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Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO Macro Super for Canon

10/26/2005 01:28:58 AM · #26

A photo is a photo.

I hope people judge photos based on emotional content and not if they assume it hides something, the photographer couldn't get a "color shot" or some other criteria. If the photo has a voice, who cares how it happened.

But I understand that with hundreds of photos to look at, often people make snap judgements and look more for the faults rather than the interesting angles.

nemesise1977

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

10/26/2005 01:45:25 AM · #27

Originally posted by hokie:

Problem is the challange is light on white, using sepia or B&W or High Key ect dosent meet the challange in my opinion and the first criteria we aer told to vote on is if it meets the challange. Using High Key will usually blow the highlights, fails challange, sepia and b&w alter color charistics alot, the background could be bright yellow and you would never know, challange was to have a white one. I look at this as it is a photography challange not a photo editing challange.

But hey thats me, I took my shot and it aint doing great right now
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DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/26/2005 01:55:31 AM · #28

I think I may be turning off the voting this week...

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Can such a score climb to a 5.01? I will be crossing my fingers. Looking over the other pics though, I can't see how mine is too bad, unless the "nemesise method" of voting is pervasive...

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

10/26/2005 01:57:08 AM · #29

Originally posted by nemesise1977:

Well, I think the key words are "In your opinion". I can see where you are coming from but the challenge rules did not state this is a color challenge.

The difficulty is not getting color right...the difficulty is getting a photo worth looking at. I see lots of technically correct photos but they are often just repeating what has been done in coffee table books.

Hopefully there is equal room out there for photographers to produce
curious and obscure photos in addition to perfectly focused, color corrected and saturated photos. But I am sorta obscure and non-color corrected anyway :-D

Rikki

Canon EOS-20D

10/26/2005 01:59:54 AM · #30

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

My shot just went from 4.7 to 6.3 in seven votes. It's early yet.

Rikki can I guess which shot is yours? If I'm right it sure is worthy.

Oh Brennan you flatter me. But my shot is just one of these middle of the road I guess. I just got lucky for the first few votes :)

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

10/26/2005 02:05:09 AM · #31

I don't see anything in the challenge description that precludes B&W. In fact, I'd say it's technically MORE difficult to do light on white in B&W than it is in color. In B&W it's a LOT more difficult to render subtleties of bright values and still separate them, where with color the "light" component can be separated visually just BECAUSE it has a hint of color in it.

Robt.

nemesise1977

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO Macro Super for Canon

10/26/2005 02:05:11 AM · #32

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

I'll take that as a compliment...
You still have alot of time for the score to move up. ANd am sure yours will Doc, I like your work alot.

And Hokie take what I say with a grain of salt, if one were to compare our profiles and our past shots, they would easily see your the superior photographer, I am still learning.

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/26/2005 02:10:45 AM · #33

Originally posted by nemesise1977:

I'll take that as a compliment...

Don't worry, I wasn't busting on you. You can certainly vote any way you want. It just hadn't crossed my mind that it might be an issue and I changed mine to B&W even though the color was fairly light on white anyway.

Thanks for the vote of confidence...
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Rikki

Canon EOS-20D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

10/26/2005 02:13:45 AM · #34

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Thanks for the vote of confidence...
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The night is young my friend. Many weird things have happened to scores overnight. :D Mine was a last minute entry as well. As usual, done in the office for the lack of shooting time. Oh well :)

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/26/2005 02:21:27 AM · #35

Originally posted by rikki11:

The night is young my friend. Many weird things have happened to scores overnight.

Why do I do this? I just had to have one more look before I went to bed...yup...nailed with a 1!

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nemesise1977

Canon EOS-300D Rebel

Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO Macro Super for Canon

10/26/2005 02:21:28 AM · #36

Originally posted by rikki11:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Thanks for the vote of confidence...
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The night is young my friend. Many weird things have happened to scores overnight. :D Mine was a last minute entry as well. As usual, done in the office for the lack of shooting time. Oh well :)

So wanna see who took theirs later? Big procrastinator here, and I'm almost as bad as my wife ;)

EXIF data shows 19:47:32 10/25/2005 CST
dl to comp and completed post processing at 10:05 cst submitted very quickly after that :)

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Strikeslip

Canon EOS-5D

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

10/26/2005 06:00:53 AM · #37

SHOCKING RESULTS!!! :-O

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:-D

smilebig4me1x

Canon EOS-400D Rebel XTi

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

10/26/2005 06:00:58 AM · #38

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ok..ummm...I thought it was better than this(dont we all tho) both comments say EXACTLY what i thought they would :o( and Im trying soooo hard to break into the 6 realm again...I love my entry so according to that law written somewhere...its gonna tank!

edit to add: maybe the trolls hit the first night?

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Giorgio

Canon EOS-70D

Sigma 105mm f/2.8 Macro EX DG OS for Canon EF

10/26/2005 06:09:06 AM · #39

COMMENT PEOPLE!!! I'm new here and I want to learn alot, but it seems that i get a low score and I don't know why?Please comment just a few words when u vote. Thank you!

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

10/26/2005 08:20:01 AM · #40

Hey nemesise1977, please don't let my response to you be taken as anything but open discussion of photographic and artistic thought.

The cool thing about this sight and photography is there are no black and white answers (pun intended). My biggest challenge when I first came to this site was to loosen up about my photography and not take too much stock in scoring. Things like soft focus, heavy contrast, grain or other techniques that may take your score down in the eyes of the general voter can be the very technique that allows you to express yourself the most.

We all hope (myself included) that people like our efforts. The only thing I think a photographer should worry about is whether they feel they are getting what they need from their experiences and these challenges are a great way to grow and share ideas.

Now lets all get in here and have a group hug :-D ....lol

LeeD

Canon EOS-30D

10/26/2005 08:23:08 AM · #41

Well, I'm glad to see I'm in good company! Does it seem that the scoring is AWFULLY low? You think the voters know what "Light on White" means? Maybe they're looking for an actual light, or light bulb, or ray of light on a white background!

Jutilda

Canon EOS-7D

Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro for Canon

10/26/2005 08:40:33 AM · #42

Originally posted by hokie:

Hey nemesise1977, please don't let my response to you be taken as anything but open discussion of photographic and artistic thought.

The cool thing about this sight and photography is there are no black and white answers (pun intended). My biggest challenge when I first came to this site was to loosen up about my photography and not take too much stock in scoring. Things like soft focus, heavy contrast, grain or other techniques that may take your score down in the eyes of the general voter can be the very technique that allows you to express yourself the most.

clap clap clap!! Well said.

Oh and by the way, During the night, the anchor around my ankle fell off the dock and I'm sinking...........................

We all hope (myself included) that people like our efforts. The only thing I think a photographer should worry about is whether they feel they are getting what they need from their experiences and these challenges are a great way to grow and share ideas.

Now lets all get in here and have a group hug :-D ....lol

Pug-H

Pentax K10D

Sigma 28-80mm f/3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF for Pentax

10/26/2005 08:41:23 AM · #43

Well, mine was just above 7 for a short while, now it's just under 6 :-(

Anyway, the really good thing is that one commenter said it at least deserves a ribbon (paraphrasing a bit, there).

Jutilda

Canon EOS-7D

Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro for Canon

10/26/2005 08:43:03 AM · #44

I must've posted that weird. My comment was in the center, in italics...... I think I'll go drink some more coffee.

Your sinking friend

sabphoto

Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+

10/26/2005 08:47:30 AM · #45

Originally posted by bear_music:

Good point, I was a little dissapointed and worried when I saw that the winners in this challenge last time where pretty much b/w. I was mad thinking that they didn't meet the challenge of "light" color but have since reconsidered this and think they did a good job.

Mine on the other hand will probably not be considered a light enough color. I did attempt to shoot something different and this was way beyond anything I've ever done on so many different levels but still sitting at an even 4.0 with 2 comments. (I have faith that it will rise in the last day, they always seem to)

ace flyman

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

10/26/2005 09:33:19 AM · #46

I knew it, if anyone was going to have more fun than me it would be slippy...your rock dude......lol

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Originally posted by Strikeslip:

SHOCKING RESULTS!!! :-O

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Leighroy

Canon EOS-20D

Tamron AF 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 XR Di II for Canon

10/26/2005 09:45:38 AM · #47

Originally posted by ace flyman:

I knew it, if anyone was going to have more fun than me it would be slippy...your rock dude......lol

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Originally posted by Strikeslip:
SHOCKING RESULTS!!! :-O

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that blew this challenge!

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I knew mine was going to stink, but I didn't realise it would *STINK*! I'm a little upset though - I thought it was site policy that you must include a comment on les than 3.. "If you feel a photograph deserves a vote of 1, 2 or 3, please include a comment with your vote explaining why you felt it deserved a "below average" score". I do for all the ones that I vote below 3 - do we think this rule should be enforced or would that just lead to comments like "you suck", "boring photo" etc etc?