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05/08/2013 01:00:08 PM · #176
DPReview link (yeah I know)

I am less concerned about the other crap cause I don't need PS much at all and I certainly don't use the rest of the suite for web stuff (prob great value for those that use it all)....

Around LR specifically: This bit raises my eyebrow... bend zee needs is how I read it :-/ At some point these features will effectively kill the buy model for LR IMO (if they just don't kill it in the near future after LR5 anyway).
Bryan O'Neil Hughes - Lightroom is for photographers. And the Lightroom team is very aware of the reaction by photographers to Photoshop CC. We don't have plans to make Lightroom a subscription-only option but we do envision added functionality for CC members using Lightroom.
05/08/2013 01:23:03 PM · #177
So, first we get the word that we must buy CS5 to be able to upgrage to to CS6 after a certain date, then they turn around and decide that was not enough of a revenue generator that they needed to make it a continuous pay proposition.

My hope is that Corel, or one of the others, will decide to make a heavyweight editor. As is, Corel can use the CS plug-ins.

Suddenly the Steve Jobs approach to Adobe looks better and better.
05/08/2013 01:25:44 PM · #178
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by scarbrd:


The way I read it is it checks every 30 days and cuts you off after 99 days if you never contact the mother ship. I would imagine if you can pay for a full year up front, it wouldn't check for a full year. Not sure on that one though.


I don't interpret it that way. It seems to me that if you pay monthly, it will cut you off immediately after 30 days of being unable to phone home. If you pay annually, that time is lengthened to 99 days.


Could be, but why would they care if you paid a year in advance to check in after 4 months into the contract? There's no way you could be out of compliance, right?

I also don't understand why some are concerned about the 3rd party plug-ins having to have multiple products. If the app behaves the same way as a perpetual license app in that it is installed on your computer, what would the plug-in folks have to do differently to support CC?
05/08/2013 01:37:55 PM · #179
Originally posted by scarbrd:


I also don't understand why some are concerned about the 3rd party plug-ins having to have multiple products. If the app behaves the same way as a perpetual license app in that it is installed on your computer, what would the plug-in folks have to do differently to support CC?


The problem is that Adobe changes the interfaces that the plugins have to use with alarming regularity. Plugins that worked with CS2 don't work with CS3, etc. The plugin developers typically support whatever the latest version is. So eventually, CC will change the interface, the plugin developers will likely change their plugins, then the plugins won't work anymore with CS6.
05/08/2013 01:42:19 PM · #180
I AM SHOCKED AND CHAGRINED! MORTIFIED AND STUPIFIED! Creative Cloud is OUTRAGEOUS!
05/08/2013 01:43:10 PM · #181
Take a look at the hundreds of graphics apps in the App Store, most you'll pay there is $14.99, and you get to own it.

At some stage Adobe needed to make a decision; go with the cheap-volume-sales model of the App Store and target hobbyists, or go with premium-subscription-model and target enterprise.

They've obviously gone with the latter. Also, subscription offers continuous revenue stream versus once-off revenue from the App Store model.
05/08/2013 01:52:44 PM · #182
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I AM SHOCKED AND CHAGRINED! MORTIFIED AND STUPIFIED! Creative Cloud is OUTRAGEOUS!


Simmer down, Jackie!
05/08/2013 02:03:24 PM · #183
Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I AM SHOCKED AND CHAGRINED! MORTIFIED AND STUPIFIED! Creative Cloud is OUTRAGEOUS!

Simmer down, Jackie!

I'll bet you heard Jackie Chiles in your head when you read that.
05/08/2013 02:17:51 PM · #184
Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

I AM SHOCKED AND CHAGRINED! MORTIFIED AND STUPIFIED! Creative Cloud is OUTRAGEOUS!

Simmer down, Jackie!

I'll bet you heard Jackie Chiles in your head when you read that.


The mortified and stupified brought it all back like it was yesterday... :)
05/08/2013 02:38:42 PM · #185
Apologies if I missed this, but did someone say that Adobe would release an update to CS6? Because there are new features being shown in CC and I wonder if they would be available as a last upgrade for CS6? Link here
05/08/2013 02:56:24 PM · #186
Originally posted by NewtoNikon:

Apologies if I missed this, but did someone say that Adobe would release an update to CS6? Because there are new features being shown in CC and I wonder if they would be available as a last upgrade for CS6? Link here


They said no.
05/08/2013 02:58:43 PM · #187
Ah. Thanks.
05/08/2013 04:10:07 PM · #188
They'll release an update to CS6 after about 18 months of the Creative Cloud failing. It will come with a lot of hoopla that Adobe, in an ever increasing search for synergy, has announced it will support both permanent licensing options AND the creative cloud. Then 12 months after that they will quietly announce the death of the Creative Cloud.

That's the way I see (hope) it going down anyway...
05/08/2013 04:27:31 PM · #189
That makes a lot of sense. From the bigger business perspective and those who want every application there, that's a great way to go. For the individual and individual application permanent is best.

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

It will come with a lot of hoopla that Adobe, in an ever increasing search for synergy, has announced it will support both permanent licensing options AND the creative cloud.
05/08/2013 04:46:05 PM · #190
Originally posted by scarbrd:


Could be, but why would they care if you paid a year in advance to check in after 4 months into the contract? There's no way you could be out of compliance, right?

That's because you are assuming that people actually PAY the whole year in advance. The way I understand it, that is not what Adobe is talking about. I believe they mean having a CONTRACT for one year (which you still pay monthly for).
05/08/2013 09:06:01 PM · #191
Even Hitler isn't a fan!
05/08/2013 09:09:52 PM · #192
Koolaid Drinking Fanboy!

Although, I figured he'd invade Adobe....

Originally posted by MarkB:

Even Hitler isn't a fan!


Message edited by author 2013-05-08 21:13:05.
05/08/2013 09:19:15 PM · #193
The department I work for signed a three year contract with Adobe last year. I wonder what's going to happen in this case...
05/08/2013 09:21:39 PM · #194
Damn! I thought I was going to be first to post the Hitler Meme! Well played, Mark. Well played.
05/08/2013 09:31:40 PM · #195
Originally posted by MarkB:

Even Hitler isn't a fan!

That was too funny - it just about did my head in.

I speak German, and my brain was having a hellish time listening to the audio and reading totally unrelated "translations" at the same time! LOL
05/08/2013 10:44:25 PM · #196
Well you could always switch to ACDSee Pro. I've used it for about 5 years and whilst I'll admit the earlier versions had a few bugs, the Pro 4 I'm currently using (and presumably later versions) seems to be bug free and does everthing most folks would ever be likely to want. Worth a download of the free trial. :)
05/08/2013 11:03:25 PM · #197
Originally posted by MarkB:

Even Hitler isn't a fan!

bzzzt.... bzzzt... cognitive dissonance overload..... bzzzt.
05/09/2013 01:17:53 AM · #198
//scottkelby.com/2013/my-take-on-adobes-announcements-yesterday-at-the-max-conference/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Been thinking about it. At $20/30 (rounded off) I really do not think Photoshop CC is that much of an issue for most. It is one decent steak here in Korea and the Internet is superb... If I need it, depending what it offers, I will get it. This is, unfortunately, the way the world is going.
05/09/2013 02:46:08 PM · #199
Adobe down about 3% today (so far). Though the articles I've seen paint it as a boon to both customers and Adobe (mainly because they're comparing the price of the software if you bought it new today versus a subscription), investors aren't buying into it.
05/09/2013 02:52:28 PM · #200
Originally posted by Neil:

Adobe down about 3% today (so far). Though the articles I've seen paint it as a boon to both customers and Adobe (mainly because they're comparing the price of the software if you bought it new today versus a subscription), investors aren't buying into it.

May be a good stock buying opportunity if it keeps going down, then Adobe smartens up about CC later.

ETA... scratch that. I've sworn off software companies.

Message edited by author 2013-05-09 15:08:32.
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