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10/25/2004 02:10:01 PM · #26 |
The Bush campaign and the Republican party are getting something like 5 or 6 times the amount of financing from corporations and PACs. It is they who are more beholden to special interests at the expense of the common man/woman.
Originally posted by Russell2566:
Kerry is dangerous for this country because of the special interest groups he is beholdent too. While Bush may do some favors for big business or keep them on his favorits side. Groups like the NAACP, ACLU (who is currently under at LEAST 5 investigations for voter fraud), MoveOn.org and MANY MANY more are much much scarier. |
When will you learn to curb your foul mouth?
Message edited by mk - deleted quote - why repeat the foul language?. |
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10/25/2004 02:13:39 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
We are choosing between a hard working intellectual who has spent his whole life in public service... |
How have we (as a country) gained from his 20 years in the senate? I know Kerry has gained with that six figure salary and the sweet medical and retirement benefits. If a 6 figure salary and kick ass benefits is public service, sign me up.
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10/25/2004 02:14:43 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
The Bush campaign and the Republican party are getting something like 5 or 6 times the amount of financing from corporations and PACs. |
Maybe because people smart enough to make a corporation work know who would make a better President?
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10/25/2004 02:21:50 PM · #29 |
Or rather, maybe it's because they know that he will give them preferential treatment while in office.
Originally posted by louddog:
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
The Bush campaign and the Republican party are getting something like 5 or 6 times the amount of financing from corporations and PACs. |
Maybe because people smart enough to make a corporation work know who would make a better President? |
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10/25/2004 02:24:53 PM · #30 |
Russell - please watch your language.
Olyuzi - the solution to foul language isn't to quote it and put it in bold. We'll take care of it. |
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10/25/2004 02:29:34 PM · #31 |
I decided on voting for Kerry after watching the DNC and the GOP conventions... Until the GOP, I was undecided, but that convention proved to me that we can't afford to let President Bush stay in office.
The 100 reasons, while at times humorous, crossed the line when it attacked his parents and his kids. I may not believe President Bush is any more qualified to run the country than he was to run the Texas Rangers, but the conduct of his daughters is completely irrelevant, and really not all that bad anyway. The attacks against his mother and father are classless, crude and, like the attacks on his daughter, completely irrelevant to his ability to run the country. He shouldn't be running the country because he hasn't the diplomatic sense, economic sense or the common sense that God gave a snail... It has nothing to do with his mother not being a fashion model.
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10/25/2004 02:41:56 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
This is a matter of picking the lesser of the two evils. |
Then please consider this Democratic/Labour view on what the true evil is, and who is the better choice: I'm a Democrat for Bush. |
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10/25/2004 02:49:51 PM · #33 |
Originally posted by louddog:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
We are choosing between a hard working intellectual who has spent his whole life in public service... |
How have we (as a country) gained from his 20 years in the senate? I know Kerry has gained with that six figure salary and the sweet medical and retirement benefits. If a 6 figure salary and kick ass benefits is public service, sign me up. |
Don't forget that, during his time "between heiresses", he was the most bought-off senator from either party. |
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10/25/2004 03:09:43 PM · #34 |
Yeah but we don't want to learn from history, or literature. Don't wanna read no Orwell when I got some ass-kicking to do. We just want to make the mistakes all by ourselves. Ignorance is a positive feedback system.
Originally posted by Gordon:
"Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct; nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record. All history was a palimpsest, scraped clean and reinscribed exactly as often as was necessary.
The citizen [...] is not allowed to know anything of the tenets of the other two philosphies, but he is taught to execrate them as barbarous outrages upon morality and common sense. Actually, the three philosophies are barely distinguishableĂ¢€Â¦
Science, in the old sense, has almost ceased to exist. In Newspeak there is no word for 'Science.' The empirical method of thought, on which all the scientific achievements of the past were founded, is opposed to the most fundamental principles of Ingsoc.
a nation of warriors and fanatics, marching forward in perfect unity, all thinking the same thoughts and shouting the same slogans, perpetually working, fighting, triumphing, persecuting - three hundred million people all with the same face.
the consciousness of being at war, and therefore in danger, makes the handing-over of all power to a small caste seem the natural, unavoidable condition of survival.
the essential act of the Party is to use conscious deception while retaining the firmness of purpose that goes with complete honesty.
What can you do [...] against the lunatic who is more intelligent than yourself, who gives your arguments a fair hearing and then simply persists in his lunacy?"
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10/25/2004 03:19:05 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
We are choosing between a hard working intellectual who has spent his whole life in public service and a cowboy with C average grades who is fun to party with. |
Aw, come on. There's no cowboys in Massachussetts! Enough with your japery.
And, another key demolishing point of your substantial arguement: "fun to party with" is subjective. I'm sure though you seem to think John Kerry would be fun to party with, I imagine there are many others who don't share your opinions. If you're going to muster respect, please don't try to pass an opinion for a fact. That's just unprofessional. |
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10/25/2004 03:20:29 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
We are choosing between a hard working intellectual who has spent his whole life in public service and a cowboy with C average grades who is fun to party with. |
...uh...what's wrong with cowboys? :o) |
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10/25/2004 03:23:32 PM · #37 |
HEY!! Come on. This thread was started as just a bit of humor to lighten up the overly sensitive political discussions (tirades?) going on in these forums.
Rather than highjacking this thread to do your Kerry/Bush bashing, start your own thread and leave this one what it originally was, Humor.
drg
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10/25/2004 03:34:51 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
We are choosing between a hard working intellectual who has spent his whole life in public service and a cowboy with C average grades who is fun to party with. |
...uh...what's wrong with cowboys? :o) |
Nothing, as long as their not running the most powerful country on earth. |
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10/25/2004 03:45:42 PM · #39 |
| When did the party of tolorance become the part of intolorance? Carter years perhaps? |
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10/25/2004 03:49:20 PM · #40 |
| Absolutely not. I'd rather someone who wrangles the mighty, the wild, the majestic. Though they are graceful, they are a rampant terror. Yes, I speak of the Peanut. He who wrangles peanuts is in a much more astute position than he who wrangles livestock. If a peanut were to go off it's mind, the entire state would be in danger. |
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10/25/2004 03:51:15 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
We are choosing between a hard working intellectual who has spent his whole life in public service and a cowboy with C average grades who is fun to party with. |
...uh...what's wrong with cowboys? :o) |
Nothing, as long as their not running the most powerful country on earth. |
Ugh. I hope that's a joke. So hard to tell on the internet. |
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10/25/2004 03:56:35 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Originally posted by laurielblack:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
We are choosing between a hard working intellectual who has spent his whole life in public service and a cowboy with C average grades who is fun to party with. |
...uh...what's wrong with cowboys? :o) |
Nothing, as long as their not running the most powerful country on earth. |
Ugh. I hope that's a joke. So hard to tell on the internet. |
Which part? The part about cowboys as political leaders or the US being the most powerful country on earth? Or both? |
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10/25/2004 04:07:02 PM · #43 |
Funny thing about Cowboys.
True cowboys embody all that is good about the American spirit.
They stand up for the small and weak against the monied and powerful. They will sacrifice their personal well-being to do what is right.
Read some Louis L'Amour again.
George Bush and his ilk are the quintessential bad guys in every cowboy story ever written.
When I read members posting here with political viewpoints full of personal greed, distain for the poor, and a lack of concern for the common good of their neighbors - all wrapped up in the flag, it makes me weep for the America we used to have, the America of the true Cowboy. |
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10/25/2004 04:12:44 PM · #44 |
I don't know if 'true cowboys' exist anymore. Living in Alberta and having a cowboy as a pardner, well ma'am, you learn a thing or two.
Best to let go of the past, IMHO. |
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10/25/2004 04:26:46 PM · #45 |
I doubt many "true cowboy's" were ever born in New Haven, Connecticut, or went to school at Yale. It is so weird that this 'man of the people' BS gets sucked up, while the 'foppish elitist' view of Kerry sticks too.
It is class war though, Yale Class of 68 vs Yale Class of 66.
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10/25/2004 04:29:27 PM · #46 |
True cowboys do exsist still.
Originally posted by GoldBerry:
I don't know if 'true cowboys' exist anymore. Living in Alberta and having a cowboy as a pardner, well ma'am, you learn a thing or two.
Best to let go of the past, IMHO. |
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10/25/2004 04:38:41 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by Gordon:
I doubt many "true cowboy's" were ever born in New Haven, Connecticut, or went to school at Yale. It is so weird that this 'man of the people' BS gets sucked up, while the 'foppish elitist' view of Kerry sticks too. |
Indeed it is ironic how that sticks.
Again I implore people to watch The Choice 2004, you can view it online in segments too if you have broadband here. |
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10/25/2004 05:40:41 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
..... a hard working intellectual..... |
You are still talking about a U.S. Senator Right?
Message edited by author 2004-10-25 17:45:42. |
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10/25/2004 05:59:52 PM · #49 |
Originally posted by Desert_Dweller:
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
..... a hard working intellectual..... |
You are still talking about a U.S. Senator Right? |
That is correct, some do appear to exist.
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
Again I implore people to watch The Choice 2004, you can view it online in segments too if you have broadband here. |
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10/25/2004 07:55:11 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by MadMordegon:
We are choosing between a hard working intellectual who has spent his whole life in public service and a cowboy with C average grades who is fun to party with. |
Anyone that believes President Bush is "fun to party with" needs to look here for the real truth about the President's so called party days!!!
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