Jon Stewart/CNN: What's the Controversy? (Video)

10/18/2004 03:21:09 PM · #1

"I will not be your monkey."

"You're as big a dick..."

See the video

Russell2566

10/18/2004 03:53:06 PM · #2

a dissapointing performance by John... Too bad, I usualy find him very funny.

10/18/2004 03:54:11 PM · #3

There is a transcript here.

Reminded me a lot why I enjoyed Jeremy Paxman on the BBC. One time he asked the Home Office Minister, Michael Howard, the same question 14 times, while he avoided answering it each time.

Russell2566

10/18/2004 04:02:24 PM · #4

Originally posted by Gordon:

I don't think john deserves that comparison, kind of an insult to Michael Howard I'm sure...

10/18/2004 04:03:44 PM · #5

Originally posted by Russell2566:

a dissapointing performance by John... Too bad, I usualy find him very funny.

I have no idea what you're talking about... Jon was amazing! Finally, someone (even if "just" a comedian) that's not afraid to tell it like it is.

10/18/2004 04:07:24 PM · #6

Originally posted by Russell2566:

Originally posted by Gordon:
There is a transcript here.

Reminded me a lot why I enjoyed Jeremy Paxman on the BBC. One time he asked the Home Office Minister, Michael Howard, the same question 14 times, while he avoided answering it each time.

I don't think john deserves that comparison, kind of an insult to Michael Howard I'm sure...

Just for a change, I have no idea what you are talking about.

10/18/2004 04:39:51 PM · #7

Originally posted by bdobe:

Originally posted by Russell2566:
a dissapointing performance by John... Too bad, I usualy find him very funny.

I have no idea what you're talking about... Jon was amazing! Finally, someone (even if "just" a comedian) that's not afraid to tell it like it is.

Agreed 100% Jon told them truth... Something rarely found on CNN or any of the so called news agencies

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10/18/2004 04:44:33 PM · #8

Originally posted by myqyl:

Agreed 100% Jon told them truth... Something rarely found on CNN or any of the so called news agencies

Everyone that's seen the clip agrees with you... a couple of my female co-workers want to marry Jon.

MadMordegon

10/18/2004 04:49:17 PM · #9

I'll watch it shortly, waiting for da boss to go home.

jimmyn4

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10/18/2004 04:58:30 PM · #10

I agree that the Daily Show does not have the responsibility to educate voters but I think it is sad that people have based their votes on that show. I personally don't watch the show anymore as it has become to partisan for my liking. God, I can't wait until November 2nd!

10/18/2004 05:20:05 PM · #11

Originally posted by jimmyn4:

God, I can't wait until November 2nd!

Me too! I want to cast my vote already.

MadMordegon

10/18/2004 05:34:48 PM · #12

Dont pre-vote if you are able. That will just give someone extra time to mess with it. Part of the FL scam this year.

Also, on a side note, I thought people in this thread would be intereste; an online friend of mine spoke with his brother in the middle east recently and gave his account Iraq.

Originally posted by :

My little brother, a Corporal in the Marines, just called home. He talked at great length, on account of he was on a good phone line in Kuwait, where he was escorting a convoy. Here's a few interesting this he had to say:

1. He'll be partaking in a full on assault of Fallujah in the next few days. Apparently, they're going to level the city.

2. The camp where he is stationed has no water and leaky sewage. This has resulted in Marines stationed there to volunteer for dangerous convoy duty simply for the oppurtunity to take a shower.

3. He has already voted, as has most of his unit. He voted for Kerry, along with 80% to 90% of his fellow Marines (his count). He says they're all very pissed at the president for sending them to Iraq on what they see as a pointless mission. They are also angry with military personell stateside who are voting for Bush, because the Marines in field don't think that they understand what it's really like.

4. He says everything we see on tv is true, with the bombed out buildings and naked kids. What really depresses him is that they'll give candy to the kids one day, and the next the kids will be shooting back.

5. Mr. Rumsfeld spoke to his unit a few days ago when Rummy was in country, and told the Marines to buckle down, because once they were done in Iraq, which would "be no more than a year from now" (Rumsfeld's words), they were moving on to North Korea.

Just thought some of you guys would be interested in this.

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Russell2566

10/18/2004 05:47:31 PM · #13

Pretty different from what my friends in Iraq say...

The Military is very heavily leaned to Bush anyway... And again I'm sure the deomcrats will try to not count military votes. I'm also worried about the numerous investigations into voter fraud, mostly by liberal run groups.

I'm also confused about the early voting. How is this legal? Can someone explain it to me. Have we done this before?

10/18/2004 05:58:05 PM · #14

Originally posted by Russell2566:

I'm also confused about the early voting. How is this legal? Can someone explain it to me. Have we done this before?

Absentee voting is usually done about a month to a month and a half prior to the actual election day, so that the votes can be counted around the same time. I'd be surprised if this was something new in the US. I vote that way in the UK elections.

In fact, often if you wait until the election day, your vote will never get counted.

10/18/2004 06:06:29 PM · #15

Originally posted by Russell2566:

I'm also worried about the numerous investigations into voter fraud, mostly by liberal run groups.

Could you give examples? I'm curious who you mean...

Originally posted by Russell2566:

I'm also confused about the early voting. How is this legal? Can someone explain it to me. Have we done this before?

Oregon voters don't usually "go to polls" on election day... They vote by mail a month ahead of time and the ballots are counted on election day... Much better system with a much higher voter turn out...

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10/18/2004 06:08:28 PM · #16

Originally posted by myqyl:

How do they address the issue of people selling their votes ? That's apparently often a problem in these sorts of schemes.

emorgan49

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10/18/2004 06:13:04 PM · #17

My-son-the-Marine-in-Afghanistan thinks the military vote will be heavily Bush from what he has seen. His unit did not get regualr ballots in time but instead got write in "provisional ballots" In the 2000 election, these votes were never counted. If 8 million Afghanis can vote, I think the Americans in Afghanistan should vote also. It's not like they have know for 35 years that the election would be on Nov. 2nd.

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10/18/2004 06:14:12 PM · #18

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by myqyl:

Oregon voters don't usually "go to polls" on election day... They vote by mail a month ahead of time and the ballots are counted on election day... Much better system with a much higher voter turn out...

How do they address the issue of people selling their votes ? That's apparently often a problem in these sorts of schemes.

They don't really... The only difference is that the buyer of the vote can verify that they are getting what they paid for... Oregonians have always been much more interested in consumer protection then election fraud :)

ScottK

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10/18/2004 06:16:38 PM · #19

Originally posted by MadMordegon:

Dont pre-vote if you are able.

Finally, something we can agree on. :) (Of course, from polar opposite conclusions on who will use and abuse it.)

Originally posted by MadMordegon:

That will just give someone extra time to mess with it. Part of the FL scam this year.

Kerry is the one I've heard pushing people to "vote early". The only thing missing is the "...and vote often" part. I fear what the left is going to make of this election.

Originally posted by MadMordegon:

Also, on a side note, I thought people in this thread would be intereste; an online friend of mine spoke with his brother in the middle east recently and gave his account Iraq.

How in the world does that have anything to do with this thread??? But, now that I think of it, neither does anything else in this post. Sucked in again...

Message edited by author 2004-10-18 18:26:14.

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10/18/2004 06:23:40 PM · #20

Originally posted by Gordon:

Originally posted by Russell2566:

I'm also confused about the early voting. How is this legal? Can someone explain it to me. Have we done this before?

Absentee voting is usually done about a month to a month and a half prior to the actual election day, so that the votes can be counted around the same time. I'd be surprised if this was something new in the US. I vote that way in the UK elections.

In fact, often if you wait until the election day, your vote will never get counted.

Absentee voting has been around as long as I've been aware of the voting process. My dad was in the Air Force, and we were in Greece during the '76 elections, and my parents voted absentee.

I the last decade or so, people have taken to voting absentee out of, IMO, laziness. They sign up for an absentee ballot and then just send it in to avoid having to go stand in line on election day. I haven't liked this trend, because it seems too succeptible to fraud, particularly as the number of people doing it grows. (I'll say that, perhaps people have always done it, and I just wasn't aware until the 90s.)

Now, in efforts to increase the vote, more states are allowing early voting. Florida's opened today - with all the requisite charges of fraud and abuse right off the bat. The whole election process will be in the courts before the election even takes place. This whole trend is disturbing to me.

10/18/2004 06:30:50 PM · #21

Originally posted by Russell2566:

I'm also confused about the early voting. How is this legal? Can someone explain it to me. Have we done this before?

Early voting is definitely common, whether it be by mail or physically (in "selected" polling stations).

I know that in L.A. there are various polling places that are open long before any given election day, so the people can vote early -- one does not even have to live in that precinct. Again, it's quite common. I'll be voting early, by mail.

As to your other point:

Originally posted by Russell2566:

I'm also worried about the numerous investigations into voter fraud, mostly by liberal run groups.

This seems to be a statement with no basis in truth -- I'd like you to post some articles to support that liberal groups are committing voter fraud. I ask because I have come across SEVERAL instances of voter fraud being perpetrated by Republican affiliated groups. Here's a sample:

1. Republicans tear Democratic voter registration cards:

"I personally witnessed my supervisor at VOA, together with her personal assistant, destroy completed registration forms that VOA employees had collected," said Russell. "All of the destroyed registration forms were for registrants who indicated their party preference as 'Democrat.'" (link)

2. Ohio Secretary of State, a Republican, tried to invalidate voter registration cards because some of those new voter registration cards did not conform to an "archaic" rule requiring that the cards be on 80 lbs paper. Since the initial announcement the Secretary of State backpedaled and is now allowing those new registration cards to be counted. (link)

3. Phone jamming, initiated by Republican campaign operatives to suppress Democrats from voting in 2002 congressional election.

"Chuck McGee, the former executive director of the state Republican Party, pleaded guilty a few months ago to paying $15,600 to a Virginia telemarketing company to make the calls that jammed the get-out-the vote lines of Democrats the morning of the 2002 election." (link)

Message edited by author 2004-10-18 18:31:52.

riotspyne

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10/18/2004 06:34:54 PM · #22

i think john was awesome!