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01/09/2009 07:53:43 PM · #1 |
In this recent voting thread prompted by the Transparency III results there was quite a debate over challenge titles verses description, and some speculation on much voters considered each. The idea of voting only by SC or other panel of experts was also mentioned.
I had another idea, and let me preface by noting that it is not my intention of doing away with the anonymous voting nor the rule against discussing an image while voting is in progress.
Why not try a special challenge where voting is open? As each image was opened for voting the current average and bar chart with the breakdown of scores would show below it and comments would be shown for all to see. Each individual vote would still be anonymous. Commenters̢۪ identities could be hidden (or not?) during voting but would be revealed after. For this special challenge, voters would be encouraged to leave comments specifically to influence other voters.
Again, I̢۪m not suggesting changing the current system or rules. Just a clearly (if that̢۪s even possible around here given the debate over Transparency III) labeled special challenge so that participants would know what they̢۪re in for should they choose to enter.
I think debating an image while voting is in progress would offer interesting insights as to how people vote and might generate feedback for the photographer that̢۪s different than the regular comment system.
Am I on to something here? Am I nuts? Could this work? How would you tweak the idea to make it work? Would you scrap it altogether and dismiss me as a lunatic?
But most importantly – would you enter?
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01/09/2009 08:09:55 PM · #2 |
I imagine it would certainly cause a great deal of discussion / debate over images, but then you have people attempting to influence other peoples votes with their comments. Since as has been mentioned a number of times that photography and art is very subjective I'm not sure that's a good idea.
Imagine there's a challenge where the theme is "Conflict", I see a picture of a cat and a dog and I decide that it's an excellent representation of conflict purely based on difference of race and is good representation of troubles in the current world (or some other such interpretative blah), you on the other hand see it as a photo of someone's pets and decide it doesn't meet challenge.
After reading my comment you may decide that it is in fact a great shot and does meet the challenge and give it an 8, that's really me voting again and not you. If you thought it didn't meet the challenge because you didn't see the symbolism (if there was even one intended) then surely you should vote based on that as the photographer didn't properly convey the message to you, and not on what I think or feel about it. |
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01/09/2009 08:15:14 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Covert_Oddity:
I imagine it would certainly cause a great deal of discussion / debate over images, but then you have people attempting to influence other peoples votes with their comments. Since as has been mentioned a number of times that photography and art is very subjective I'm not sure that's a good idea.
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Influencing other votes actaully is the idea. Kind of like a group evaluation instead of individual not that everyone is going to agree and and not to replace the current system - just see how it goes.
Message edited by author 2009-01-09 20:15:48. |
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01/09/2009 08:17:53 PM · #4 |
I'd only go for this if there was a caveat that anyone entering the challenge is absolutely forbidden from responding to any of the votes that they got, and anyone, period, that was negative or confrontational about anyone's vote would face suspension.
Other than that, it could be an interesting trial. |
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01/09/2009 08:24:46 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I'd only go for this if there was a caveat that anyone entering the challenge is absolutely forbidden from responding to any of the votes that they got, and anyone, period, that was negative or confrontational about anyone's vote would face suspension.
Other than that, it could be an interesting trial. |
A good point and I agree. I would think that bringing up your own image in voting would only allow for viewing comments not making any. Do you think there would be enough thick-skinned members?
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01/09/2009 08:45:08 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by maynerd12:
Originally posted by K10DGuy:
I'd only go for this if there was a caveat that anyone entering the challenge is absolutely forbidden from responding to any of the votes that they got, and anyone, period, that was negative or confrontational about anyone's vote would face suspension.
Other than that, it could be an interesting trial. |
A good point and I agree. I would think that bringing up your own image in voting would only allow for viewing comments not making any. Do you think there would be enough thick-skinned members? |
I think if there's one thing I've learned since I signed up is that thick-skinned is a foreign word 'round these parts. |
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01/10/2009 04:48:18 PM · #7 |
| honestly the only trial on voting that could be interesting could be the obligatory comment for the votes under 4. this could be interesting because could have a positive effect with an increment of the comment and discourage the trolls. |
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01/10/2009 04:53:39 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
honestly the only trial on voting that could be interesting could be the obligatory comment for the votes under 4. this could be interesting because could have a positive effect with an increment of the comment and discourage the trolls. |
We tried that in the past; it had no effect on the average comments received or the average score. |
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01/10/2009 05:38:17 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by Rino63:
honestly the only trial on voting that could be interesting could be the obligatory comment for the votes under 4. this could be interesting because could have a positive effect with an increment of the comment and discourage the trolls. |
What kind of comments would you expect if they were forced? Certainly not well thought out, insightful ones. |
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