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03/15/2007 10:14:33 PM · #176 |
I didn't have a longer lens handy, so just shot it like this and planned to crop later. Now, seeing it on the monitor, I rather like the 2 and 2 look of the lilly and shadow next to the leaf and leaf. I think that the reason it works is because of the 2 pairs being at nearly the same slant in the image. I should have splashed a little water on everything, but didn't think of it at the time. Water on the pads rolls into balls and looks good in pics. |
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03/15/2007 11:42:28 PM · #177 |
Well lookie here! Your looking at a bonafied blue shirt! :D
Day 7 -
Ah, now i can start editing these babies up! |
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03/16/2007 12:11:16 AM · #178 |
| I'm going away for the weekend, but I'll start editing up on Monday. |
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03/16/2007 12:46:12 AM · #179 |
Day 5
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03/16/2007 01:47:44 AM · #180 |
Day 7 |
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03/16/2007 02:39:07 AM · #181 |
Day 1 edited
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 02:42:49. |
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03/16/2007 02:50:49 AM · #182 |
Day 2 edited
I'm getting ahead, because I'm going to be pretty busy in the next few days. |
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03/16/2007 03:55:55 AM · #183 |
DAY 7.
was just mucking around and wasnt intending to put these in minimal edit project ... but seeing we are trying to improve our processing skills as well i changed my mind ...
the edited version wont be to everyone's taste of course ... not sure its to my taste either!!! ..
these are the two unedited photographs ....
 
this is edited version ...
i've still got other days already edited to put in here as well ... think i'll just put them in when i feel like it as everyone else is doing .. :) |
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03/16/2007 05:36:02 AM · #184 |
i've just been looking thru ppls edited versions in this thread, and find it a bit of a pain if i cant compare the edited and unedited versions easily .. so it'd be great if ppl could either put the unedited one in the post with the edited version or as a thumb in their edited one ...
also it'd be good if ppl could put their editing steps in the photographers comments .. like its great seeing an unedited photograph and then the edited one .. but without knowing how that edited look is achieved then we arent learning anything about processing ... which was the other part of this project .. like learn about our cameras by taking photographs without thinking of 'fixing' in photoshop and then learning about processing afterwards .... thank you .:)
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03/16/2007 09:21:29 AM · #185 |
 Day 7. a day late - yesterday was full of processing shots for a real estate shoot. not very exciting images, but they pay!
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03/16/2007 09:23:45 AM · #186 |
Roz
Good idea about posting unedited and edited together. I will be editing these all this weekend and will give one post with all my unedited and edited versions.
Originally posted by xxrozxx:
i've just been looking thru ppls edited versions in this thread, and find it a bit of a pain if i cant compare the edited and unedited versions easily .. so it'd be great if ppl could either put the unedited one in the post with the edited version or as a thumb in their edited one ...
also it'd be good if ppl could put their editing steps in the photographers comments .. like its great seeing an unedited photograph and then the edited one .. but without knowing how that edited look is achieved then we arent learning anything about processing ... which was the other part of this project .. like learn about our cameras by taking photographs without thinking of 'fixing' in photoshop and then learning about processing afterwards .... thank you .:) |
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03/16/2007 09:36:28 AM · #187 |
Originally posted by photokariangel:
Well lookie here! Your looking at a bonafied blue shirt! :D
Day 7 -
Ah, now i can start editing these babies up! |
Kari now that you're a member I transferred my comments from your blog over to your photos.
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03/16/2007 09:49:00 AM · #188 |
OK! Here are my thought and questions, please realize that I am not mad at anyone or judging anyone, these are just my opinions (and we all know what opinions are like, right??? LOL)
This started out as a minimal editing challenge (or at least when  Ware3927 suggested it). I thought it would be a great project to do because I don't do a lot of processing on my photos anyway. So I jumped on board. Then it evolved into a minimal editing PLUS processing challenge. Fine, ok, take the originals and edit them, no big deal. But then a lot of people seemed to forget about the first part, the original part, of the challenge. I read comments like "I can't wait to process this one" or "I had the settings wrong but it doesn't matter I'll fix it up in photoshop", etc.
Well then, my question is why the minimal part of the challenge at all? Wasn't this whole challenge to get us thinking before we pressed the shutter? Making sure we had our settings right, our composition right, our horizons level, distracting elements out of the frame, etc?
I stuck to the minimal editing rules, I didn't process and every time someone suggested processing to me would just grin and bear it.
Anyway, that's my thoughts. My 7 days are up but I might just continue on with more minimally edited photos. Go for another 7 days or maybe the full month, who knows. I do know I love taking photos, I don't have a lot of skill in post processing and I really don't want to learn about masking and HDR and tone mapping, etc. I am happy with my little bit of knowledge, I am a hobbyist photographer and I'd like to keep it that way.
Have fun everyone, I've really enjoyed your photos, I've enjoyed commenting on all of them but I probably won't be commenting on the edited versions. Nothing against them, honestly!
Edited for spelling.
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 09:50:40.
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03/16/2007 09:55:08 AM · #189 |
| I am guilty of what Karen has pointed out. I started with the mindset of minimal but then I shifted to thinking along the lines of before and after - which isnt really what this started out as. I was even talking with Melethia about it the other day, that I had gone ina different direction than what this experiments original purpose was. I think I just like processing too much. |
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03/16/2007 09:59:49 AM · #190 |
Since we are confessing...I am guilty as charged as well. I started with my first few entries as "minimal for minimals sake", then decided after reading comments that it might be fun to take some images - especially challenging ones in minimal - and see what I could do with them. Most of my entries were probably suitable for me without editing, but a couple I underexposed slightly on purpose, or chose really nasty lighting conditions just to see what I could do in the 'dark room'.
I will now go sit in the corner for 15 minutes with the little pointy hat on..
Originally posted by timfythetoo:
I am guilty of what Karen has pointed out. I started with the mindset of minimal but then I shifted to thinking along the lines of before and after - which isnt really what this started out as. I was even talking with Melethia about it the other day, that I had gone ina different direction than what this experiments original purpose was. I think I just like processing too much. |
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03/16/2007 10:11:11 AM · #191 |
 Day 8
naughty, naughty people. i was thinking what karen was thinking, but she has more cojones than me. i really do think it's very important to get the shot right in the camera. it takes practice,but once you train yourself, it's automatic. i can say that, as i spent 6 years with a camera almost attached to my face. i'm not quite so obsessive (adult life tends to do that to you), but it trained me well to frame and expose as well as i can in camera. it saves time, and gives a little bit of pride
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03/16/2007 10:15:46 AM · #192 |
it was an excellent idea for lisa to suggest a minimal edit project .. and obviously the ppl who are here must'v agreed .. it just evolved from the minimal bit to a processing bit afterwards ... and i think thats great ... i've moved up a notch in understanding my camera from just the 7 days i've been focusing on minimal editing ... and the processing, well i think that's something you'd never stop learning, as with photography itself ...
we all approach our photography in a different way really, often from one extreme to the other .. like karen who is happy to take her wonderful photographs and leave them just the way they are, to ppl like me who just cant leave a photograph alone ... i dont see any problem with anyone in this thread doing exactly wot they've done .. we have all used this project in different ways ...
so peter, you can come out've your corner now!!!!!! .... :) |
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03/16/2007 10:19:51 AM · #193 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
OK! Here are my thought and questions, please realize that I am not mad at anyone or judging anyone, these are just my opinions (and we all know what opinions are like, right??? LOL)
This started out as a minimal editing challenge (or at least when Ware3927 suggested it). I thought it would be a great project to do because I don't do a lot of processing on my photos anyway. So I jumped on board. Then it evolved into a minimal editing PLUS processing challenge. Fine, ok, take the originals and edit them, no big deal. But then a lot of people seemed to forget about the first part, the original part, of the challenge. I read comments like "I can't wait to process this one" or "I had the settings wrong but it doesn't matter I'll fix it up in photoshop", etc.
Well then, my question is why the minimal part of the challenge at all? Wasn't this whole challenge to get us thinking before we pressed the shutter? Making sure we had our settings right, our composition right, our horizons level, distracting elements out of the frame, etc?
I stuck to the minimal editing rules, I didn't process and every time someone suggested processing to me would just grin and bear it.
Anyway, that's my thoughts. My 7 days are up but I might just continue on with more minimally edited photos. Go for another 7 days or maybe the full month, who knows. I do know I love taking photos, I don't have a lot of skill in post processing and I really don't want to learn about masking and HDR and tone mapping, etc. I am happy with my little bit of knowledge, I am a hobbyist photographer and I'd like to keep it that way.
Have fun everyone, I've really enjoyed your photos, I've enjoyed commenting on all of them but I probably won't be commenting on the edited versions. Nothing against them, honestly!
Edited for spelling. |
I was wondering the same thing and I believe I only gave one suggestion on how I would edit (because the OP asked me to). A lot of times I was lost on commenting because people didn't put the settings that they used to take the photo... I know a little about in-camera and have suggested alterations in a re-shoot kinda way when I thought it appropriate or if I had experience with the subject...
I joined this challenge because I needed the in-camera AND the PS experience... but I did try really hard to get it right the first time LOL... a lot of you have put your settings and some of the commenters have posted suggestions on improving those in-camera shots and I gotta say, that has helped me more than anything :)
ETA: I will be back to do some more comments on Monday... going away for the weekend... if I missed anyone's photo, please feel free to let me know... I tried to get them all :)
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03/16/2007 11:09:53 AM · #194 |
lol well I guess I don't feel any guilt in reference to what Karen said - so call me the lone odd duck. I personally was thrilled to find a side challenge like this because I don't have extended knowledge about photoshop. I joined in because I like to take pictures and every so often, one turns out really good straight from the camera. I wanted to see what others would do with minimal editing, because I knew it would inspire me to look at things differently each time I take a picture.
So then someone suggested - why not 7 days with pics and then 7 days with editing? I thought this was a cool idea because I figured it might help me learn a few new tricks (and I already have!). And I love to see what techniques people apply to create certain outcomes.
I TOTALLY appreciate what Karen is saying about thinking BEFORE you press the shutter. That is something that I always need to keep working on. But isn't it ok to try and make the ones that didn't turn out right just a little bit prettier?? :o)
Just some thoughts from one who is still even trying to figure out her camera...
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03/16/2007 11:22:38 AM · #195 |
Day 7
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03/16/2007 11:25:19 AM · #196 |
| My understanding of this challenge was to take 7-14 photos that were the best out of camera we could produce. So far I have focused on doing just that. I also understood we would be spending the next 7 days (respectively) editing those photos. I do admit to making suggestions and asking for them, but I don't think it was with the intention of minimizing the importance of the first stage. Looking back on my own pictures over the past week I can cerainly see an improvement in my in camera choices, and I hope others can say the same. I do want to improve my pp skills, but not with the intention of becoming a PS photographer. I agree with Karen, or at least with the point I think she was making, that the best photos happen in the camera, not afterwards. I want to learn to be a photographer that can take a good picture without having to fix it. At the same time, I also think there's a place in my toolbox for PS skills and knowledge of how they can enhance my photography. That line is different for everyone, and each of us has to find it for ourselves. |
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03/16/2007 12:51:26 PM · #197 |
I did shoot for this project with the idea of getting something I liked straight from the camera. In most cases, I'm quite happy with the results, but I will be editing to see if those results can be improved upon.
I liked my Day 1 shot pretty much as it came from the camera. I did some minor editing (details are with the picture) and tried a B&W version, but think the "from the camera" version I started with was pretty much just fine.
So here's Day 8 - which for me is Day 1, edited version
Original:
Edits:
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Though I'd have to check to make sure, I think both of these are within the "basic editing" ruleset. |
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03/16/2007 04:36:10 PM · #198 |
these are the edited versions of the two fence photographs which i put in on days 3 & 4, but i thought i'd put them both in together so you can compare the different angles etc of the same fence ...
this is unedited version of day 3 ..
this is edited version ...
this unedited version of day 4 ..
this is edited version ...
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03/16/2007 05:03:40 PM · #199 |
Day 8
Its been busy the past two days so I need to do some catching up on the comments. I have a break around 8 to 9. I should get to everybodys then. |
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03/16/2007 05:09:16 PM · #200 |
I definitely did what Karen talked about, starting with day 2 (where I picked a shot I knew I needed to process as I had my camera set wrong for the shot); sorry about that! It was part of how I understood this challenge, having read the original thread and how it developed, but noting that there was disagreement in how it should go. It looks like I misunderstood the primary thrust here (which is fine, I misunderstand stuff all the time), but I like the original idea, too.
So now I'm in a quandary; I'd like to work harder on getting what I want straight out of the camera (and can use work on that), but I also want to process my shots. For now, as it keeps with what I intended originally when I started on this thread, I'll post my processing of my first seven shots, and then try to stick in for the next days with just posting minimally edited shots (I didn't edit my original shots at all, just resized).
So here is day 8, a process of day 1 (and the original):
Day 1 - Church
Day 8 - Church Edited
I am still very unsure of my processing skills, and often think I overdo it; not because I get excited, or necessarily think it's good, but just because I'm trying to accomplish something and try everything (sometimes all at once) to get that result, and then in the end lose sight of where I was going. I'm not sure about this one yet, but I worked on it for a good, long time . . .
Again, I'm way behind on commenting, so please don't feel any obligation to comment on this -- at least until I'm caught up a bit :)
Even with the misunderstandings, this is fun!
Rob
Edited to add original shot
Message edited by author 2007-03-16 17:12:40.
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