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11/01/2004 11:19:16 AM · #26 |
reflections in water was a signature of monet ... i agree with John, i'd vote it high :)
Originally posted by nshapiro:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think this photo from the recent Implied Lines challenge is a decent example of impressionism. |
How so? |
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11/01/2004 11:20:10 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by nshapiro:
How so? |
1. It left an impression on me :)
2. It's a simple composition
3. The detail is not what forms the subject or theme
It certainly doesn't comply fully to the late 1800s idea of impressionism, but it fits a lot of the characteristics.
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11/01/2004 11:27:28 AM · #28 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
I think this photo from the recent Implied Lines challenge is a decent example of impressionism. |
Even though i loved the photo, i don't think it's impressionism. Could be wrong though. |
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11/01/2004 11:29:06 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Even though i loved the photo, i don't think it's impressionism. Could be wrong though. |
So what qualities does an image have to contain to be impressionistic?
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11/01/2004 11:29:45 AM · #30 |
| I think that's a great example, John! |
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11/01/2004 11:32:09 AM · #31 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Here are some of mine, that I think are broadly on theme for this challenge. Not a hay bale or a photoshop filter in sight: |
They are awesome, especially the last one. |
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11/01/2004 11:37:31 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Even though i loved the photo, i don't think it's impressionism. Could be wrong though. |
So what qualities does an image have to contain to be impressionistic? |
You know, i looked at it more, and i guess i was wrong. It indeed does have all the qualities i would look for in an impressionistic image.
To answer your question, and i have absolutely zero formal education on the subject, i would look for an image that conveys anything other than sharp, distinct forms or definitions of subjects. It could be a general or a subtle idea of the shape, of the color, or of the action, or perhaps even the atmosphere of the scene, or maybe even a smell, a sound, anything. This is what i'm trying to create in my impressionistic attempts, at least.
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11/01/2004 11:39:57 AM · #33 |
I tend to agree that it's not the greatest example, as I'm finding myself impressed specifically with the rower and the lines created by the oars...very specific items in the photo as opposed to being impressed by the image as a whole...
Edit: I do agree that the general impression of the photo is there...I'm only saying that I find Gordon's examples to be more 'on the mark'...
Message edited by author 2004-11-01 11:41:20.
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11/01/2004 11:46:43 AM · #34 |
It would be tough to be 'classically' impressionistic, in B&W, given that a lot of the ideals were about using bright, primary colours without much in the way of mixing.
I think the main theme of a lot of impressionistic pictures was painting the light and giving the impression of objects by capturing the light illuminating them.
Yes at a certain level every photo and picture captures light, but not all pictures are about that light.
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11/01/2004 11:50:51 AM · #35 |
Nshapiro's floral abstracts! I'd give this an 11.
Message edited by author 2004-11-01 11:51:29. |
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11/01/2004 12:20:43 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Nshapiro's floral abstracts! I'd give this an 11.
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That is really cool.
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11/01/2004 12:59:12 PM · #37 |
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Message edited by author 2005-07-12 11:14:18. |
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11/01/2004 02:05:01 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
I think the main challenge should be with camera handling to get a good picture. Impressionistic effects can be achieved in camera and then only basic editing applied to turn a good image into a great one. Just my opinion. |
Yup, that is certainly one potential view. and I've certainly tried to do that on a variety of ocassions in the past.
But is the final picture actually any better as a result of it ?
Is it actually more challenging to achieve, or have you just exercised a different set of (potentially equally difficult to learn) skills. |
As to whether a better picture results or not that is a matter of opinion. However, for me, I feel more of a sense of achievement if I get the effect I want in camera and then just use photoshop to enhance it rather than create it. Some effects can't be reproduced like the one below. Photoshop was used to enhance the colours but not to create the effect.
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11/01/2004 02:53:30 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Nshapiro's floral abstracts! I'd give this an 11. |
For technique, yes. For composition - it's not perfect, imo. |
Imperfect composition is a defining characteristic of impressionism in the reading about it I have done so far...
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11/01/2004 03:06:02 PM · #40 |
| I've always considered impressionism to be more about using light and color to portray an idea or emotion in a *subjective* rather than *objective* way. To translate this concept into reality in an artistic medium such as painting is rather straight-forward. Still, I'm having a hard time understanding how to apply my interpretation of impressionism to photography. The techniques mentioned heretofore seem, to me, only to be rendering the objective subject into an abstract form. Good thing I don't qualify for submission, I'd have a hard time with this one. |
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11/01/2004 03:10:45 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by yurasocolov:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Nshapiro's floral abstracts! I'd give this an 11. |
For technique, yes. For composition - it's not perfect, imo. |
Imperfect composition is a defining characteristic of impressionism in the reading about it I have done so far... |
Could be, i guess some sort of a balance is more appealing to me. However, in the works of Monet for instance, as far as i remember, the composition is always perfect or close, imo.
In any case, i guess in the case of impressionism all the subjectivity of judgement is especially strong. |
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11/01/2004 05:57:55 PM · #42 |
THis is what I am talking about. I really Like Gordon's examples of In camera effects, or camera only effects. Sure anyone can takea pic and then use the editing software filters to give an impressionistic look to it.
Im gonna try my hardest to obtain the effect with just my camera.
James |
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11/01/2004 06:01:20 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by jab119:
Im gonna try my hardest to obtain the effect with just my camera.
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I think that's the key. Who cares if other people take a different approach ? The challenge should be doing it the way that stretches you the most.
I'm almost considering trying to work out how to do it well in photoshop, given that that would be a whole lot harder for me to do now that I've spent a year exploring different ways of doing it in camera.
Who's to say which is the bigger challenge, or more 'difficult' approach - and following on to that, who says a good picture is only good if it is difficult. Difficult to who - the viewer or the taker ?
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11/01/2004 06:10:02 PM · #44 |
Gordon, This is just stunning work!
I took this last week..... It's the closest thing I have to impressionism, but it is most all done in photoshop. I don't think I would enter this, but I would like to know how people might vote this in the challenge.
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11/01/2004 06:24:34 PM · #45 |
I'm clueless about Impressionism. My google search found Impressionism Photography by Don O. Thorpe ... lots of examples.
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11/01/2004 06:27:11 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by Gringo:
Gordon, This is just stunning work!
I took this last week..... It's the closest thing I have to impressionism, but it is most all done in photoshop. I don't think I would enter this, but I would like to know how people might vote this in the challenge.
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Impressionistic and painterly, certianly not an abstract. |
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11/01/2004 06:30:15 PM · #47 |
Also, check out //www.freemanpatterson.com (Photo Impressionism prints gallery) Freeman Patterson is a film photographer so no photoshop just camera though some are created with multiple exposures.
Message edited by author 2004-11-01 18:31:16.
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11/01/2004 08:12:06 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Also, check out //www.freemanpatterson.com (Photo Impressionism prints gallery) Freeman Patterson is a film photographer so no photoshop just camera though some are created with multiple exposures. |
Andre Gallant is also worth a look. He works a lot with Freeman Patterson and they wrote a book on Impressionistic photography techniques (mixed digital and film approaches - many of them not allowed by the dpc rules - slide sandwiches, multi-exposures etc) |
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11/01/2004 08:25:44 PM · #49 |
Here's a couple natural impressionistic images I have in my favorites by others:
vtruan:
ccraft:
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11/02/2004 12:27:47 AM · #50 |
I can't enter this challenge but have been following this great discussion and believe I have an impressionism that might give you some thoughts. 
The shot was taken from my car window at 1/15 of a second, hand held while driving, going over the Arkansas River, at sunset, showing the levee, river and sunset. I was going to enter it into the abstrract challenge, but again chose badly. Van |
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