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06/22/2004 03:03:52 PM · #1 |
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06/22/2004 03:06:52 PM · #2 |
I know it isn't. It's a punch.
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06/22/2004 03:07:07 PM · #3 |
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06/22/2004 03:07:59 PM · #4 |
Maybe you could get the ball rolling by elaborating a bit...
Message edited by author 2004-06-22 15:08:08. |
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06/22/2004 03:08:48 PM · #5 |
in Counter Strike lang headshot is a totally diffrent thing ....
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06/22/2004 03:08:57 PM · #6 |
Well, I am already lost. LOL I will wait for the wisdom to start pouring forth!!!!
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06/22/2004 03:10:43 PM · #7 |
I seem to recall a previous portrait challenge where the nit-pickers marked down for landscape orientation.
Message edited by author 2004-06-22 15:11:28. |
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06/22/2004 03:10:59 PM · #8 |
I think you can plausibly argue that a headshot has no "formal" nature to it. Its got no background, no "pose" its just a shot to show what a person looks like without any extraneous factors. (not that this is the *only* perspective on the matter, but its one).
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06/22/2004 03:15:01 PM · #9 |
what's a head shot?
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06/22/2004 03:35:38 PM · #10 |
head shots are of course portraits. it is all about lighting, expression, mood. look at the eyes in the portrait above, and notice I call it a portrait.
Message edited by author 2004-06-22 15:35:53. |
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06/22/2004 03:38:58 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by KarenB: head shots are of course portraits. it is all about lighting, expression, mood. look at the eyes in the portrait above, and notice I call it a portrait. |
and I wouldn't call that a head shot, I'd call it a portrait too. A head shot is a fairly specific style of actor type casting image or those found in a passport.
Portraits at least to me are much much broader and more revealing than just a picture of someone's head.
Message edited by author 2004-06-22 15:42:18.
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06/22/2004 03:39:47 PM · #12 |
If it's a head shot like that for a passport, then I would agree, it's not a portrait. Seems to me, that if a headshot is revealing character or insight about the person, then we can call it a portrait. |
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06/22/2004 03:41:33 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi: If it's a head shot like that for a passport, then I would agree, it's not a portrait. Seems to me, that if a headshot is revealing character or insight about the person, then we can call it a portrait. |
Yup. I'd tend to agree.
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06/22/2004 03:42:54 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Gordon: Originally posted by Olyuzi: If it's a head shot like that for a passport, then I would agree, it's not a portrait. Seems to me, that if a headshot is revealing character or insight about the person, then we can call it a portrait. |
Yup. I'd tend to agree. |
I'm cool with that definition :) |
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06/22/2004 03:43:56 PM · #15 |
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Message edited by author 2004-06-22 15:58:30. |
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06/22/2004 03:45:20 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi: If it's a head shot like that for a passport, then I would agree, it's not a portrait. Seems to me, that if a headshot is revealing character or insight about the person, then we can call it a portrait. |
So passport photos are supposed to conceal some insight about the person's character? How counter-productive ...
Whether a "headshot" "qualifies" as a "portrait" is a completely subjective judgement, for which there can never be an objective scale on which we all agree. |
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06/22/2004 03:45:25 PM · #17 |
So what is the exact ratio of head to body that we should shoot in order to meet the challenge? I wanna make sure I get it right so that the pixel-counting 'has to meet the exact wording of the challenge' voters have nothing to complain about.
:P
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06/22/2004 03:48:15 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by GeneralE: Originally posted by Olyuzi: If it's a head shot like that for a passport, then I would agree, it's not a portrait. Seems to me, that if a headshot is revealing character or insight about the person, then we can call it a portrait. |
So passport photos are supposed to conceal some insight about the person's character? How counter-productive ...
Whether a "headshot" "qualifies" as a "portrait" is a completely subjective judgement, for which there can never be an objective scale on which we all agree. |
and.. shortly after my agreement post, the voice of reason speaks. Thanks GeneralE, you have a way of showing me the "other side of things" when I am making snap decisions. :) |
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06/22/2004 03:49:06 PM · #19 |
there is no exact ratio... it could include only part of the face or all of the body with a background. and anything in between/.
Originally posted by bod: So what is the exact ratio of head to body that we should shoot in order to meet the challenge? I wanna make sure I get it right so that the pixel-counting 'has to meet the exact wording of the challenge' voters have nothing to complain about.
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Message edited by author 2004-06-22 15:50:26.
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06/22/2004 03:50:41 PM · #20 |
Just another example ... and another chance to look at one of my favourite photos on this site : )
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06/22/2004 03:50:53 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by bod: So what is the exact ratio of head to body that we should shoot in order to meet the challenge? I wanna make sure I get it right so that the pixel-counting 'has to meet the exact wording of the challenge' voters have nothing to complain about. |
This website found through a quick search on Yahoo! has examples of various portrait shots. Not all are formal in the aspect that they aren't in a studio enviornment.
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06/22/2004 03:51:23 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by bod: So what is the exact ratio of head to body that we should shoot in order to meet the challenge? I wanna make sure I get it right so that the pixel-counting 'has to meet the exact wording of the challenge' voters have nothing to complain about.
:P |
//uscis.gov/graphics/lawsregs/handbook/m-378.pdf
I have to do some of these this week for some forms.
Might as well just enter them - they are bound to be wonderful portraits and really fit the challenge then. Must be an automatic 10 I assume.
Point is - just because it 'meets the challenge' doesn't mean that it is really to the essence of what a good portrait actually is about - which is showing the character of a person, perhaps capturing and sharing a bit of their personality.
Some of the best portraits I've seen would certainly never be allowed on a passport.
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06/22/2004 03:54:07 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
So passport photos are supposed to conceal some insight about the person's character? How counter-productive ...
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A passport photo is absolutely not meant to show anything about a person's character. In fact, they have fairly strict guidelines to minimise any attempt at showing your character. Same with an actor's head shot. They are both supposed to be a very literal represenation of what a person looks like. Which is why I would still say that a head shot is not a (good) portrait. Sure it would technically meet the challenge. But technically meeting the challenge is the lowest common denomintor for entering, not what makes a picture good.
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06/22/2004 03:54:36 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by bod:
Just another example ... and another chance to look at one of my favourite photos on this site : ) |
Great portrait. Not a head shot.
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06/22/2004 03:55:12 PM · #25 |
Dang. We need some [rhetorical] tags in these forums ; )
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