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02/28/2006 01:35:25 PM · #201 |
GEEESH. LOL...
Ok, well, I am going to go and see if I can find that camera information first hand about digitals for that poster. At least that conversation is more poignant to the thread and I don't want them to feel like their questions were skirted. Let me see what I can find about that. It may benefit many on the thread, and even myself, since I don't know either! LOL...
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02/28/2006 01:35:59 PM · #202 |
.....if we ignore him will he go away? probably not but we can still ignore him.
OK! Back on topic! So Rose, There is no information about me on the internet, little in my profile. I would be interested to know your i guess "reading" would be for me. |
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02/28/2006 01:42:49 PM · #203 |
Originally posted by Kivet:
.....if we ignore him will he go away? probably not but we can still ignore him.
OK! Back on topic! So Rose, There is no information about me on the internet, little in my profile. I would be interested to know your i guess "reading" would be for me. |
Kivet, LOL...I am turning my back to profiles, and only looked at Jay's cause of the number 5. I quickly looked, saw nothing significant other than his name was Jason M, from Pawtucket and he signed on in May of 2005. I really felt that the 2005 was not significant, so I moved on to the TAPS forum about the camera info. That is when the 5K came to me and the address numbers. I had NO idea anything would be on the net that was similar to what I said, but that is just the way it happened. I can't help that.
In any case, I really don't read "people". I may get something small and stupid like a number, as I did with Jay, but certainly that is nothing to be freaking out about. I read photos, best I can. I have read some this morning in emails and some were spot on. Some are having evidence checked. Some are from those on this thread, and they can state what they want about the accuracy, but I won't speak for them. However, I am sorry, but I can't do a "reading" for you. I'm not that kind of psychic. I can sense spirits and entities physically, depending on where I am, and I can somehow pull things from photos, but that is about it. The number thing was really a fluke. LOL... Not the usual.
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02/28/2006 02:02:05 PM · #204 |
Okkk, well, back to the camera information, I found a site here that gives both the pros and cons of using a digital camera for paranormal research, NOT to remain one sided on the issue.
Evidently, and according to what I briefly read, it is better to use a higher end digital. One with more then less pixels. There is also something to be said for raw data in verification.
It goes on to state that digital cameras were frowned upon at first because they weren't that great in low light conditions, and that because you couldn't get a negative from them. Now things are different, and since has changed the writers mind.
When I have time, I will have to read the whole article myself. It is pretty interesting. In the meantime, it is at least a place to start when it comes to learning about digitals verses catching paranormal.
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02/28/2006 02:41:59 PM · #205 |
Thanks for the links to camera info, Rose. Unfortunately, there's no new information that supports the ability of regular cameras to do anything other than record normal light. It seems very clear that all of the "orb" images posted here are just showing dust caught in the flash. Makes for a "spirited" discussion though. :-)
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02/28/2006 02:45:23 PM · #206 |
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02/28/2006 02:55:36 PM · #207 |
Originally posted by PhilipDyer:
Thanks for the links to camera info, Rose. Unfortunately, there's no new information that supports the ability of regular cameras to do anything other than record normal light. It seems very clear that all of the "orb" images posted here are just showing dust caught in the flash. Makes for a "spirited" discussion though. :-) |
You're very welcome. I'm not sure that all the images here are not true orbs, but in the grand scheme of things, real orbs are just a type of energy. I would love to see actual phenomenon though and I believe I have in southern exposures pic. Also, Konandors. His intriques me. I wish his was taken to be analyzed. Not sure if he has done that, but it would be cool to find out the bottom line there. I tend to definately believe it is not paranormal, but would love to find out for sure.
Well, I just guess there isn't yet enough scientific explanation to prove or disprove what is happening in the paranormal. Maybe someday, but in the meantime, I guess some of us will just have to deal with what we have or just not believe it and move on.
Thanks for adding to the thread, and Bear, your discussion is quite interesting. I don't tend to get involved in religion and politics. LOL...Something I was taught in hairdressing school a long time ago was never to engage in religion and political conversations. I guess it stuck with me all these years...LOL.
Rose
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02/28/2006 03:03:39 PM · #208 |
Rose, I have read your responses to people as well as your "psychic" visions. The paranormal field has many people in it that find it interesting and therefore want to be "part" of it, even to the extent of gloriously elaborating stories and experiences that they, or those they know, have encountered. Unfortunately, all that does is to cast shadows over true investigations into paranormal activity. I cannot help but understand why there is a great majority that do not believe in the paranormal. There are so many "ghost experts" out there that claim to know what they are talking about, that It makes a joke out of the entire industry. I also think it can be potentially dangerous for the person who is exaggerating their abilities as they truly believe they have the ability to take on spirits, whether they be human or inhuman spirits.
I am no expert on this subject, I would never claim to be. My husband would not even claim to be even after working in this field for 20+ years. I have however seen a significant amount of video evidence collected during case studies that scare the bejeebies out of me. It is because of that, that I felt I needed to speak out and beg you not to turn this into a "rose knows all" thread because I think advice given out, without true knowledge can be dangerous if taken as fact by those who are curious and may find them in situations they cannot control.
As for orbs, which is what this thread was suppose to be about, there are very few examples that I have seen that could not be explained as a camera/film malfunction. There are a very small number that I have seen that I could not explain even if I tried but for the most part what people are seeing, in my humble opinion are dust particles/smoke/reflections and lightflares.
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02/28/2006 03:17:51 PM · #209 |
This is not a "rose knows all thread". This is a thread that has discussion on many facets by many people with various beliefs. I am just one of the posters.
In each of my posts I will always state "I believe" or "in my opinion" when I speak of things I am ignorant about. If I have had factual experiences, or know of something factually, I will state it as fact. However, that put aside, I am not the end all and be all of this thread. Many have participated. And certainly I haven't told anyone to go out and open up Ouija Boards or go on ghost hunts, etc. We are all adults here, hopefully. And hopefully others will go about deeper information than this thread before becoming involved in anything dangerous. I have not participated in directing anyone along that path by any means.
I don't understand your post when it comes to what you have seen that gave you the creeps but that you believe what is on this thread isn't real or just dust or smoke and mirrors? Is this because it is more distant than that of what your husband has shown you first hand? I don't understand that part. But thanks for your input.
I don't think anyone can say they are experts in this field. None of us are, however, I am sure your husband has caught phenomenon, just as I have seen, caught, and experienced them. We have all had our own experiences or are curious to hear of others and/or see others photos and discuss. That is the reason I am here anyway.
Rose
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02/28/2006 03:41:50 PM · #210 |
Originally posted by Rose8699:
This is not a "rose knows all thread". This is a thread that has discussion on many facets by many people with various beliefs. I am just one of the posters.
In each of my posts I will always state "I believe" or "in my opinion" when I speak of things I am ignorant about. If I have had factual experiences, or know of something factually, I will state it as fact. However, that put aside, I am not the end all and be all of this thread. Many have participated. And certainly I haven't told anyone to go out and open up Ouija Boards or go on ghost hunts, etc. We are all adults here, hopefully. And hopefully others will go about deeper information than this thread before becoming involved in anything dangerous. I have not participated in directing anyone along that path by any means.
I don't understand your post when it comes to what you have seen that gave you the creeps but that you believe what is on this thread isn't real or just dust or smoke and mirrors? Is this because it is more distant than that of what your husband has shown you first hand? I don't understand that part. But thanks for your input.
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I was referring to orb photographs. Most can easily be explained with camera malfunctions, smoke, dust (I don't believe I mentioned mirrors). I am not outwardly discounting them all, as I have seen some I have dificulty explaining but for the most part I believe a lot can be explained.
As far as what my husband has shown me, yes he has shown me things that made me feel physically ill and will remain with me forever but the thing that worries me is that most of the people who found themselves in that situation did so because they "invited" a spirit into their lives, unknowingly, without having the knowledge to protect themselves. They saw it as a bit of harmless fun or something interesting to play around with. I am not going to get into this with you simply because I do not believe it is healthy to give this subject any extra attention. Just please understand that what can start out as simple "messages" received doing a psychic reading can turn into something far more ugly.
Anyway, you will do what you feel best and believe what you choose to believe, so I am not really sure why I contributed. |
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02/28/2006 03:50:28 PM · #211 |
Rose8699 did you get my second email. I sent it late last night. I know you are probably being email left and right but if you get a chance please read and reply your thoughts.
Thanks,
-SDW
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02/28/2006 04:04:06 PM · #212 |
This is so funny. Thanks guys! |
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02/28/2006 04:11:18 PM · #213 |
Originally posted by southern_exposure:
Rose8699 did you get my second email. I sent it late last night. I know you are probably being email left and right but if you get a chance please read and reply your thoughts.
Thanks,
-SDW |
Everything that was in my email has been answered, and replied to. If it hasn't, then it wasn't received, but I replied to all of them? You may want to check your other folders and make sure I didn't get lost somewhere.
As for what troberge says, she is correct. I must have misunderstood her post and thought it was just directed at my own ignorance.
If you do NOT know what you are doing, DO NOT go forth with any kind of investigations, and I say this with great conviction. Certainly do NOT play with Ouija Boards, as they can invite in unwanted spirits when you think it will be perfectly harmless and fun. Learn much and seek much information before just venturing out thinking you will receive some kind of thrill. Even "I" don't go on ghost hunts. The photo I got of my orb just happened when I was taking a photo for a challenge around Halloween. I didn't go seeking it and haven't since. I don't go poking around in old buildings and I don't go calling out to spirits. LOL...
As for my readings, they are very general. I never seem to get anything mind boggling or ground breaking. I don't even claim, and never have, to be 100% accurate. Usually what I get is a past name, or past action, or maybe an outfit, or some association that can be verified of the properties involved, but nothing that is earth shattering or spooky. I am not on this thread to twist minds or cause mischief, nor are my readings ever done for that or for attention. I don't seek to read. I don't charge to read. I don't get involved at all in that unless asked, and I am very honest when I do it. If I get nothing, I will say nothing. If I get something, I will say so, no matter how trivial.
I am only here on this thread because this subject is interesting and intriquing to me and always has been. Any abilities I have are really secondary to the subject. I am not here to gather attention and massive emails. And I haven't had massive emails either. I have only had about 7 or so.
Hopefully, in each of us sharing our knowledge and experiences we can learn from each other. It just makes for interesting conversation, nothing more. I wouldn't expect a conversation about bungee jumping to cause some to want to try it without proper equipment and supervision. If anyone thinks they should ghost hunt or seek spirits, PLEASE do seek the proper equipment and supervision.
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02/28/2006 04:16:32 PM · #214 |
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Originally posted by southern_exposure:
Rose8699 did you get my second email. I sent it late last night. I know you are probably being email left and right but if you get a chance please read and reply your thoughts.
Thanks,
-SDW |
Everything that was in my email has been answered, and replied to. If it hasn't, then it wasn't received, but I replied to all of them? You may want to check your other folders and make sure I didn't get lost somewhere.
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Rose I just sent it to you in your email address not PM. I checked and it was sent last night but could not find a reply. Hope you receive this one. Thanks for your time.
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02/28/2006 04:20:24 PM · #215 |
Originally posted by southern_exposure:
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Originally posted by southern_exposure:
Rose8699 did you get my second email. I sent it late last night. I know you are probably being email left and right but if you get a chance please read and reply your thoughts.
Thanks,
-SDW |
Everything that was in my email has been answered, and replied to. If it hasn't, then it wasn't received, but I replied to all of them? You may want to check your other folders and make sure I didn't get lost somewhere.
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Rose I just sent it to you in your email address not PM. I checked and it was sent last night but could not find a reply. Hope you receive this one. Thanks for your time. |
Ok, yes. I just found it. Sorry, it was my own error. I had marked it as read. I answered it. You should have the email reply now. Sorry about that!
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02/28/2006 06:37:33 PM · #216 |
Originally posted by Sonifo:
This is so funny. Thanks guys! |
Agreed.
It's always funny when the loonies come out, heads wrapped in tinfoil, babbling about psycho.....erm psychic mind powers, astrology, numerology, spirits, ghosts, flesh-eating zombies or whatever whackaloon crap they've cooked up. |
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02/28/2006 06:39:39 PM · #217 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Sonifo:
This is so funny. Thanks guys! |
Agreed.
It's always funny when the loonies come out, heads wrapped in tinfoil, babbling about psycho.....erm psychic mind powers, astrology, numerology, spirits, ghosts, flesh-eating zombies or whatever whackaloon crap they've cooked up. |
WAIT a minute!! I want to hear about the zombies!! I must have missed that one! LOL....
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02/28/2006 06:42:49 PM · #218 |
Well, nevermind about the zombies. LOL...I can live without zombies. We know enough of those flesh eaters.
BUT, I think this thread has seen its time. Maybe some other time it will be able to regain discussion, but for now it is exhausted.
If anyone would like to keep in touch with me personally, you have the information in my profile and on the thread. We can always resume discussion elsewhere and at peace.
Thank you all! It has been very interesting and enlightening!!
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02/28/2006 06:50:03 PM · #219 |
| Wait Jay, I want to try! I see the word "cookie" and the term "barely18.com". Does this mean anything to you? Don't deny it now. I also see a two-year subscription to "maxim". Two years, yes, it's coming through very clearly... |
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02/28/2006 07:04:04 PM · #220 |
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Sonifo:
This is so funny. Thanks guys! |
Agreed.
It's always funny when the loonies come out, heads wrapped in tinfoil, babbling about psycho.....erm psychic mind powers, astrology, numerology, spirits, ghosts, flesh-eating zombies or whatever whackaloon crap they've cooked up. |
WAIT a minute!! I want to hear about the zombies!! I must have missed that one! LOL.... |
I guess you haven't been to this site?
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02/28/2006 07:08:07 PM · #221 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by Rose8699:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
Originally posted by Sonifo:
This is so funny. Thanks guys! |
Agreed.
It's always funny when the loonies come out, heads wrapped in tinfoil, babbling about psycho.....erm psychic mind powers, astrology, numerology, spirits, ghosts, flesh-eating zombies or whatever whackaloon crap they've cooked up. |
WAIT a minute!! I want to hear about the zombies!! I must have missed that one! LOL.... |
I guess you haven't been to this site? |
WOW! Very interesting!! I wonder if anyone will ever make a movie with them? Wouldn't that be cool? They could call it "Night of the Living Dead".
Night!
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02/28/2006 07:14:26 PM · #222 |
I have yet to see any respected scientist endorse this pseudoscience babbling nonsense as anything other than preposterous.
Let us see now.. who said this? Is the following scientist not respected? People should do more research before talking about things they may be a tad weak in explaining. Einstein even conducted his own studies into the paranormal.....
The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science." ~Albert Einstein
The great physicist took his own peep at the paranormal 74 years ago. What could have persuaded Einstein, harbinger of the scientific age, to attend the only séance of his life? What at the time was considered such an unscientific event.
Curiously enough, when Einstein was asked, years later, about his beliefs in the telepathic experiments of Dr. JB Rhine, then studying parapsychology at Duke University, he stressed his scepticism in strictly scientific terms.
Dr. JB Rhine's experiments had reported that psi-forces did not decline with distance, unlike the four known forces of nature — gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force and the weak force. ``This suggests to me a very strong indication that a non-recognised source of systematic errors may have been involved,''
Einstein wrote. Indeed it was scientific fallacies such as these, rather than drawing room seances, that could most reliably send a shiver up Einstein's spine.
When he was confronted with seemingly illogical phenomena in quantum mechanics — where particles appear to communicate instantaneously with each other — he chose to label it in terms more suited to one of Upton Sinclair's seances as ``spooky action-at-a-distance.''
MY 2 CENTS!
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02/28/2006 07:26:11 PM · #223 |
locking this thread due to lack of any meaningful discussion continuing on topic.
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02/28/2006 07:38:39 PM · #224 |
Originally posted by Truegsht:
I have yet to see any respected scientist endorse this pseudoscience babbling nonsense as anything other than preposterous.
Let us see now.. who said this? Is the following scientist not respected? People should do more research before talking about things they may be a tad weak in explaining. Einstein even conducted his own studies into the paranormal.....
The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science." ~Albert Einstein
The great physicist took his own peep at the paranormal 74 years ago. What could have persuaded Einstein, harbinger of the scientific age, to attend the only séance of his life? What at the time was considered such an unscientific event.
Curiously enough, when Einstein was asked, years later, about his beliefs in the telepathic experiments of Dr. JB Rhine, then studying parapsychology at Duke University, he stressed his scepticism in strictly scientific terms.
Dr. JB Rhine's experiments had reported that psi-forces did not decline with distance, unlike the four known forces of nature — gravity, electromagnetism, the strong force and the weak force. ``This suggests to me a very strong indication that a non-recognised source of systematic errors may have been involved,''
Einstein wrote. Indeed it was scientific fallacies such as these, rather than drawing room seances, that could most reliably send a shiver up Einstein's spine.
When he was confronted with seemingly illogical phenomena in quantum mechanics — where particles appear to communicate instantaneously with each other — he chose to label it in terms more suited to one of Upton Sinclair's seances as ``spooky action-at-a-distance.''
MY 2 CENTS! |
Is that what you would call an endorsement let alone a professional endorsement?
It's no more a respected science than what religion is. Like religion it is a belief and not a science. The language of science is math so where is the math that proves orbs = the dead? |
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