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06/21/2006 04:50:36 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by lynnesite:
Hey, the earth is curved, it's not always about laziness, can also be about the ability to "see it". I corrected this one (during the challenge) to 1 degree clockwise to account for MY tilt while still showing the slope to the water, got no comments about horizon tilt as far as I recall. I am also very sensitive to tilted horizons when it's within 1-4 degrees of "rightness".
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Teehee... I gave you a comment about it (and scored it a 9), but thought that it seemed to be an intentional choice on your part and one that actually improved the overall composition by increasing the "rear" of the horse.
Message edited by author 2006-06-21 16:54:15. |
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06/21/2006 04:53:15 PM · #27 |
I got a bunch of tilted horizon comments on this one:
I still don't see it. Matter of fact...I don't see a horizon!
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06/21/2006 04:57:53 PM · #28 |
| I have been critiqued about crooked horizon a few times that I didn't think of in my editing. So personally I was thankful for the comments. |
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06/21/2006 05:02:10 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
I got a bunch of tilted horizon comments on this one:
I still don't see it. Matter of fact...I don't see a horizon! |
Vertical lines also indicate tilted horizons, use a known vertical line and compare the tops of the real lighthouse and the reflected. It's not much, but there is a tilt. |
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06/21/2006 05:04:42 PM · #30 |
I for one love to find horizons that look tilted, they create drama!
It's all about the taste I guess.
Cheers,
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06/21/2006 05:06:29 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by terje:
I for one love to find horizons that look tilted, they create drama!
It's all about the taste I guess.
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Do they create drama when they are ever so slightly tilted?
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06/21/2006 05:14:04 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
I got a bunch of tilted horizon comments on this one:
I still don't see it. Matter of fact...I don't see a horizon! |
Most of the comments to your photo aren't commenting about the horizon being tilted, they're commenting on the vertical lines that are leaning over (apparent in the lighthouse and trees, and especially apparent as those vertical lines travel down into the reflections in the water). Essentially, it amounts to the same thing, but maybe the reason you're not seeing it is because you're focussing on the horizon (which, as you point out, isn't there) and not the vertical lines.
And easy way in PS to check for vertical and horizontal alignment is to use the Measure tool (the little ruler activated from the Eyedropper button). You can use it to draw a line across a part of your image that you think should be vertical or horizontal. Then select Rotate-->Arbitrary... and PS will predict the angle that the image needs to be rotated to make the measured line horizontal or vertical.
I did a quick measurement on your photo using the wooden deck as a guide - PS calculated an angle of 0.91degrees CCW rotation was needed. Apply that - you'll see that the image seems a lot more balanced. Of course, measuring different lines yields different angles (wide angle distortions, perspective, etc, affect the lines in the centre differently to the lines at the edge). You need to experiment a bit until the image feels right.
Don't get me wrong, I think your photo is great even without the rotation, and would have voted it high anyway. But that little rotation to straighten those verticals might have bumped up your score by quite a few decimals.
Aesthetics is about those little things that we're not consciously aware of. |
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06/21/2006 05:20:38 PM · #33 |
Whether you like tilted horizons or not, I would not say it's a useless comment. no matter what the intention of the photographer really was, the viewer did not like the tilted horizon and they are HELPING out by letting the photographer know what could have been done to merrit a higher score from them.
It doesn't matter what the "rule" is as to whether tilted horizons are acceptable or not. The point is it is a constructive criticism which is by it's very nature helpful and USEFUL. Whether the photographer uses that or not is up to them. |
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06/21/2006 05:28:45 PM · #34 |
peeps ! please remember if the right side of the horizon is CLOSER to the camera than the left one it will always appear as tilted ... i would really like the voters and all others to remember this
thanks, i'll take a beer now :-) |
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06/21/2006 05:41:57 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by gooc:
peeps ! please remember if the right side of the horizon is CLOSER to the camera than the left one it will always appear as tilted ... i would really like the voters and all others to remember this
thanks, i'll take a beer now :-) |
hand me a beer, too....maybe then i'll understand what you said
:) |
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06/21/2006 06:28:21 PM · #36 |
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06/21/2006 06:29:45 PM · #37 |
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06/21/2006 06:30:00 PM · #38 |
| now how the hell did you do THAT, Ken? |
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06/21/2006 06:30:59 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by Beetle:
now how the hell did you do THAT, Ken? |
Birth defect. I was born with a tilted horizon. |
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06/21/2006 06:36:34 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by Beetle:
now how the hell did you do THAT, Ken? |
Birth defect. I was born with a tilted horizon. |
You could also straighten up your monitor. Might work :P
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06/21/2006 06:37:25 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by biteme:
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Originally posted by Beetle:
now how the hell did you do THAT, Ken? |
Birth defect. I was born with a tilted horizon. |
You could also straighten up your monitor. Might work :P |
I got the "Pivot" kind for my "special needs" :) |
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06/21/2006 06:59:18 PM · #42 |
| It hasn't been noted yet, but people with uncorrected astigmatism may just not see horizontals and verticals quite the same as others. |
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06/21/2006 07:01:33 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
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Haha, that's great! Hilarious!!
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06/21/2006 07:02:05 PM · #44 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It hasn't been noted yet, but people with uncorrected astigmatism may just not see horizontals and verticals quite the same as others. |
True...but that's why PS has a grid function, isn't it? Even with my corrected astigmatism I have to use sure lines. |
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06/21/2006 07:26:09 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by KaDi:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It hasn't been noted yet, but people with uncorrected astigmatism may just not see horizontals and verticals quite the same as others. |
True...but that's why PS has a grid function, isn't it? Even with my corrected astigmatism I have to use sure lines. |
Partly I'm referring to why some people may frame/shoot a slightly off-level horizon in the first place. Then, if the tilt is less than 1/2 a degree off, they may not notice that it needs to be corrected in the first place.
I'm not arguing either side of any argument here, just trying to point out that some people may have a tilted horizon for organic reasons, not merely through carelessness or ignorance, and that it's never wise to assume anything. |
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06/21/2006 08:34:43 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
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Ken, you definately have a unique take on life.
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06/21/2006 08:35:28 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
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ROFLMAO
You are too much Ken... |
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06/21/2006 08:44:23 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by SJCarter:
ROFLMAO
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Quit using his name in vain. ;oP |
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06/21/2006 08:50:53 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by SJCarter:
ROFLMAO
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Quit using his name in vain. ;oP |
No, no, it's used in homage! :) |
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06/21/2006 08:54:07 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by BeeCee:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Originally posted by SJCarter:
ROFLMAO
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Quit using his name in vain. ;oP |
No, no, it's used in homage! :) |
Afraid of the angry villager, eh? :D |
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