Adobe Announces it will be Cloud Only...

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG HSM for Nikon

05/07/2013 09:51:18 AM · #76

im hoping everyone refuses this model and sticks with their CS version and when adobe realizes that no one is buying the subscriptions they will drop this bad idea.

bohemka

Nikon D700

05/07/2013 09:55:56 AM · #77

Originally posted by kirbic:

The biggest frustration here, for me anyway, is that a reasonable subscription system can and should provide value for both the publisher and the customer. But this is not a reasonable system.

This is how I feel as well. I certainly see it from Adobe's perspective, but it's a jarring transition for customers on my level of use.

I consider Photoshop a tool that I have purchased, and it's in my drawer to use on my photography. For it to be a subscription service in a client-server relationship, where users are herded along... does not compute for me. Technically it is software, but this model makes no sense to me. Compounding this is the ridiculous pricing structure.

I only purchased CS6 within the past six months in what was a major expense and upgrade for me. I bought the books, I watch tutorials, I was streamlining my workflow. I was on board. Now I'm already looking for an alternative. That's sad.

This is a significant event in digital photography and editing. More people pick up digital photography every day, and "Photoshop" is the "Xerox" of editing, and then they lop off their entire amateur, hobbyist and entry-level market. Bizarre.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

05/07/2013 10:43:33 AM · #78

Originally posted by Mike:

im hoping everyone refuses this model and sticks with their CS version and when adobe realizes that no one is buying the subscriptions they will drop this bad idea.

Not going to happen. "Since it introduced the service last year, Adobe added more than half a million paying Creative Cloud subscribers and two million users who subscribe to its free services. As Adobeâ��s David Wadhwani noted in todayâ��s keynote, there is no doubt in his mind that Creative Suite is the right direction for the company." We can stamp our little feet and refuse to pay all we want, but someone else will pay and that's all Adobe cares about. No more worries about pirated software. And since they'll be making twice as much from the people that subscribe they can lose half their customers and still come out even. But rest assured, they will make a ton of money.

Canon EF 28-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM

05/07/2013 10:50:23 AM · #79

well CS5 should do me a few more years until i find an alternative i'm comfortable with.

Kelli

Canon EOS-D60

05/07/2013 10:53:35 AM · #80

Originally posted by Mike:

well CS5 should do me a few more years until i find an alternative i'm comfortable with.

+1

I've used PSPX (still have it but don't use it), and it's much more affordable anyway.

05/07/2013 10:59:11 AM · #81

Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by Mike:
im hoping everyone refuses this model and sticks with their CS version and when adobe realizes that no one is buying the subscriptions they will drop this bad idea.

Not going to happen. "Since it introduced the service last year, Adobe added more than half a million paying Creative Cloud subscribers and two million users who subscribe to its free services. As Adobeâ��s David Wadhwani noted in todayâ��s keynote, there is no doubt in his mind that Creative Suite is the right direction for the company." We can stamp our little feet and refuse to pay all we want, but someone else will pay and that's all Adobe cares about. No more worries about pirated software. And since they'll be making twice as much from the people that subscribe they can lose half their customers and still come out even. But rest assured, they will make a ton of money.

How sure are you about this "No more worries" thing?

Seems to me that games have been using this same authentication strategy for a while now, and yet they still are subject to piracy.

I think that's just another excuse, mostly this is just about bilking the customer, and I expect this should work pretty well in that regard.

05/07/2013 11:01:20 AM · #82

But there again i,ve never worn flip flops,Love the weather here.

05/07/2013 11:07:37 AM · #83

Originally posted by Tiny:

But there again i,ve never worn flip flops,Love the weather here.

And as it is I've never worn wooden clogs,Love the terrain here.

05/07/2013 11:09:32 AM · #84

Hey me neither,what a co co !

05/07/2013 11:10:56 AM · #85

Couldn't spell coincidence.

05/07/2013 11:13:39 AM · #86

Originally posted by Cory:

exactly, they will never get rid of piracy, the only way to do that is to go 100% cloud based web app where you log into their server, and our internet infrastructure is not able to nor i think will be able to handle the demands of Photoshop for sometime.

so long you download and install, you will be able to get a serial for, crack and firewall block. this will only encourage more piracy.

05/07/2013 11:14:39 AM · #87

ROFL

Tiny.

I seriously have no idea what to make of you man.

Cheers, and do have a good day :)

05/07/2013 11:15:28 AM · #88

Originally posted by Mike:

this will only encourage more piracy.

05/07/2013 11:21:26 AM · #89

Originally posted by Cory:

ROFL Tiny.

I seriously have no idea what to make of you man.

Cheers, and do have a good day :)

Thanks and you enjoy yourself too.

Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L IS USM

05/07/2013 11:35:03 AM · #90

are they still going to offer elements? standalone or subscription based?

theluissales

Canon EOS R7

05/07/2013 11:43:59 AM · #91

There's an interesting FAQ about this at Kelby's blog.

sjhuls

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

05/07/2013 11:45:56 AM · #92

Originally posted by Mike:

are they still going to offer elements? standalone or subscription based?

I don't know I wish I could find something out about this. I currently just have elements and really it's all that I need. I know there are a few things that I cant do mainly with distortion of an image. But now that I have the full NIK package to go with it I've even got a good curves tool so I am not missing that anymore. If they are leaving Elements out of this then I think I will just stick with elements.

sfalice

Canon PowerShot SX60 HS

05/07/2013 11:52:16 AM · #93

the very fine print on this morning's email announcement for students reads as below.
I thought it would be easier to read if I copied it here...
I am especially fascinated by the fact that there is a 30 day trial, after that, cancellation will cost 50% of contract amount.

Adobe
Announcing the latest versions of Adobe creative tools. Join now
Join now at 60% off for students and teachers.*

US$49.99 US$19.99/mo. for the first 12 monthsâ�¡

* "60% off" denotes the difference between the full commercial price of US$49.99/month (for annual commitment) and the limited-time US$19.99/month (12-month contract) offer for Students and Teachers.

â� Internet connection and Adobe ID required. Adobe services, like the Adobe Creative Cloud service, are available only to users 13 and older. Use of services and applications requires agreement to additional terms and Adobe's privacy policy (see //www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/legal.html). Applications and services may not be available in all countries or languages and may be subject to change or discontinuation without notice. Additional fees or membership charges may apply.

â�¡ US$19.99/month Adobe Creative Cloud Offer
For a limited time, eligible Students and Teachers can purchase an annual membership to Adobe Creative Cloud for a reduced price of US$19.99/month for the first year. Offer valid for purchases of an annual plan, which requires a 12-month contract. Offer available in the United States and Canada, excluding Quebec. This offer is only available to eligible education customers who purchase directly from the Adobe Store or by calling Adobe Sales. This offer is not available to OEM, commercial, or volume licensing customers. This offer is valid from May 6, 2013, until June 25, 2013. This offer is limited to one (1) purchase of one (1) Creative Cloud annual membership per customer. Offer may not be assigned, exchanged, sold, transferred, or combined with any other discount or offer, or redeemed for cash or other goods and services. This offer and prices are subject to change without notice. Void where prohibited, taxed, or restricted by law.

Billing Terms for Annual Membership
Annual plan â�� US$19.99/month with a one-year contract.

Payment
Youâ��re signing up for a one-year plan. Each month, during that one year, weâ��ll bill your credit card US$19.99/month including tax. As soon as youâ��ve successfully completed this sign-up process and your payment is confirmed, your membership will begin.

Renewal
This promotional price is valid for the first 12 months. After that, weâ��ll renew your contract automatically, at the standard annual plan price (currently at US$29.99/month), unless you cancel. The price is subject to change, but we will always notify you beforehand.

Cancellation
Weâ��d hate to see you go, but if you cancel within the first 30 days, weâ��ll give you a full refund. Otherwise, youâ��ll be billed 50% of your remaining contract obligation. If you ever need to cancel, just call Customer Support: 800-585-0774.

Message edited by author 2013-05-07 12:22:34.

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

05/07/2013 11:57:54 AM · #94

the contract obligation is probably the monthly fee. seems fair.

scarbrd

Leica M10

05/07/2013 11:59:44 AM · #95

Just to clear up a couple of things mentioned early on in the tread:

1. You don't need to be on-line all the time. It checks for an active subscription once a month. So you can work off line as long as you connect to the internet at some point in 30 day intervals.

2. It's not "cloud based" per se. It is a stand alone application like all previous versions. You won't be working in a browser. and, again, you can work off line.

3. Your files will still work in older versions or other applications if your subscription expires.

I'm not crazy about the solution, but I will probably give it a try.

I bought the CS 2 Suite. Upgraded it to CS 4, but now I only want to upgrade Photoshop.

Adobe won't let me. I have to upgrade the suite or buy the full standalone version of Photoshop.

$19 per month is doable for just photoshop, I guess.

scarbrd

Leica M10

Leica 35mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical MF - Black

05/07/2013 12:00:13 PM · #96

Originally posted by Mike:

the contract obligation is probably the monthly fee. seems fair.

One year commitment, billed monthly, according to Adobe.