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05/27/2011 08:07:11 PM · #26
Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by MargaretN:

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And since nobody did it yet - the link to the 1st one with Advanced Editing:
Never Seen on DPC!

Thanks for the link. I would be exicited, too, if the challenge was Advanced Editing. But, Expert editing is more about post processing stuff and not much about photography. It's okay! I'll be happy to cast fair and objective votes. But, I will never enter an Expert Editing challenge again. My experience is that images not processed much are discriminated against. Again, that's the prerogative of the voter, but I participate at this site for the photography, not the Photoshop extreme sport.


It's interesting: I've gone back and looked at the 11 previous expert editing challenges, and it's by no means universal that all the top images are extremely post-processed. We have had some expert free studies, in particular, and conventional photos did well in those. Certainly, the topic of the challenge has a lot to do with how extreme the manipulation becomes; "Science Fiction", "Michael Jackson", "Halloween Song Titles", these were all begging for extreme photomontage and got it.

"Never Before Seen on DPC" probably falls in that category, unfortunately. Nevertheless, if you had some sort of a wildlife scene that's rare and precious, for example, it ought to do very well...

R.
05/27/2011 08:22:01 PM · #27
I came in next-to-last, last time. I am not one who thinks photography begins and ends with the camera so I am purely delighted to see Expert editing is allowed on this one. So many ideas, now I've got brain-lock. Very excited to vote on this one. If the side challenges of the past few years are any indication, it should be very entertaining.

I love these.
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Message edited by author 2011-05-27 20:33:34.
05/27/2011 08:22:25 PM · #28
I've done a lot of "Never Seen on DPC".... they usually don't score well.... :)
05/27/2011 09:18:46 PM · #29
This might be tough since we had this challenge before, now we have to dig deep to really meet the challenge.
05/27/2011 11:55:50 PM · #30
Something that has NEVER been seen on DPC???? Does my left toe qualify?
05/28/2011 12:14:35 AM · #31
Originally posted by mgarsteck:

This might be tough since we had this challenge before, now we have to dig deep to really meet the challenge.


I would have to agree... with so many unique photographers on here and having so much creativity, *sigh* tough challenge this time :)
05/28/2011 04:28:18 AM · #32
No one associated with DPC has ever seen the plant I bought a couple weeks ago. Or the new desk I'm picking up Monday which even I have never seen before. In fact I am surrounded by subjects that not one of you have ever seen before. It's like I've hit the photographic jackpot! Really, must we even push on with this charade of a challenge?
05/28/2011 02:59:19 PM · #33
I call bs!!! Heeeeheeehehehehehe!


Originally posted by FocusPoint:

"Never seen on DPC?"



"Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!"


Message edited by author 2011-05-28 17:10:55.
05/28/2011 08:13:40 PM · #34
This is going to be more of a digital art challenge than photographic originality.
I hope the idea I have is going to pay off, I am pretty lame when it comes to editing so my entry will not be digital art but I know it has never been seen on DPC!
05/30/2011 06:46:08 PM · #35
Well, I was too lazy to dust and clean every speck off a set of sparkling wine glasses, but I did manage to process something for this challenge...the editing of which will horrify Judi...YIKES!

But I might enter it just for fun.
05/30/2011 06:47:40 PM · #36
This one I will stay WAAAY AWAY from ...
05/30/2011 07:02:52 PM · #37
Well, it's fun to try anyways...like putting together a puzzle that shapes a story or perhaps a mystery. Good or bad...it's an expressive way to think. I don't know if I'll enter but I enjoyed the experience.
05/30/2011 07:23:03 PM · #38
I am having a lot of fun with this one and it has really forced me to be creative! One thing I can be sure of is it will have never been seen on DPC :) Now I just need to think of the finishing touches and I will be all set!
05/31/2011 09:49:47 AM · #39
These challenges appear tricky to me because on the one hand there's an expectation of free thinking creativity (the universe is the limit) but on the other hand the process of putting images together and nitpicking over the pixels of the final image force a balance between the creative mind and the organized mind. This work is new to me...so maybe I'm wrong.

Then, a group of photographers are asked to vote on what is essentially a creative editing challenge.

As the world turns...;-)
05/31/2011 09:53:19 AM · #40
Well got it pretty much together...it is not as good on the screen as it looks(ed) in my head. I still have two days but don't want to overthink(overprocess) it !
05/31/2011 12:01:49 PM · #41
I thought I had a shot to enter. Then I did a search. I was wrong.
05/31/2011 12:18:40 PM · #42
Dang it, I had a great idea for this, and was the one who suggested the challenge.
But I guess I procrastinated too much, because I was going to shoot today, and instead I am sick as a dog, with no end in sight.
Well, I will enjoy voting anyways
05/31/2011 12:28:10 PM · #43
Originally posted by larryslights:

I thought I had a shot to enter. Then I did a search. I was wrong.


This site has seen just about everything. I, for one, will not be doing a search on each entry before voting to check if, in fact, it has never been seen on this site. So, if it has rarely been seen you are probably safe with me.
05/31/2011 02:16:56 PM · #44
Well, I've decided to let go of the intimidation factor...

So, I'm just going to belly flop dive right in here...YIKES!

Good Luck Everyone!
05/31/2011 06:27:18 PM · #45
I have masochistic tendencies, so I'll probably enter this one.
05/31/2011 06:40:41 PM · #46
I wandered out to the shops today and a street was stopped in the aftermath of a car having got in the way of a tram.

No serious injuries except to inanimate objects. There was a bit of damage to the front of the tram and the car and the parked car that it had been shunted into were in a sorry state (2 sorry states).

So when I got back in I grabbed the camera and nipped out again, but it was all over and moving/moved.

I was going to call it 'Something ecologically friendly that packs a punch'

Ah well...
05/31/2011 07:29:57 PM · #47
Originally posted by LevT:

I have a feeling that we'll see a lot of crazy editing instead of crazy photography in this challenge... which is too bad.


I don't see it that way at all really. Rather i like to think that the expert editing ruleset opens up a rich stream of photography that has a fantastic history. The photo-surrealists, Dada etc. I don't really like the term 'Digital Art' as applied, quite dismissively sometimes, in these type of challenges. It's as if photo-montage or collage is a new thing that's only come about with the advent of photoshop which is not the case of course. I like to think that most of the things that come about in these challenges still sit quite comfortably under the 'photography' label and can be easily done in a wet darkroom. I remember back in the mid 90s when i was doing a photography college course i won a competition and the prize was all this weird green fibre photo paper which they chose because i was the crazy one always dragging rolls of lace and paint and dirt and scissors into the darkroom, messing up the enlargers. Still photography i say. Nothings changed really!
05/31/2011 07:58:14 PM · #48
Dada is so passé :)

Seriously, Clive, I agree that montage is (can be) art, but I would not call it photography. And my problem is that most of what has been produced as "digital art" is exceedingly conceptualized, cartoonish, an illustration rather than art, really. Of course, there are exceptions, as in anything.

for a full disclosure: I am not a big fan of surrealism of any kind.
05/31/2011 08:16:18 PM · #49
Yea, i can see where you are coming from. I really like surrealism in all it's forms but i kind of agree with the Dada being passé thing ( it was along time ago!). I don't really think that an image loses it's inherent 'photograph-ness' by being multiplied or double exposed or even cut and pasted to a certain extent. Why should it? Of course i can see some limits to it (although i'm not sure where the lines are drawn to be honest) and at a certain point things fall apart ( or together) and become just design or something. I think i'd agree with you on the overtly conceptualized and cartoonish nature of much 'digital art' and i don't really tend to enjoy that as much either but surely that is just a matter of taste. Commercial photography is highly conceptualised and cartooonish these days and even within the realms of documentary photography the term 'conceptual documentary photography' seems to be the latest thing (at least reading some UK art/photography publications)

Message edited by author 2011-05-31 20:17:08.
05/31/2011 08:31:11 PM · #50
Originally posted by LevT:

Dada is so passé :)

Seriously, Clive, I agree that montage is (can be) art, but I would not call it photography. And my problem is that most of what has been produced as "digital art" is exceedingly conceptualized, cartoonish, an illustration rather than art, really. Of course, there are exceptions, as in anything.

for a full disclosure: I am not a big fan of surrealism of any kind.


I'm curious as to where your line is. What if it didn't look conceptual or cartoonish? For example, what if the boy (or one of the other people) in muur88's photo was added in post and it was submitted in an expert editing challenge. Not that it was but lets assume. Would it change anything?



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