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11/14/2003 10:10:01 AM · #1
Is this story getting much national attention?

//www.timesonline.com/site/news.asp?brd=2305

There's a Chi-Chi's (Mexican) restaurant near us that has apparently been responsible for spreading the hepatitis A virus, and three people have now died as a result.

We eat there ALL the time, and it's just a stroke of luck that we didn't eat there during the time frame that the outbreak occurred! We typically eat there at least a couple times a month, and somehow we managed to go without eating there since September 16. Phew!

Just curious to see whether this is getting much attention outside the Pittsburgh area...
11/14/2003 10:24:40 AM · #2
News here consists of what's happening in Austin, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Occasionally they go all gobal and discuss news in Dallas or Houston, but that is rare. Bush gets a mention because he's a home town boy I guess, having been governor but that's about it. I was surprised to learn recently that there are other states in the US - you certainly wouldn't learn about it in the news around here...
11/14/2003 10:29:33 AM · #3
The story has been regularly covered on the CBS Radio hourly news summary.

Today's news was that the green onions are the most likely culprit, and are being pulled from all of their branches for further testing.

Especially, if you have a health plan, you can find out about vaccination for Hepatitis A.
11/14/2003 10:29:52 AM · #4
It's not getting international attention, at least not in Ottawa :)))
11/14/2003 10:30:13 AM · #5
My sister peruses the paper cover to cover daily. I asked her about it and she said there was one short story about a week ago. Coverage, but not much.

Message edited by author 2003-11-14 10:32:11.
11/14/2003 10:31:31 AM · #6
I listen to MPR(public radio) all the time and do not remember any mention of this. With that many people involved, I'd think it would be a national story. Strange.
Ah, but this is the year we have to be pursuaded to vote for someone other than Bush so we get a lot of Iraq and economic news. Not saying the news is biased or anything!
11/14/2003 10:33:32 AM · #7
Shouldn't take much persuading.
11/14/2003 10:33:46 AM · #8
Well, it's about the only thing on the news here nowadays... there are more than 400 people who have been confirmed with hepatitis, making it the worst outbreak in the history of the country!

They had originally figured that it was the result of an employee not washing his/her hands after using the restroom, but now they're focusing on produce, like the onions as GeneralE noted.
11/14/2003 10:36:05 AM · #9
This is the line of people waiting to get immunized -- there were more than 5,000 people who stood in line to get a shot, some of those people stood for hours!



Message edited by author 2003-11-14 10:36:20.
11/14/2003 10:40:46 AM · #10
Originally posted by alansfreed:

Well, it's about the only thing on the news here nowadays... there are more than 400 people who have been confirmed with hepatitis, making it the worst outbreak in the history of the country!

They had originally figured that it was the result of an employee not washing his/her hands after using the restroom, but now they're focusing on produce, like the onions as GeneralE noted.

Well, the route of transmission is the same, it's just a question of where in the supply chain the contamination occurred.

Makes you wonder about the produce-washing protocols in these places, and admire the tenacity of HvA.

At least in California, kids are now immunized against both HvA and HvB as part of their pre-school shots.
11/14/2003 10:43:45 AM · #11
maybe try checking cnn.com. if it reached there it probably will reach everywhere. i am in erie pa and of course we have heard it. we had a story not long ago that reached all over the world practically, where a pizza delivery man had a bomb strapped to his neck and was allegedly forced to rob a bank, and it exploded, killing him.
11/14/2003 10:48:57 AM · #12
Originally posted by carrieann:

we had a story not long ago that reached all over the world practically, where a pizza delivery man had a bomb strapped to his neck and was allegedly forced to rob a bank, and it exploded, killing him.


Coincidentally, we were at the exact spot where that guy blew up just three days before it happened! We had spent the day at Presque Isle, and ate at a restaurant right by where that incident happened.

Odd things just seem to follow me...
11/14/2003 10:49:47 AM · #13
Originally posted by carrieann:

maybe try checking cnn.com. if it reached there it probably will reach everywhere. i am in erie pa and of course we have heard it. we had a story not long ago that reached all over the world practically, where a pizza delivery man had a bomb strapped to his neck and was allegedly forced to rob a bank, and it exploded, killing him.


I remember that story that wasn't too long ago, did they ever find out any more about it, or catch the person who did it, last I had heard they didn't have any leads? Just curious if there is any update on that case, it was such a sad and strange story.

Shannon
11/14/2003 10:59:27 AM · #14
no updates on the pizza guy. news media from all over the world had set up shop outside that bank for the longest time trying to get stories. but none of the bank employees were allowed to say anything.
11/14/2003 11:02:48 AM · #15
I listen to about an hour of NPR most days and I haven't heard any mention of it - though I guess I'm mostly listening to the BBC world service
11/14/2003 11:04:22 AM · #16
Update -- they're checking where the onions were grown to see if they were ever subjected to flood conditions (likely to contain untreated sewage).
11/14/2003 11:11:48 AM · #17
I thought we had Chi-Chi's here in AZ too, but can't find anything on a quick search. I've not heard anything about it on the news.
11/14/2003 06:36:01 PM · #18
It was NPR national news tonight on the way home...
11/14/2003 06:39:51 PM · #19
Yes. On MPR, too. Said 3 deaths.
11/14/2003 06:50:18 PM · #20
Originally posted by carrieann:

maybe try checking cnn.com.


//www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/conditions/11/14/hepatitis.outbreak.ap/index.html

Well, there you have it! It's really a shame... we got to the point where we practically knew the names of all of the waiters & waitresses... I don't think we'll be back for quite a while.
11/14/2003 06:57:04 PM · #21
Originally posted by Gordon:

News here consists of what's happening in Austin, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Occasionally they go all gobal and discuss news in Dallas or Houston, but that is rare. Bush gets a mention because he's a home town boy I guess, having been governor but that's about it. I was surprised to learn recently that there are other states in the US - you certainly wouldn't learn about it in the news around here...


With the rise of CNN, MSNBC and FoxNews, there's less need for national and global news on local newscasts. Its a 20+ year trend, I think. But we digress.....

Alan: No, I hadn't heard about that, but I haven't seen much news this week. It is an odd coincidence though - I haven't thought of Chi-Chi's in years, but was just talking about it yesterday with a co-worker who's also from the mid-west. Serendipity.

Hope you and yours stay safe and healthy. And enjoy some fried ice cream for me when it's safe to go back. :)
11/14/2003 06:59:36 PM · #22
Originally posted by alansfreed:

Originally posted by carrieann:

maybe try checking cnn.com.


//www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/conditions/11/14/hepatitis.outbreak.ap/index.html

Well, there you have it! It's really a shame... we got to the point where we practically knew the names of all of the waiters & waitresses... I don't think we'll be back for quite a while.

Your logic is lacking -- there will be no restaurant in the area so thoroughly cleaned/inspected for the foreseeable future ... and especially if its partly the supplier's fault, or the USDA for not inspecting it, or the Army Corp of Engineers for screwing with the natural waterways, or no one's fault at all ... they will need your support. Why should those folks you know by name suffer for a mistake beyond their control?
11/14/2003 07:09:33 PM · #23
Three people died for Hepatitis-A? Generally, Hep-A goes away on it's own and is rarely fatal. They must have already had liver problems or there's something the local officials aren't telling you.
11/14/2003 07:14:23 PM · #24
They probably had other health problems, but not necessarily prior liver problems. The old, young, immuno-compromised, etc. are all at risk for the rarest complications of most diseases.
11/18/2003 10:00:37 AM · #25
Your story has finally made it to Boston. First peep arreared last night and this morning it is big news!
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