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 01/14/2016 10:06:21 AM · #26
I can't figure out what the challenge is asking for exactly. I'm going to vote, thought. Should be interesting.
 01/14/2016 10:18:54 AM · #27
To further illustrate my fake pano point, I was practicing the technique last night and shot this...



What you are looking at is a 1000px wide version of an image created from 13 vertical images shot with my D750. The final result is 31319px x 5781px, or 181MP's, but what you're looking at is indistinguishable from a shot I could have taken with iPhone and built in flash and cropped. Heck, the iPhone could actually look better because I had to shrink it to only 3% of its total size.
01/14/2016 11:36:27 AM · #28
Wow. Great experiment. That's what I was wondering. This is kind of a crazy challenge! The main thing, then, is it should be much wider than it is tall. Maybe I will enter, after all. "D

Message edited by author 2016-01-14 11:37:48.
 01/14/2016 11:44:14 AM · #29
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It seems to me if you want to score well you'd best ignore the focus-stacking aspect of Lepp's work and concentrate on close-up panoramas. It's a fascinating idea, let your imagination run riot.


I let my imagination run riot...it hasn't come back yet.
 01/14/2016 08:53:29 PM · #30
yikes! these stitched files get HUGE... 200+ Mb easy
 01/14/2016 09:01:18 PM · #31
on a technical and Advanced Rules note... maybe SC can weigh in....

if our captures do not create a completely rectangular background, can we "stretch" or create new canvas under them to fill in the missing space? i guess it could technically be considered an irregular "border"

01/17/2016 03:52:24 PM · #32
did anyone find out if we could use MORE than 10 captures for this challenge?
 01/17/2016 04:28:17 PM · #33
Originally posted by mefnj:
did anyone find out if we could use MORE than 10 captures for this challenge?


I believe that we can stitch together as many frames as we like, with a max of 10 images per frame if we're doing focus stacking or HDR. That's the way it was in the last pano challenge a couple months ago.
 01/17/2016 04:35:47 PM · #34
I'm in and good luck for all who have to upload all of their original images ;)
 01/17/2016 10:35:52 PM · #35
I think if you were very good you could stitch the frames beside and above to make one huge photograph, so it wouldn't always have to be wider than it is high. You would probably need an expensive pano tripod head to do it though. Also the restrictions on file size here would limit what you would be able to do, I when I tried to upload I got the message that the file was larger than the 700kb allowed so I had to lower the quality a bit which didn't seem to affect the quality and 1200px wide is a slight restriction but not overly restrictive.

I don't really do panoramas very often so I am looking forward to seeing some good entries that I can learn from, good luck everyone.
 01/18/2016 05:53:50 AM · #36
We had George Lepp do a presentation at our local Camera club, he taught some pretty fascinating techniques most of which involved the use of combining focus stacking, HDR, and panorama techniques all at once. Hard to really do his style justice in a 1200 pixel wide shot but the idea to me would be to include as much detail as possible. His shots produced prints of very small sections of a scene that could be printed on a large wall and still have a tremendous amount of detail. It was amazing the number of shots he would combine for one photo, if he had a pano each panel of the pano might be made up of a focus stacked HDR, basically 10 or more shots at different focus settings, then each of those focus settings would done as an HDR of at least five settings, then depending on how many panels in the pano it all starts to add up quickly. To me there was a lot of overkill to his process but you can not argue with the end results.

At the end of his presentation I came away wanting to try some of his techniques so I purchased a cam ranger to help with focus stacking and have produced some really nice results that look fantastic as large prints. Canon also loves him because he teaches people how to burn through a Camera faster.

01/18/2016 09:45:51 AM · #37
Votes: 11
Views: 38
Avg Vote: 4.2727
01/18/2016 09:56:44 AM · #38
to be honest I thought I did good but looking at the numbers I feel I am sucks :)

this morning started with 5.1 and now at 5.0 :0
 01/18/2016 09:59:39 AM · #39
Votes: 11
Views: 31
Avg Vote: 4.8182
Comments: 0

hehe bad start 2016...
 01/18/2016 11:13:43 AM · #40
Apparently not one of my better efforts :)

Votes: 15
Views: 40
Avg Vote: 4.4000
 01/18/2016 11:16:59 AM · #41
So it ended up as a free study with a crop ! (some did'nt bother with the crop)
 01/18/2016 12:40:31 PM · #42
I believe that my image is receiving unfair judgement.

After 2 votes, my score was 3.
After 5 votes, my score was 2.6!
It has finally risen above 4.

I do realize that I am not the best photographer, but I know this is not the worst image that I have uploaded to this site. And so far my score has been well below my worst!

And also, if you're gonna leave 1s, 2s, 3s, I would appreciate it if you would leave a constructive criticism as to why.
 01/18/2016 01:04:05 PM · #43
Originally posted by WonderDude:
I believe that my image is receiving unfair judgement.

"Fair" is not really the issue; people give it the score they think it deserves, and they take into account not just photographic quality but challenge relevance. If it doesn't LOOK like a panorama it will get dinged, even if it IS created using panoramic techniques. If it doesn't LOOK like a "closeup" it will get dinged, even if YOU think of of as a closeup yourself... I'm in the 4.5 range myself, FWIW.

A lot of these panoramas LOOK like they are cropped, wide-angle shots to the casual viewer. It's only when you look closely at the relative proportions of edge objects to center objects that you realize you're looking at a composite image.

Message edited by author 2016-01-18 13:06:11.
 01/18/2016 01:18:55 PM · #44
They're being beaten to a pulp almost across the board, it would seem. At least I'm in good company.

As I mentioned last week, not a fan of this challenge at all because they all look like they could be wide angle crops. Makes me wish I hadn't bothered.
 01/18/2016 01:26:13 PM · #45
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:
They're being beaten to a pulp almost across the board, it would seem. At least I'm in good company.

As I mentioned last week, not a fan of this challenge at all because they all look like they could be wide angle crops. Makes me wish I hadn't bothered.

I have to concur!

I don't think this is a very fair challenge. Knowing what I know now, I should have just taken a wide angle shot and cropped it down vertically to give the illusion of a panorama. Though in actuality, I don't actually have a wide angle lens. And my lens is fixed on my camera anyway, so I couldn't change it if I wanted to. But you get my point.

I wouldn't be so irritated if I hadn't spent days contemplating a subject and hours driving around looking for something interesting and then more hours processing what I found. But I guess it is what it is.
01/18/2016 02:26:33 PM · #46
Originally posted by WonderDude:
I wouldn't be so irritated if I hadn't spent days contemplating a subject and hours driving around looking for something interesting and then more hours processing what I found.

Didn't you learn something by undertaking this exercise? WTF cares what a few dozen voters at some website think of the result? Acquiring knowledge is almost always useful, even if you may not see a "practical" use for it at the moment.
 01/18/2016 02:33:19 PM · #47
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by WonderDude:
I wouldn't be so irritated if I hadn't spent days contemplating a subject and hours driving around looking for something interesting and then more hours processing what I found.

Didn't you learn something by undertaking this exercise? WTF cares what a few dozen voters at some website think of the result? Acquiring knowledge is almost always useful, even if you may not see a "practical" use for it at the moment.


Precisely. If nothing else I learned about the stuff this challenge should have been about (GigaPanoramas) and am setting about to try a few of those. It won't be useful here, but...

And btw, I'm not sure what happened but I just jumped a full point in 3 votes. Whoo-hoo!!
 01/18/2016 02:34:14 PM · #48
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by WonderDude:
I believe that my image is receiving unfair judgement.

"Fair" is not really the issue; people give it the score they think it deserves, and they take into account not just photographic quality but challenge relevance. If it doesn't LOOK like a panorama it will get dinged, even if it IS created using panoramic techniques. If it doesn't LOOK like a "closeup" it will get dinged, even if YOU think of of as a closeup yourself... I'm in the 4.5 range myself, FWIW.

A lot of these panoramas LOOK like they are cropped, wide-angle shots to the casual viewer. It's only when you look closely at the relative proportions of edge objects to center objects that you realize you're looking at a composite image.


Yeah, exactly. And I have left comments on all images, so hopefully people get insight to voter thoughts.
 01/18/2016 03:18:26 PM · #49
I thought this crop of panoramas was superb.

Stats: You have rated 34 of 34 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.6176.

Having done a few of these over the years, I know how time-consuming and difficult they are to do.
No, mine's not in there, I just didn't have the time to do it justice. but it sure was fun to go
through and appreciate the ones who worked it out.
 01/18/2016 03:24:16 PM · #50
I actually took five or six shots and stitched for mine. Then I took just one. To tell the truth, I couldn't tell much if any difference. And since huge files are a pain in the butt to work with and almost invariably give me computer problems and I was running out of time, I decided to go with the single file and crop. I saw in the * that we COULD stitch images, but nowhere in the description did I see that we HAD to.

Mine has other issues, though, and I'm not at all complaining about my low score. Just saying that while I am not going to call a 2:3 ratio crop a panorama, I'm also not going to be deducting points because I think I might be looking at a single image cropped to panoramic proportions when I vote.
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