You are now free to study your scores

10/02/2009 11:26:58 AM · #153

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ok, it's not the grandest of scores...looked alot better at 6.24 yesterday, but the Fav makes up for that!!!

10/02/2009 11:37:22 AM · #154

Originally posted by Ja-9:

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ok, it's not the grandest of scores...looked alot better at 6.24 yesterday, but the Fav makes up for that!!!

Slap!!! (That's for complaining about a score on the north side of 6!)

cutout

Canon EOS-20D

10/02/2009 11:40:52 AM · #155

WOW
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snaffles

Nikon D7100

10/02/2009 11:45:39 AM · #156

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As I should well hope for! Jeez!

OMG Jan, that is a beating your taking. Hope it ends soon.

snaffles

Nikon D7100

Nikon AF-S DX 18-105 f/3.5-5.6 ED VR

10/02/2009 11:46:55 AM · #157

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As I should well hope for! Jeez!

OMG Jan, that is a beating your taking. Hope it ends soon. [/quote]

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Better.

ineedauniquename

Nikon D90

10/02/2009 11:50:04 AM · #158

I think free studies are a double edged sword, the standard is so much higher which pressures scores down a bit but also the shere number of entries mean that people thumbnail vote and only view pictures that they are interested in so kind of keeping some of the low scoring out of the bag.

Thats the only explanation of why my picture of ajdsfa;dsgha dsgih ;fdkg is bumbling along quite nicely at 5.0

George

Nikon D750

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR

10/02/2009 11:54:06 AM · #159

Originally posted by ineedauniquename:

Don't assume. And if people are thumbnail voting, they're probably doing it just so they have a starting point now and bump up/down later. It's hard voting in a free study challenge when you go through the images one-by-one from the start.

Message edited by author 2009-10-02 11:55:01.

ineedauniquename

Nikon D90

Nikon AF-S DX 18-105 f/3.5-5.6 ED VR

10/02/2009 12:05:35 PM · #160

Originally posted by george917:

Originally posted by ineedauniquename:
I think free studies are a double edged sword, the standard is so much higher which pressures scores down a bit but also the shere number of entries mean that people thumbnail vote and only view pictures that they are interested in so kind of keeping some of the low scoring out of the bag.

Thats the only explanation of why my picture of ajdsfa;dsgha dsgih ;fdkg is bumbling along quite nicely at 5.0

Don't assume. And if people are thumbnail voting, they're probably doing it just so they have a starting point now and bump up/down later. It's hard voting in a free study challenge when you go through the images one-by-one from the start.

True true, still I'm ejoying what I thought would be a 4er bumbling along as 5er even if it plumets in the next few days :-/

phase3

Olympus E-5

Olympus 50-200mm f/2.8-3.5 SWD Zuiko Lens ED

10/02/2009 12:27:21 PM · #161

The really cool thing about free studies is that you are putting your work out there with hundreds of other wonderful photo's and it is a challenge to keep a score above a 5.5 with so many people voting.
So far my photo is holding it's own and has even went back up from the 5.7 it was sitting on yesterday.
(I don't usually have this kind of luck).
With 5 days to go anything can happen........And usually does.

I guess time will tell.

:)

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10/02/2009 12:27:31 PM · #162

Sigh. For all the time and effort I put into this place, you think I'd get a little love back, but no... none at all.

My shot is NOT a 5.1 shot. I know everyone says this. And most times when I get a 5.1 I'll eventually concede that yeah, it's a 5.1 all right. But not this one. For Pete's sake (even though Pete didn't have a darn thing to do with it and has not yet favorited it) this is AT LEAST a freakin' 5.3 shot! So go give me some love, people, or I'll delete all 28,000+ comments!! (Granted, that might take awhile...)

Sigh.

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snaffles

Nikon D7100

Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4 DC Macro OS HSM

10/02/2009 12:28:17 PM · #163

Ah feel yer pain...but remember, if your entry scores around 5.5 in a FS, it's pretty much a 6.0 in any other challenge! :-)

gg3rd

Canon EOS-500D Rebel T1i

10/02/2009 12:32:52 PM · #164

Originally posted by snaffles:

Ah feel yer pain...but remember, if your entry scores around 5.5 in a FS, it's pretty much a 6.0 in any other challenge! :-)

I wonder why is that... Why people are so harsh on something that, as the name says, free.

Tlee05

Canon EOS-5D

10/02/2009 12:34:54 PM · #165

Lots of comments so far,

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Citadel

Nikon D7500

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

10/02/2009 12:55:23 PM · #166

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Between this challenge and the straight challenge

a) The voters have pretty much brought their torches and pitchforks
b) Those same voters have left their bag of comments at home.

Yes. 140 or so votes (between the two entries) and not one comment. My images are either so mired in mediocrity that they are not worthy of comment or people are just sleepy and don't feel like commenting.

eta: The voters are also bouncing up and down on a trampoline. At least that's what my votes look like.

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Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

10/02/2009 01:03:13 PM · #167

Dangit. My overall average just keeps falling. I'm starting to actually, truly get a little irritated. But I must remember that the voter, bless his or her heart, is always right, and I have failed.

Bah. I swear I will try for "WOW" next month. I won't get it, but I will try. (walks off, whimpering...)

ace flyman

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

10/02/2009 01:17:58 PM · #168

I don't get it? I love voting on free studies. So many high qualify images. Took two days for my first pass, no 10's on my first pass, I go back & bump my votes ending up with half dozen or so tens every time.

Stats: You have rated 399 of 400 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 7 images (2%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.0351.

bmartuch

Nikon D7200

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G

10/02/2009 03:35:53 PM · #169

Originally posted by Melethia:

Dangit. My overall average just keeps falling. I'm starting to actually, truly get a little irritated. But I must remember that the voter, bless his or her heart, is always right, and I have failed.

Have you tried large amounts of alcohol?

It doesn't make your score any better but it's fun trying.

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

10/02/2009 03:41:28 PM · #170

Originally posted by bmartuch:

Originally posted by Melethia:
Dangit. My overall average just keeps falling. I'm starting to actually, truly get a little irritated. But I must remember that the voter, bless his or her heart, is always right, and I have failed.

Have you tried large amounts of alcohol?

It doesn't make your score any better but it's fun trying.

No, but I am sorely tempted to find my ration card and purchase cigarettes.... grrrr.....

vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

10/02/2009 03:57:16 PM · #171

Originally posted by Melethia:

Originally posted by bmartuch:

Originally posted by Melethia:
Dangit. My overall average just keeps falling. I'm starting to actually, truly get a little irritated. But I must remember that the voter, bless his or her heart, is always right, and I have failed.

Have you tried large amounts of alcohol?

It doesn't make your score any better but it's fun trying.

No, but I am sorely tempted to find my ration card and purchase cigarettes.... grrrr.....

No. The voter is not always right. The voters seem to get mean at free study time. Haven't you noticed that free study scores are usually not any higher than regular scores? That just doesn't seem right to me. The free study images are usually better and stronger images than the challenges and the scores should reflect that. I don't think an image should drop .5 just because it's entered in free study.

Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

10/02/2009 04:02:45 PM · #172

Hmmm. I've only voted a little under half on the FS so far - average vote given is 6.3. On the two open challenges, both voted 100%, average given was 5.7 and 5.8.

So I'm doing my part.

And yes, no matter what, the voter is right - it is their vote and they can cast it as they see fit. Photos end up with the average they end up with. No such thing as underrated or overrated - just rated.

Message edited by author 2009-10-02 16:10:19.

Yo_Spiff

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

10/02/2009 04:05:32 PM · #173

Originally posted by vawendy:

Haven't you noticed that free study scores are usually not any higher than regular scores? That just doesn't seem right to me. The free study images are usually better and stronger images than the challenges and the scores should reflect that. I don't think an image should drop .5 just because it's entered in free study.

Not mean, just evaluating differently. There are many people who use the 1-10 scale as a ranking system, rating all the entries against each other and coming out with an average vote of around 5.5. They feel that is the correct way to do it and what matters is the ranking, not the vote. Others will rate the shot on it's own merits and averages handed out in freestudies tend to be higher.

Mine is pretty high so far in this one.

You have rated 39 of 400 images (10%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 9 images (2%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.7692.

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vawendy

Sony Alpha 1

Sony FE 200-600mm f/5.6-6.3 G OSS

10/02/2009 04:06:48 PM · #174

Originally posted by Melethia:

Hmmm. I've only voted a little under half on the FS so far - average vote given is 6.3. On the two open challenges, both voted 100%, average given was 5.7 and 5.8.

So I'm doing my part.

Well done!! I know I've been harsher in the past, and that definitely won't happen again. I found myself thinking, "this is a free study--they should have fixed this or changed that." It's quite stupid of me to think that it's fine to have flaws in a challenge, but not in a free study. I just figured that challenges were very limiting and you had so much more latitude in a free study to be able to do things right.

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