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03/31/2006 03:24:18 PM · #51 |
I've seen videos from the conspiacy theorists on 911. In my mind they are bunk. That only says, it's bunk.
It doesn't prove anything else.
If I witness a murder, "I say I saw Tom Jones do it, here's a video of him shooting a rifle."
That doesn't prove Tom Jones did it. It also doesn't mean he didn't do it.
Now, if ten people say they saw Tom Jones did it and ten people say he didn't, did Tom Jones murder someone?
You need more facts to determine, "if the cat in the box is alive or dead."
Since you've sent me, in my opinnion, a reputable source jeez I wonder what really happened? (That's sarcastic)
See the PM web site has names, they have, dates and agencies and governmental reports.
-Rick
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03/31/2006 03:39:59 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by LoudDog:
And for the record, I'm typing this from my desk, at Boeing, in the engineering department (and I don't eat twinkies). |
My mistake and that's cool. Boeing... Wow... Engineering... Sheesh...
Hey did Boeing ever publicly respond to the faulty design being the cause of the Flight 800 crash? Seeings how this is your neck of the woods, you probably know whether they did or not.
-Rick |
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03/31/2006 04:04:25 PM · #53 |
Just a reminder to the combatants in the Pentagon conspiracy sub-conversation, personal attacks are not allowed per the forum rules. Let's keep it civil guys.
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03/31/2006 04:09:09 PM · #54 |
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:
You think that their political ideals go so far as to intentionally NOT show factual details surrounding 9/11, at least their reportings ON 9/11/2001 or shortly after?
Yeah, I know newspapers are VERY politically biased. But not all lean the same way, if I only listed these papers as being reputable, I didn't mean it as they are the only ones. I just ment a reporting agency that has been around the block for many decades.
-Rick |
People obviously think that the current administration's political ideals go so far as bombing their own buildings so why couldn't the same be said for biased newspapers? An AP reporter did it didn't he? Do I have to go dig up the false stories that have been printed by the NY and LA Times reporters so we can take them out of the equation? I guess what I'm saying is that just because a reporting agency has been around for many decades it shouldn't give them a free pass. If it did then the AP's report of a booby trapped truck blowing up the Pentagon would still be considered true. The fact is that most of the "big time" reporters out there are totally politically biased (just like most Americans but that is something for another thread) and yes, I definitely believe that they would deliberately hide information that didn't help push their political agenda or beliefs. This goes for any of them whether it's FOX, CNN, Drudge, Al Franken, and yes - the beloved LA Times.
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03/31/2006 04:56:29 PM · #55 |
For the record, my dad was an aeronautical engineer, was instrumental in the design of the Convair 880 and 990 (most of y'all are too young to remember those fine commercial jetliners), and he had NO problem accepting that it was a commercial plane that crashed into the pentagon. And he's not an easy man to convince of anything.
Robt.
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03/31/2006 05:30:52 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by dudephil:
Do I have to go dig up the false stories that have been printed by the NY and LA Times reporters so we can take them out of the equation? |
I said earlier that my reason for press sources were they are subjected public opinnion more directly than snoops.
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03/31/2006 05:52:26 PM · #57 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
For the record, my dad was an aeronautical engineer, was instrumental in the design of the Convair 880 and 990 (most of y'all are too young to remember those fine commercial jetliners) |
I used to work with a Convair that was retro fit to handle cargo containers for DHL.
Quite the tin can it was. :-) |
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03/31/2006 05:58:46 PM · #58 |
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:
I'd like something a bit diffent than National Enquirer ilk. |
You've stated you didn't even bother reading the site, correct?
If you had, and gotten to the bottom, all snopes stories cite their references:
Harrison, Rebecca. "Sept. 11 Conspiracy Theory Book Lures French."
Reuters. 1 April 2002.
Henley, Jon. "US Invented Air Attack on Pentagon, Claims French Book."
The Guardian. 1 April 2002.
Two reputable press sources that have been around for a while
Before you go dismissing a website as national enquirer, maybe you should take a look at it first. It is actually a useful starting website when trying to gather information on a story. It's an excellent source for checking out if those 861 chain letters warnings you are getting are even remotely real or not.
While snopes may not hold up if cited in a PHD thesis on 9/11 conspiracy theories, it is NOT tabloid fodder, but rather decently researched material on the story at hand.
Edit to add: It seems this 'French book' seems to be the source to be looked at
Back to your normal debate about whatever it is you were debating about
Message edited by author 2006-03-31 18:00:08. |
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03/31/2006 10:29:09 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by CarpeNoctem:
Originally posted by LoudDog:
And for the record, I'm typing this from my desk, at Boeing, in the engineering department (and I don't eat twinkies). |
My mistake and that's cool. Boeing... Wow... Engineering... Sheesh...
Hey did Boeing ever publicly respond to the faulty design being the cause of the Flight 800 crash? Seeings how this is your neck of the woods, you probably know whether they did or not.
-Rick |
I deal only with military products. I'm sure you can search the internet for their response if you really want it.
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