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11/28/2012 11:28:55 PM · #301 |
Originally posted by MNet:
Just discovered this:
"Last updated: August 6, 2003."
On the FAQ page:
//www.dpchallenge.com/help_faq.php
Is this the last time any significant changes were made? |
Think of it this way... You are getting a 2003 experience, but you are only paying 2003 prices!
In 2003, gasoline was $1.73 a gallon. If DPC had followed the same trend, membership would be $50 a year. See, not so bad... |
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11/28/2012 11:34:19 PM · #302 |
Langdon, PLEASE... I love this place! It's what has educated me to be who I am in the photographic realm. That's not much to The Realm... but it's a BUNCH to me and my family.
I want this place to succeed. VERY MUCH
But... if there's a year-old message as a greeting to newcomers... well... I don't see them thinking we're serious here.
Please... PLEASE... either hire someone who has time to make this site what you dreamed it could be... or... MAKE IT BE THAT... YOURSELF!
If neither of those works... please, please, please don't let this site die. Your vision... your dream... for inspiring up and coming photographers.. .like... Joey... (THAT should be your pride and joy... Someone who started here... and MADE IT!! can say... he started HERE!)
Or... maybe... me... or my kid... or ... YOU... or YOUR KID...
Please don't let this site die because you're busy.
I KNOW how busy you are... I've lived that.
But, if you're too busy and... this site is dying due to inattention.... (which I fear that it is)... PLEASE do something.
Don't let it die... all of the people's dreams die that would have flourished if this site had been there for them as it was for me... (no... I'm not a superstar, but ... I am a person. I'm a person who... launched a photograph career from DPC... that YOU started.
How many people won't make it because... your site's people (who are my friends, you know) aren't here anymore for them, because you just... did... nothing... and allowed this site to slowly... drift off into... nothingness instead of ... giving YOUR dream... to THEM!
Why not continue making dreams come true??? Why not give everyone else that comes here what I got when I got here, Langdon?
I beg you. Truly.
Please... either live the dream here... hire someone to provide the dream here... or sell this to someone who has the vision that you had when you first started.
Am I offering to buy this? No... I can't do that. But, there are people who would here... I'm sure of it.
You have started a BEAST of a motivator ... an inspiration...
I've dreamed it... felt it... lived it... and used it... to make myself a "real" photographer. All... because of you and Drew.
I wish I could tell you in person... all of the people who tell me everyday... how much I've done for them... especially the mothers of HS guys... They don't want to have their portraits shot... but, they come for their mother... and then... because of this site... I change their mind.
One at a time.
Every time.
YOU did that, Langdon.
YOU did that.
You made me comfortable.
You did that.
Don't make it end by your busyness. I KNOW you're busy. I was busy at your age, too.
But... there are people who need the people you're inspiring with this site.
Don't let them down.
I don't beg often... but... I beg you, Langdon.
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11/28/2012 11:41:36 PM · #303 |
| I'd be happy to pay $50 for a well run up-to-date site based on the DPC model but I am not sure I want to pay $25 for a retro experience with more and more frequent problems caused by neglect and lack of interest. |
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11/28/2012 11:52:33 PM · #304 |
Originally posted by MNet:
I'd be happy to pay $50 for a well run up-to-date site based on the DPC model but I am not sure I want to pay $25 for a retro experience with more and more frequent problems caused by neglect and lack of interest. |
I agree. I'd pay more for a well-run site than for a ... non-well run site. |
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11/28/2012 11:54:40 PM · #305 |
This is really sad to see how this is traumatizing so many users.
Consider the following;
- The site council appears to be completely hands off.
- Errors are increasing with greater frequency.
- Attempts have been made to purchase the site and have been refused.
- Langdon still visits the site with no interaction.
I'm thinking the lights will be out on the 21st of December. The last monumental .... screw you.
Better find an Island and start sharing email addresses.
Sorry but how much clearer does it have to get? |
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11/28/2012 11:57:05 PM · #306 |
Let us see what Langdon actually says... instead of what we think he'll say.
I'm betting on Langdon.
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11/29/2012 12:14:36 AM · #307 |
I wonder if any of you guys read this before. I found it on the internet and I think even back in February it was evident that he needed a break. Please take the time to read this if you don't already have.
LANGDON X DOT COM
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Feb 15th, 2012 8:49 PM, 3 comments
Time is still the thing I value most in life, and I have still have shit luck with it. Given the limited amount of free time I find myself with lately, I'm having to really choose wisely when prioritizing the million things I need, want, and like to do in life. That's why I haven't written anything here in a year -- the less interesting things just don't make the cut. =/
I've read two articles recently that were extremely enlightening as far as understanding myself better....
(1) Science Behind a Bad Mood -- In a nutshell, I often find myself in a not-so-great mood, and what I took from the article helped me to understand why that might be. I frequently find myself sacrificing time to do things that are in support of others and not something I would prioritize myself. This can be extremely frustrating, and perhaps the reason why I find myself grumpy a lot. =[
(2) Working Memory Makes Time Fly -- This is a bit more difficult to explain briefly, but I think I have really good working memory. Ever since I was a kid I always thought time flew by so fast, and now as an adult, I feel it even more so. I also surprise myself sometimes by what I'm capable of recalling when I'm troubleshooting something software-related. I get really entranced in my work and am able to deeply focus on it such that if I've seen code behave a certain way at least one time, it's somehow committed to memory nearly indefinitely. This is surprising because if I don't put something in its "normal place" (wallet, keys, glasses), 30 minutes later I usually have no idea where it is. I'm not sure if I would give up the kind of memory I have for the kind I don't.
All that said, for my own edification next year, here's what's at the top of my priority list right now:
Write codes: Namely for dpchallenge.com, but also less for sf4tube.com and other pet projects.
Play games: A list of the 10 best games I played last year.
Family time: Doing fun stuff with Chase, and trying to make Sharon happy when I can.
House stuff: A total time sink, and rarely rewarding. I'm sadly too cheap to pay anyone to do anything I can do myself.
And some things that consistently don't make the cut:
Writing a Letter: I've been promising my grandparents a letter for 5 months now, and even printed pictures out to send them, but I have yet put pen to paper. I may have to cop out, type one up, and print it out. My penmanship is terrible these days.
Music: I can't remember the last time I learned a new song on the piano, and I haven't cracked the case of my guitar since I moved in October
Movies: I love movies much, but I can't justify the time to watch them by myself, so I only watch them when my Mom comes to visit.
Television: Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be caught dead channel surfing, but I do try to take some time to take in a good show every once in a while. I managed to catch Game of Thrones late last year and am excited to see the new season, but I'm way behind on other shows (Dexter, Justified, Modern Family) and don't want to think about adding anything new (Breaking Bad, Community).
Photography: I did a little photo shoot with Chase in the front yard the other week. I miss it.
Learning: I'd love to learn Japanese. I'd love to go to a technology school for a year or two and learn how to fix cars.
Blogging: duh
There are probably another 25 things I could add to this list that, to no surprise, aren't coming to mind at the moment. I feel like if I could somehow retire at 35, I'd be able to accomplish all the things I want to accomplish and be content, but that's probably not the case.
Message edited by author 2012-11-29 00:15:13. |
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11/29/2012 12:16:11 AM · #308 |
Me thinks peeps are working each other up.
All of us that has been here for a few years agree that this site used to be greatest thing, right? and;
all of us agree that not much has changed since then, right?
So how could the site now be so bad that people seem traumatized over the horrible treatment of the site they "once loved"?
All that have changed is the people, and well.... yeah: the times. I agree that the site could've received more TLC than it has. But $25 bucks?? I'm thinking a few folks around here MIGHT expect a wee bit more than they should given the context.
Errors should be taken care of; agreed. Things should be done, agreed. BUT nothing that I lose sleep over. |
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11/29/2012 12:26:04 AM · #309 |
Reading what Langdon wrote it is pretty clear he needs to learn to delegate and let go. That would free some of his time.
PS It also looks that he needs a business manager. He sees DPC as a coding exercise, not as a business. That could explain a lot.
Message edited by author 2012-11-29 00:45:38. |
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11/29/2012 01:05:39 AM · #310 |
Originally posted by TrollMan:
Me thinks peeps are working each other up.
All of us that has been here for a few years agree that this site used to be greatest thing, right? and;
all of us agree that not much has changed since then, right?
So how could the site now be so bad that people seem traumatized over the horrible treatment of the site they "once loved"?
All that have changed is the people, and well.... yeah: the times. I agree that the site could've received more TLC than it has. But $25 bucks?? I'm thinking a few folks around here MIGHT expect a wee bit more than they should given the context.
Errors should be taken care of; agreed. Things should be done, agreed. BUT nothing that I lose sleep over. |
Plus,plus.
This is a good point -- the site hasn't changed in years, and the $25 is still $25. True, other photo sites have sprung up but what originally drew me to DPC were the challenges, then I met some cool people along the way. Then life got in the way and DPC took a backseat.
This site has the best voting structure for photo challenges of any others that I've explored (can't stand the "get all your friends to vote and make me popular" way of competing). Is the design of the site tired and due for a makeover? Yes, but the site is still the same nuts and bolts that tied everyone in knots and gave us carpal finger syndrome from hitting the update button all week long.
The photo site scene is crowded and DPC doesn't stand out any longer, and doesn't have enough influx of users/members to make up for those who have moved on(cue eulogy music for kiwiness, librodo, arnit, falc, ursula, sjcarter, terje, soup, hanneke, graphicfunk, DeSousa, EcceSignum, Techo, Artyste, Simms, AlexSaberi, Imagineer, Gringo, Roadrunner, jjbeguin, boysetsfire, etc.) These were some of many, now gone, who inspired me during the early years of my DPC experience. New people have taken their place but it doesn't feel the same--likely because I haven't engaged as frequently in the last several years.
Based on normal membership churn, the site needs a steady stream of new members/participants, and this isn't happening. My opinion is that efforts to dress up the existing site, at the expense of generating larger membership rolls are misguided.
Best of luck to you Langdon, your pet project has given me hours of fun and piles of inspiration. For the sake of a super cool site, and a 10+ year tradition of fun. Please figure out a way to market DPC to new users. |
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11/29/2012 01:05:42 AM · #311 |
Dear friends,
Please take a break from all this crepe-hanging, and go vote and comment on the open challenges! Lots of folks went to at least some time and effort to enter something, so it would be nice if you could tear yourselves away from this thread and show some interest in photography. |
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11/29/2012 01:09:52 AM · #312 |
I predict Langdon is waiting until his record is broken...then the site will be gone forever.
Watch out 8.600; Guyban is knocking on the door. :) |
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11/29/2012 01:40:49 AM · #313 |
Originally posted by mpeters:
The photo site scene is crowded and DPC doesn't stand out any longer, and doesn't have enough influx of users/members to make up for those who have moved on(cue eulogy music for kiwiness, librodo, arnit, falc, ursula, sjcarter, terje, soup, hanneke, graphicfunk, DeSousa, EcceSignum, Techo, Artyste, Simms, AlexSaberi, Imagineer, Gringo, Roadrunner, jjbeguin, boysetsfire, etc.) |
I think your reports of his demise have been greatly exaggerated considering he had an entry in the High Contrast challenge:
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11/29/2012 01:55:07 AM · #314 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
Dear friends,
Please take a break from all this crepe-hanging, and go vote and comment on the open challenges! Lots of folks went to at least some time and effort to enter something, so it would be nice if you could tear yourselves away from this thread and show some interest in photography. |
The boat is sinking and we should do something about it because soon there will be no challenges at all. Maybe Langdon will finally notice and respond. |
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11/29/2012 03:29:23 AM · #315 |
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11/29/2012 06:49:29 AM · #316 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I renewed! So got me for another year! =P |
Good on yer,must be all that Love ...Love ...Love |
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11/29/2012 07:45:54 AM · #317 |
Originally posted by mpeters:
I predict Langdon is waiting until his record is broken...then the site will be gone forever.
Watch out 8.600; Guyban is knocking on the door. :) |
There were only 20 entries in that challenge, so it looks like we're heading the right direction anyway. |
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11/29/2012 08:11:07 AM · #318 |
Originally posted by Tiny:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I renewed! So got me for another year! =P |
Good on yer,must be all that Love ...Love ...Love |
Sounds like something John Lennon would've said :p |
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11/29/2012 09:00:47 AM · #319 |
Originally posted by MNet:
I'd be happy to pay $50 for a well run up-to-date site based on the DPC model but I am not sure I want to pay $25 for a retro experience with more and more frequent problems caused by neglect and lack of interest. |
Umm....and what problems of neglect and lack of interest would these be? Your expectations not being met? Someone not responding to your imposition of ideas?
Originally posted by MNet:
Reading what Langdon wrote it is pretty clear he needs to learn to delegate and let go. That would free some of his time.
PS It also looks that he needs a business manager. He sees DPC as a coding exercise, not as a business. That could explain a lot. |
Better hop to it, Langdon......Margaret has it all figured out, and you need to move on this!
Originally posted by MNet:
The boat is sinking and we should do something about it because soon there will be no challenges at all. Maybe Langdon will finally notice and respond. |
Funny......this site is pretty much as it has been for the six years I've been here, with a few improvements, and it is still a bargain for what's available here if you have any kind of grip on reality. The community offers much, and if you can't push yourself within the parameters of the challenges offered, well then, whose fault is that?
Honestly, Margaret, for the life of me, as miserably unhappy that you are with EVERYTHING about DPC, *WHY* are you here?????
FWIW, the constant griping without any indication of any positive input from you is starting to get REALLY old, too. It certainly isn't contributing anything to a site that you openly state has very little going for it.
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11/29/2012 09:08:33 AM · #320 |
I think much of the perceived problem is that of expectations.
At this point if Langdon was up-front in saying there would be no major changes to the site for the forseeable future, we'd be better off.
The people who aren't happy with the existing site can move on.
As it stands, we're adding suggestions to lists and threads, promises are being made, expectations are being raised, followed by frustration when nothing happens.
As has been pointed out, the site works fine the way it is. If someone wants to move to a busier site or one with different features just let them go, instead of keeping them here on the promise of something that'll never happen. |
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11/29/2012 11:16:17 AM · #321 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Funny......this site is pretty much as it has been for the six years I've been here... |
party agree, mainly disagree. see below. no comment on your people-bashing, no place for that..
Originally posted by JH:
The people who aren't happy with the existing site can move on. |
exactly the problem. here is a crude graph of number of entries in the last 8 years (something like 1550 challenges, dating back to some time in 2004).
notice anything interesting about the nice red trendline?
I've been checking this thread on and off and other than a few very well formulated entries, it's a whole bunch of bologny. put some substance into this and you (we) will be heard.
p.s just renewed for another year.. |
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11/29/2012 11:31:36 AM · #322 |
Originally posted by Dudski:
notice anything interesting about the nice red trendline? |
Interesting. Not sure you can apply a straight line extrapolation though. There will always be some level of 'residual' entries as people see they have an increased chance of ribboning, I predict it will level off at 30-40 entries/challenge. Even if there are no paying members left, there are still open challenges available for opportunists...
Of course, in the eventuality of no paying members, the site will shut down as it will be losing money. |
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11/29/2012 11:36:12 AM · #323 |
Originally posted by JH:
Interesting. Not sure you can apply a straight line extrapolation though. |
linear, polynomial, log... you're probably right, but the general trend is obvious |
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11/29/2012 11:51:58 AM · #324 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Funny......this site is pretty much as it has been for the six years I've been here... |
Originally posted by Dudski:
party agree, mainly disagree. see below. no comment on your people-bashing, no place for that.. |
My point was not that the membership may be diminishing, it was that the site, as to what it's offering, is virtually unchanged. You pay $25.00, you get to enter the challenges, have a portfolio, and enjoy the community.
Why some people think that just because *they* decide things "need to change" escapes me. What's here is what was here when they joined, so utilize it, or don't, but constantly griping and telling the world what "needs" tyo happen is just making a bunch of noise.
As far as bashing, no, I am genuinely floored at why this person continues to bitterly complain and set forth directives. If she's so unhappy with the place, why bother? All of the grumbling hasn't, and is unlikely to, affect any change, so why bother? I would think that directing her energy to something else would make more sense. Heck, she's a good photographer......why screw around here if it doesn't suit?
Originally posted by JH:
The people who aren't happy with the existing site can move on. |
It should be noted that this is not a GTFO edict, but merely a suggestion that if one doesn't like the site, how about just moving on without all the bitterness and complaining? It's not constructive, and when you make unreasonable, or for that matter, demands of any sort, then you're pretty much guaranteed to be disappointed.
Message edited by author 2012-11-29 11:58:59.
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11/29/2012 11:59:59 AM · #325 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
You pay $25.00, you get to enter the challenges, have a portfolio, and enjoy the community. |
... until it all goes kaput and you have no more challenges, portfolio, or community.
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