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 07/04/2008 08:23:08 AM · #126
P.S. I can't afford Photoshop yet! There are some of us out here that don't have it!
 07/04/2008 08:34:08 AM · #127
Originally posted by Wildcard:
So can I just clarify, How big is a point? What percentage of the photo classes as a point? At what percentage does it become a dot, or heaven forbid, a spot?

/runs away giggling...


Oh yeah, giggle away! I think my point is too big! It's making me crazy! But...what if it's too small??? I can't take it!
 07/04/2008 09:16:30 AM · #128
Originally posted by dsray:
Originally posted by JunieMoon:
Is white a color?


A true photographer would say "of course it is. It's the combination of all colors." But, alas, additive perversion reigns supreme.


I think you're talking about subtractive perversion there...

Cyan, magenta and yellow (blue, red and yellow) pigments will approach black when mixed together. This colour mixing is called subtractive because a pigment effectively subtracts wavelengths of light other than its own colour, by absorbing them.

Red, green and blue light source, eg spotlights, will produce something like white light when illuminating the same surface. This mixing by accumulating frequencies is called additive blending.
07/04/2008 10:08:25 AM · #129
I took point of color to mean what is the point of color? Show an image that reflects that question. Anyway, I had not even let it enter my mind to create an image with a small point of color, using negative space as the surrounding composition. Well, my entry remains, despite the fact that it is more about the point of color, rather than a point of color.
 07/04/2008 10:17:30 AM · #130
Originally posted by JunieMoon:
I took point of color to mean what is the point of color? Show an image that reflects that question. Anyway, I had not even let it enter my mind to create an image with a small point of color, using negative space as the surrounding composition. Well, my entry remains, despite the fact that it is more about the point of color, rather than a point of color.


Challenge description: Capture an image where a point of color is the main subject. No sort of selective desaturation allowed! Still have 2 days. :D
 07/04/2008 10:32:53 AM · #131
Originally posted by idnic:
Originally posted by JunieMoon:
I took point of color to mean what is the point of color? Show an image that reflects that question. Anyway, I had not even let it enter my mind to create an image with a small point of color, using negative space as the surrounding composition. Well, my entry remains, despite the fact that it is more about the point of color, rather than a point of color.


Challenge description: Capture an image where a point of color is the main subject. No sort of selective desaturation allowed! Still have 2 days. :D


I still think I am not stretching it with the one I chose. I guess we will see when the votes are in. I just don't want to see a bunch of uncreative images where everybody does a tunnel image that is dark or one color, with a point in one of the thirds that stands out. I think overall there is room for interpretation by the voters on what they imagine it to be. I don't see mine receiving dnmc at all. My voting is looking for an obvious color that stands out from the rest of the composition. If the color takes up 1/3, 1/2, or 1/10th of the image, I vote based on how well it was executed, not how much point the color takes up. However, if the color is taking up too much of the composition so there is little else, I won't be voting those very high.

This is an image where the color is very obvious, but I would vote it low because there is little else in the image.


This one seems to capture more of what is being looked for, I think. If the quality was better, I would probably give this one a decent score.



Any comments on my interpretation? Would like to hear from some voters.

Message edited by author 2008-07-04 10:43:57.
 07/04/2008 11:07:34 AM · #132
Originally posted by JunieMoon:

This is an image where the color is very obvious, but I would vote it low because there is little else in the image.


This one seems to capture more of what is being looked for, I think. If the quality was better, I would probably give this one a decent score.



Any comments on my interpretation? Would like to hear from some voters.

Sounds about right to me.
 07/04/2008 12:54:05 PM · #133
OK, I'm in, though I'm still not 100% confident I met anyone's expectations with my shot. As to processing, I avoided touching saturation at all, so it ain't DQ'able.

Whether I made a good "point" or not remains to be seen :-)
 07/04/2008 09:36:28 PM · #134
Just to throw a quick question out there. I would like to use colorize on part of the image. Not to reduce the color of that part of the image but rather to create a consistent color for that part. Is this okay or are all color adjustments out of bounds for this challenge? Just wunnerin'
 07/04/2008 10:05:13 PM · #135
Originally posted by Citadel:
Just to throw a quick question out there. I would like to use colorize on part of the image. Not to reduce the color of that part of the image but rather to create a consistent color for that part. Is this okay or are all color adjustments out of bounds for this challenge? Just wunnerin'


Are you trying to even out the color? If there is a spot you want to cover because it is discolored or, in the case of a flower, a bit brown because a petal is old, I think that would be okay. To create a more realistic, even image, it would seem that is perfectly fine. Just don't change the color surrounding it to make it more brilliant. That is my opinion. I am not staff so I might be dead wrong, but I am sure others will also try to answer.

Message edited by author 2008-07-04 22:06:26.
 07/05/2008 07:57:34 AM · #136
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by JunieMoon:

This is an image where the color is very obvious, but I would vote it low because there is little else in the image.


This one seems to capture more of what is being looked for, I think. If the quality was better, I would probably give this one a decent score.



Any comments on my interpretation? Would like to hear from some voters.

Sounds about right to me.


for me booth the images are fine in the challenge, I don't like the first one but the second is good in the images the point of color is evident also if the background isn't black and white
 07/05/2008 02:09:06 PM · #137
Might be an idea to avoid the obvious . . .
07/05/2008 03:44:08 PM · #138
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by JunieMoon:

This is an image where the color is very obvious, but I would vote it low because there is little else in the image.


This one seems to capture more of what is being looked for, I think. If the quality was better, I would probably give this one a decent score.



Any comments on my interpretation? Would like to hear from some voters.

Sounds about right to me.


At best those two are very weak entries in terms of meeting the challenge, IMO. While both attempt to make the color prominent neither are actually the main subject, which is the point of the challenge. Nobody on the street would say the yellow or the red in those photos are the main subjects or even a subject in the photos. No, people would describe those as a bird photo and a flower photo and end there. That is because those are the subjects not the color. That said the bird photo is a step in the right direction in that it has those strong primary colors. The way I would approach it though is to focus more on just the shapes. Maybe go around shooting out of focus subjects so you can zero in on just the color and how it fills the frame then slowly pull the focus back in allowing just enough detail to keep the color as the main subject.

Anyway, just my opinion. If I saw these in the challenge I probably would take off a point on the bird photo and maybe two points off the flower photo for missing the mark.

Message edited by author 2008-07-05 15:46:09.
 07/05/2008 06:17:59 PM · #139
Originally posted by yanko:
The way I would approach it though is to focus more on just the shapes. Maybe go around shooting out of focus subjects so you can zero in on just the color and how it fills the frame then slowly pull the focus back in allowing just enough detail to keep the color as the main subject.

VERY clever... get everyone else to shoot out of focus shots... I like the way you think! :P
 07/05/2008 06:21:17 PM · #140
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by yanko:
The way I would approach it though is to focus more on just the shapes. Maybe go around shooting out of focus subjects so you can zero in on just the color and how it fills the frame then slowly pull the focus back in allowing just enough detail to keep the color as the main subject.

VERY clever... get everyone else to shoot out of focus shots... I like the way you think! :P


I was thinking the same thing. Misdirection is the key to winning? How would the voters think of an out of focus shot with just a color being the subject. Well, it is interesting. Might get us thinking about more shallow dof in order to bring out the color subject,which of course has to be absolutely pin sharp. I like it. Okay, I am changing my entry. (lol. not really)

Message edited by author 2008-07-05 18:22:03.
 07/05/2008 07:25:37 PM · #141
Originally posted by Melethia:
Originally posted by yanko:
The way I would approach it though is to focus more on just the shapes. Maybe go around shooting out of focus subjects so you can zero in on just the color and how it fills the frame then slowly pull the focus back in allowing just enough detail to keep the color as the main subject.

VERY clever... get everyone else to shoot out of focus shots... I like the way you think! :P


LOL. That was suppose to be a secret! :P Seriously though if it wasn't clear I was just suggesting an experiment, a starting point to focus on the color first rather than a physical object which is counter to what this challenge is suggesting.

Message edited by author 2008-07-05 19:25:56.
 07/05/2008 07:32:42 PM · #142
Originally posted by idnic:
I don't understand the line of thinking that says "i need to accentuate in processing".


Because this is DPC. Everything has to be Photoshopped to hell and comprised of 34 layers or it isn't acceptable.
 07/05/2008 09:06:21 PM · #143
Okay, so I just finished shooting my challenge entry. I used makeup and other related pigments to give my picture a partial-desat look, but never used that in PP. I'm perfectly confident that, should it get called into question, I can provide an original that will convince the SC my picture is legal. However, I'm worried misinformed voters who think they're right will vote it down. I've had my share of run-ins with the DNMC police before, but do voters tend to judge on Rules as well as Challenge-meeting? God, I hope not. Because I really like this entry.
 07/05/2008 09:13:25 PM · #144
Originally posted by zackdezon:
Okay, so I just finished shooting my challenge entry. I used makeup and other related pigments to give my picture a partial-desat look, but never used that in PP. I'm perfectly confident that, should it get called into question, I can provide an original that will convince the SC my picture is legal. However, I'm worried misinformed voters who think they're right will vote it down. I've had my share of run-ins with the DNMC police before, but do voters tend to judge on Rules as well as Challenge-meeting? God, I hope not. Because I really like this entry.


Oh yeah, you're DOOMED, brother, DOOMED! And the better the job you did, the worse your score will be :-)

R.
 07/05/2008 09:20:36 PM · #145
I had a feeling, lol.
 07/05/2008 09:25:03 PM · #146
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by zackdezon:
Okay, so I just finished shooting my challenge entry...


Oh yeah, you're DOOMED, brother, DOOMED! And the better the job you did, the worse your score will be :-)

R.


Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...;-)

Good Luck and I can't wait to see which one is yours!
 07/06/2008 01:33:22 AM · #147
Let make my one doubt clear. Can I change color of certain portion of my image without desaturating?
 07/06/2008 03:29:42 AM · #148
The way I understand the purpose of the challenge is to draw the viewers eyes to a specific subject based on its color. This doesn't mean the image needs to be black and white or gray, that that because of the color the eye is drawn to that specific subject.

So if I am correct in that then when the edited photo is compared to the original the subject should still draw the eye right to it and that should be the method the SC uses to validate the photos.

So in my opinion shifting colors should be ok, white balance, etc. as long as it doesn't change the focus. If I remember from art class, warm colors against cool colors draw focus.

Now all I need is for someone from the SC to tell me if I understand this correctly. xD
 07/06/2008 04:13:47 AM · #149
Originally posted by bnilesh:
Let make my one doubt clear. Can I change color of certain portion of my image without desaturating?


No, you will not be allowed to make that clear. Selective colour change is asking for trouble. There'll almost certainly be some sort of non-selective slider that will enhance the contrastive effect of your point of colour relative to the rest of the picture. I suspect that software manufacturers are too concerned with sales to be kind enough to have "Abandon Hope, All Ye Who Enter In" pop up on the screen when said tool is activated, but now you know.

edit our/your

Message edited by author 2008-07-06 04:14:40.
 07/06/2008 04:21:21 AM · #150
Originally posted by raish:

No, you will not be allowed to make that clear. Selective colour change is asking for trouble. There'll almost certainly be some sort of non-selective slider that will enhance the contrastive effect of your point of colour relative to the rest of the picture. I suspect that software manufacturers are too concerned with sales to be kind enough to have "Abandon Hope, All Ye Who Enter In" pop up on the screen when said tool is activated, but now you know.

Since the rule is strict about selective color tools in camera only & says nothing about saturation,color changes in post processing except desatuarion I think it should be OK.
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