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11/05/2008 08:59:01 AM · #1076

I'm not going to go in depth with it I was just stating that were all screwed. I'm in a good mood today and I don't feel like arguing with a bunch of people over an issue that will never end.

It's like... well like this.

David Ey

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11/05/2008 09:00:15 AM · #1077

Originally posted by Gordon:

JFK came pretty close a few times.

Gordon, JFK said "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

Lets see how long you stay in the US. I'll say less than 18 months after he takes office.

11/05/2008 09:13:42 AM · #1078

It's pretty funny seeing the same comments made by Democrats after the last election now being said by Republicans. As for you who fear Obama's presidency, feel the nation is heading down, and feel a sense of doom and disappointment, I say: welcome to my shoes for the last eight years! I hope you enjoy the frustration and outrage. ;-)

Hmmm, does that mean you will also feel the same stomach-churning and justifiable revulsion everytime you hear our President speak? Seriously, I hope not. I believe Obama is a leader who sincerely wants to make the U.S. better for all citizens and not just for his fellow oilmen and other financial elite. I hope that his gifts win you over.

For me, it was such a relief hearing him speak last night. A leader who can speak!

Dirt_Diver

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11/05/2008 09:21:03 AM · #1079

Originally posted by citymars:

I agree 100% with you there. I don't think either of them should be in office but it's a damn good thing that Bush is leaving office.

I think the only thing I will miss about Bush is all the fun people made of him. David Letterman, Frank Caliendo, SNL, and so on...

cowboy221977

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11/05/2008 09:22:44 AM · #1080

All I have to say is America needs to be ready for the Great Depression part 2. Also higher utilities cost and less military. They are already talking about cutting down the military......Why do we need to protect ourselves from the enemy anyway!!!!!

Gordon

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11/05/2008 09:24:29 AM · #1081

Originally posted by David Ey:

Originally posted by Gordon:
JFK came pretty close a few times.

Gordon, JFK said "ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

Lets see how long you stay in the US. I'll say less than 18 months after he takes office.

Plan was for that already... Depends how fast my taxes go up.

JFK also said 'It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union' Someone asked how one man can cause lots of destruction. We'll see how Biden's manufactured crisis goes.

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11/05/2008 09:31:55 AM · #1082

Originally posted by dponlyme:

There is nothing left but to hope for the best. I will support Obama as I would any US president. I hope the people are right in electing him. We will see.

Graciously put, Darryl.

Originally posted by ericwoo:

... Maybe he has a magic trick up his sleeve to stop inflation so this won't matter. I hope he was right, but ...

Eric, we most definitely have a long, difficult climb ahead, but I think the Democrats have as good a chance as anyone of pulling this country out of its current woes.

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

If anything, {talk radio} will flourish, ranting, raving and spewing vitriol against the Dems as it did under Clinton.

I think you're absolutely right, 'mo.

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

All I have to say is America needs to be ready for the Great Depression part 2.

Cowboy, you certainly can't blame that on Obama and party. Good lord.

eqsite

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11/05/2008 09:42:07 AM · #1083

The one thing I am most proud of about this election is that the politics of hope won out over the politics of fear. You even hear it here from some of the McCain supporters, and that is great. From one of my favorite movies:

"hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things."

and

"I find I'm so excited, I can barely sit still or hold a thought in my head. I think it is the excitement only a free man can feel, a free man at the start of a long journey whose conclusion is uncertain. I hope I can make it across the border. I hope to see my friend, and shake his hand. I hope the Pacific is as blue as it has been in my dreams. I hope."

It's fine to think that Obama may not be able to get us on the right track, so long as we all hope that he can.

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11/05/2008 09:47:01 AM · #1084

Originally posted by Gordon:

We'll see how Biden's manufactured crisis goes.

Biden won't manufacture a crisis, he simply predicted one.

RayEthier

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

11/05/2008 10:06:37 AM · #1085

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

Surely you can't ascribe these events to a President that has yet to be sworn into office. The likelihood of a Depression are at best infinitesimal, particularly when we consider that there are checks and balances in place today that were not in place when the Great Depression occurred.

If indeed there are cut backs in the military, that would be something that is being undertaken by the people currently in power and has nothing do do with Mr. Obama. Having said that, there is conceivably room to manoeuvre relative to the war in Iraq, and some considerable savings may be made once the area stabalizes and Iraq can assume control over the various warring factions. Surely you can appreciate the savings that would be made under such a scenario.

Lastly, with the savings you would make from an eventual withdrawal from Iraq, you could quite readily implement security measures and develop a heightened level of "Intelligence", thereby ensuring the security and safety of US interests both at home and abroad.

You might also consider the fact that the election of Mr. Obama quite conceivably improved the image of the USA on the international front. With a bit of effort, the tact and diplomacy exhibited by the President elect might lessen tensions and give rise to pro-active and peaceful discussions, and that this manner of proceeding might alleviate some of the problems the USA currently has to contend with.

Just another man's view on the situation.

Ray

K3Master

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11/05/2008 10:24:13 AM · #1086

Just a small amusing thing today:

I'm sitting here reading The Globe and Mail.

"Obama Overcomes" reads the headline, a giant photo of Obama and his family. A truly historic day for the U.S.

Yet what is on TV across the room from me? The kids are watching Peter Pan, and I suddenly hear "What makes the Red Man Red?"

In this moment the meaning of just how far society has really come hits me.

For all the fear/uncertainty/dislike that people who are against Obama show, almost none of it is because of race, when only 40 years ago... well, it truly is a day that'll go down in history.

posthumous

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11/05/2008 10:41:58 AM · #1087

Originally posted by K10DGuy:

For all the fear/uncertainty/dislike that people who are against Obama show, almost none of it is because of race, when only 40 years ago...

Wrong. A white man wouldn't be accused of being a Muslim because he spent a few years in Indonesia. The attack ads, the rumors, the pictures being distributed over the Internet, tell the story of racism. Voters in West Virginia and Kentucky had the balls to say it right out loud.

K3Master

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11/05/2008 10:48:23 AM · #1088

Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by K10DGuy:
For all the fear/uncertainty/dislike that people who are against Obama show, almost none of it is because of race, when only 40 years ago...

Wrong. A white man wouldn't be accused of being a Muslim because he spent a few years in Indonesia. The attack ads, the rumors, the pictures being distributed over the Internet, tell the story of racism. Voters in West Virginia and Kentucky had the balls to say it right out loud.

I stand corrected then. I guess most of what I've been reading and seeing had been filtered more than you got first hand down there.

NikonJeb

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11/05/2008 10:57:12 AM · #1089

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

I'm not going to go in depth with it I was just stating that were all screwed. I'm in a good mood today and I don't feel like arguing with a bunch of people over an issue that will never end.

I have no interest in an argument, either.

You did, however, make a fairly ignorant and inflammatory statement and now you won't substantiate it.

Personally, I am very happy, and I was really scared at the thought of not only McCain in the White House, but Palin as well.

But believeing destruction if they won? PLease!

Gordon

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11/05/2008 11:17:15 AM · #1090

Originally posted by citymars:

Originally posted by Gordon:
We'll see how Biden's manufactured crisis goes.

Biden won't manufacture a crisis, he simply predicted one.

Yes, he predicted a manufactured crisis.

scarbrd

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11/05/2008 11:19:31 AM · #1091

Originally posted by david_c:

Originally posted by Jac:
Sarah Palin isn't going to go away so esaily either.

Yes, she is. Last you'll hear of her. She appeals to such a narrow segment of the population that the GOP would be crazy to invite her back for '12. She may run as an independant, but this was her 15 minutes. Looking forward to the Playboy spread, though. :-P

Here's the Palin scenrio:

1. Ted Stevens wins the senate race in Alaska eventhough he's a recently convicted felon.
2. The Republican senate leadership has already commited to expelling him from the Senate.
3. The Alaska governor (Sara Palin) gets to appoint the senator to fill his seat.
4. Palin appoints herself to be Senator from Alaska

You can see this one coming a mile away.

DrAchoo

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11/05/2008 11:21:29 AM · #1092

Man, I'm guessing even congress, an institution that has become synonymous with partisan bickering, will have a spirit of unity and a willingness to work together longer than it lasted here on DPC...

zeuszen

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11/05/2008 11:24:38 AM · #1093

Originally posted by posthumous:

This is why I'm concerned about potential assassination attempts and only hope he 'll be able to protect himself effectively in the long run.

cpanaioti

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11/05/2008 11:33:40 AM · #1094

It's funny how some expect open mindedness of others but find it hard to provide the same themselves.

Louis

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11/05/2008 11:43:23 AM · #1095

Originally posted by cpanaioti:

It's funny how some expect open mindedness of others but find it hard to provide the same themselves.

Who, in particular?

Phil

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11/05/2008 11:57:35 AM · #1096

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by Phil:

Originally posted by Spazmo99:

Originally posted by Phil:
I guess some were too busy baa baaing to see the fact that I said I didn't agree with his policies and they aren't the reason I'm voting for him.

Oh well.

I understand why you voted for him.

I just don't think that's the way to break away from 2 party rule.

Actually, it's the only way.

If he got 5% of the popular vote then the Libertarians would receive the same funding as the dems and repubs along with a podium at the debates in 2012. I don't see any other feasible way, do you?

I couldn't live with myself had McCain won and I had voted for a 3rd party candidate.

He wasn't going to win. If, in the states that had an overwhelming majority for Obama (and vice versa), voters would've applid common sense and voted Libertarian we would've had a viable third party in 2012. Instead, we'll be stuck right where we are now.

Bugzeye

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11/05/2008 12:05:55 PM · #1097

To those of you who do not like the decision, who think Obama is going to destroy this country etc, I have a suggestion that might be good for you and the rest of America, Move to Alaska and help Todd Palin gain Alaska's independence from the USA Vote for Sarah to be your President then you can all be happy and America can move forward without all the feetdraggers holding the rest of us back.