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05/27/2003 12:42:02 AM · #1 |
Agonised over the decision this week. Wasn't it a lot of fun, though? B/W is my favourite type of shooting. I skipped the latest colour challenges. I've been playing with swapping colour channels before converting to greyscale, and with my new F717 I'm really, really enjoying the results. I'm interested in getting film-like results out of my camera. This was a simple, offhand candid and turned into something more. I find that the F717's exposures in cloudy weather are outstanding compared to my older S50. The original's exposure is flatter but I played with things, and at the expense of the t-shirt, got some great tones. I actually like the blown t-shirt's texture, too.
Thoughts?
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05/27/2003 09:12:28 AM · #2 |
It is a good shot. you got the right angle. I always have a hard
time with the nose and cheek becoming one. You did good. The tones
are great. The shirt really isnt that blown out. I love the expression
she has. I bet she is mad at her kids. hahahha
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05/27/2003 09:17:03 AM · #3 |
| I like it as a black and white but don't particularly care for the composition... in my humble opinion, the empty space needs to be on the right side of the frame since your subject is looking to the right... that's just one of those minor 'bugs' that i hear about over and over at my camera club :) |
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05/27/2003 09:21:52 AM · #4 |
I think the non standard composition makes this work if at all. She's looking pensive/ annoyed/ worried. This tension is enhanced by her looking out of the frame, away from the open space, into the unknown. With more space on the right you'd lose the constrained feel and probably any mood that the shot might have.
Don't much like the blown out t-shirt though - some selective masking could preserve at least some more detail there...
Here's a more traditional composition of the same shot - does it have as much tension ? (hopefully without offending James..)
Message edited by author 2003-05-27 09:32:17. |
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05/27/2003 09:24:29 AM · #5 |
'Needs to be' - well, as long as what you're after is a complete-in-itself photograph. Having the subject look out of frame near side is a powerful technique IMO - it adds context, but in a very indistinct way: it says to me 'something is going on over there', and that you have chosen NOT to show that something - instead concentrating on the subject's reaction. The point is, it doesn't name the fear/interst/annoyance/object of concern - which in way makes that fear/interest/annoyance/object of concern the more powerful.
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05/27/2003 09:26:27 AM · #6 |
Ok so I'm in opposition to the notable Mr. Setzler :) but in my humble opinion. I think the composition is fitting, given the position of the subject. Also the composition and expression leave a question in the viewers mind, making it that much more intriguing.
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05/27/2003 09:52:12 AM · #7 |
| IMHO the original composition is more effective as well. Nice shot. |
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05/27/2003 09:56:50 AM · #8 |
I also like the first one better. Maybe a little more to the right of her would be nice.
Message edited by author 2003-05-27 09:57:58.
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05/27/2003 10:10:09 AM · #9 |
| My thoughts on it are that the extension of her right arm leads you into the picture to find her face filled with natural and concerned expressions. I completely missed the negative space at my first look, so it is true negative. If she didn't have such a natural expression on her face to tell you "something is going on over there" then it would be less powerful. Somehow I got the feeling that she is in a rowboat, which could be all the more reason for her concern. Don't ask how I got that feeling but I did! The only real problem is the T shirt, but it's not that bad. Good job |
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05/27/2003 10:11:56 AM · #10 |
I have to disagree with Setzler also. I also like the original crop/composition. But then again everything is subjective and remember rules are made to be broken.
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05/27/2003 10:30:26 AM · #11 |
Thanks for the comments, all. Here's the unedited (but resized and downsampled) original as a comparison. It's a much different look. It shows how the manipulation can bring out an expression. I liked the composition as it is for it made you think about what was going on, but as I was shooting it I wished she was looking in the other direction so that I could get a more classic shot. It wasn't a posed shot. I was thinking the thoughts that John had. Still, I like the result. I could preserve the t-shirt with non-DPC legla methods, but as I thought it might go into the challenge I kept it blown.
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05/27/2003 08:35:05 PM · #12 |
She doesn't look quite as mad now. Wow what a difference color can make.
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05/28/2003 12:51:17 AM · #13 |
| I'm just wondering. How did you get here face to turn the other way. In the original, she is looking to her right and on the B&W her face is turned to her left. |
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05/28/2003 01:22:34 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by Musicman:
I'm just wondering. How did you get here face to turn the other way. In the original, she is looking to her right and on the B&W her face is turned to her left. |
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05/28/2003 01:29:02 AM · #15 |
| What a difference indeed! I like the B/W one, it gives much more expression. But, on the color she doesn't look as angry as on the B/W one. |
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