
my opinion is as valid as anyone's, so *I* want to choose. |
Ah, but you don't get to choose. The Electorate gets to choose. Your vote gets drowned out in the noise.
Listen, there's something to be said for any group of people who are on a "panel" and feel pressure to be thoughtful about their decision, regardless of who they are. Then to take it further, and pick people who like to think about photography and can express their opinions in words, well, that's just dandy as far as I'm concerned. Their choices interest me far more than the lowest common denominator shots that win ribbons. |
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02/07/2010 07:28:41 PM · #21 |
| Very thoughtful explications. Congrats to all. Thanks for the HM. |
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02/07/2010 05:16:30 PM · #22 |
| wow, thank you for the great recognition. i appreciate it very much. |
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02/07/2010 04:29:50 PM · #23 |
| Congrats to the winners. I very much enjoyed reading the coments on each image. To get an insight on how "this" particular jury felt was interesting and entertaining. |
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02/07/2010 04:24:18 PM · #24 |
| Congratulations to all the winners .. well deserved placings all of them. And many thanks for the hard work put into organising this side challenge, it was fun to participate. |
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02/07/2010 04:04:15 PM · #25 |
What a tough job! THANKS for doing that for us, Jury!
Congrats to the winners!
Although, I have to say... looking at all of the entries, there's not a bad one amongst them! |
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