Adobe Announces it will be Cloud Only...

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05/06/2013 05:33:39 PM · #27

Originally posted by Mike:

CS7 is coming out ....

What makes you think there will be a CS7, Mike?
This is from Adobe's website: "While Adobe Creative SuiteÂ® 6 products will continue to be available for purchase, Adobe has no plans for future releases of Creative Suite or other CS products."

Garry

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05/06/2013 05:34:13 PM · #28

I won't spend $29/month on television. Pretty certain I wont be spending that on Adobe products.

This is commercially untenable.

Cory

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05/06/2013 05:35:30 PM · #29

So, when exactly did Reed Hastings take over Adobe? I guess I missed the press release on that.

bhuge

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05/06/2013 05:36:40 PM · #30

Originally posted by Mike:

then again at $14.99 for students...

That's $719 over four years for a college student. Not horrible price, but the difference is that they don't own it. Before you could keep your student edition as long as you wanted. Now you lose all of it unless you start forking over $50 a month.

I wonder how many car companies would survive if they told customers that all new models of cars would only be available with a lease.

giantmike

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05/06/2013 05:46:22 PM · #31

Originally posted by Cory:

So, when exactly did Reed Hastings take over Adobe? I guess I missed the press release on that.

Zing!

05/06/2013 05:46:48 PM · #32

Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by Mike:
CS7 is coming out ....

What makes you think there will be a CS7, Mike?
This is from Adobe's website: "While Adobe Creative SuiteÂ® 6 products will continue to be available for purchase, Adobe has no plans for future releases of Creative Suite or other CS products."

so what are they going to do, just keep updating an app?

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05/06/2013 05:48:26 PM · #33

hold on a second guys, i cant hear you. the folks over are Corel are throwing a huge party, its so loud i can hear it all the way here.

Ann

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05/06/2013 05:58:48 PM · #34

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by Mike:
CS7 is coming out ....

What makes you think there will be a CS7, Mike?
This is from Adobe's website: "While Adobe Creative SuiteÂ® 6 products will continue to be available for purchase, Adobe has no plans for future releases of Creative Suite or other CS products."

so what are they going to do, just keep updating an app?

Yes, that's how the software subscription model works. If you're a subscriber, you get bug fixes and updates as soon as they're coded and tested, instead of waiting several months until they bundle up a bunch of changes into a "release."

05/06/2013 06:22:50 PM · #35

so how many people are betting this new "camera shake" removal technology is so great, pros will jump into the subscription model as fast as they can?

05/06/2013 06:26:19 PM · #36

Originally posted by Mike:

so how many people are betting this new "camera shake" removal technology is so great, pros will jump into the subscription model as fast as they can?

I dunno, sounds like a shaky proposition if you ask me... I see cons but not so many pros ;-)

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05/06/2013 06:27:57 PM · #37

Originally posted by kirbic:

I see cons but not so many pros ;-)

i just dont see how this is a good idea. maybe they will slash prices down the road to make it more viable for the weekend warriors, but they just priced it out of even the range of us semi-pros.

HarveyG

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05/06/2013 06:44:31 PM · #38

Topaz Labs "photoFXlab" is a standalone photo editor product that sells for R79-00 (Currently R49-00 with the coupon code "PFXL"). It works with all their plugins. They have a "deblur" product that's called InFocus, it works too. You can choose an individual plugin you need or buy the entire suite for under $299-00. So far every update they have done from version x to version y has been free, that's major updates, not just minor incremental or bug fix updates.

If you can't afford or justify CS-x you will change to something that works as well and is lighter on the pocket despite the new learning curve.

If you must have Adobe, buy a boxed late model version, install, register and then firewall block it forever. Computer crashes and reinstalls might be problematic however in the future.

There are ample other photo manipulation editor apps that are worth looking at.

05/06/2013 06:51:28 PM · #39

Originally posted by HarveyG:

If you must have Adobe, buy a boxed late model version, install, register and then firewall block it forever. Computer crashes and reinstalls might be problematic however in the future.

curious, those that have cs6 or back wont be forced to upgrade right?

05/06/2013 07:00:04 PM · #40

From a pricing perspective, Adobe is catering to those who own the entire Creative Suite. The $49/mo subscription price looks (a little) better in comparison to the perpetual license than does the single-app $19.99/mo price. How in hell they expect that I will shell out $479.76 over two years for a subscription to Ps, as opposed to upgrading every two years for about $200 is beyond me. That represents a 2.4x price increase. And for the pleasure, I get a subscription that dies the minute I don't shell out the monthly rent.
Adobe, let me tell you how this is supposed to work... I pay you, and in return you provide me something of value. So, if I agree to pay you an extra $279 over two years, what exactly is the added value you are providing? A few interim updates? Really? And I give up my perpetual license in the bargain?? What do you think my name is, Faust?
From an economic standpoint, as a single-app user, I don't see this making sense. Even for the full suite, it would still be more expensive than a 24-month upgrade cycle.
From my perspective, if I have to shell out every month, and give up the right to a perpetual license, it should damn well be cheaper than maintaining a perpetual license!

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05/06/2013 07:03:23 PM · #41

Originally posted by Mike:

curious, those that have cs6 or back wont be forced to upgrade right?

There is no way they can force you. They sold you a perpetual license, 'nuff said. They can, and will, however, coerce you. They will eventually stop providing updates, e.g. no new ACR versions, no bug fixes, no updates for compatibility with new OS versions (though they have committed to compatibility with the next versions of Windows and OS-X).

mariahdc

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05/06/2013 07:08:36 PM · #42

Originally posted by Garry:

I won't spend $29/month on television. Pretty certain I wont be spending that on Adobe products.

This is commercially untenable.

Same here. I also carry a flip phone so that I don't have to pay for a data plan on a smart phone. I'm not about to budget $50 a month for photo editing software when there are other options. I've used PS since the very first version, but whenever my CS5 can't be installed on future machines, I'll switch to something else.

Adobe will keep the commercial clients and major pro's: magazines/newspapers, big websites, and professionals that shoot for National Geographic and the like. But for the semi-pro's on down, it makes no sense to pay $600 a year.

Skip

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05/06/2013 07:28:24 PM · #43

Originally posted by mariahdc:

Adobe will keep the commercial clients and major pro's: magazines/newspapers, big websites, and professionals that shoot for National Geographic and the like. But for the semi-pro's on down, it makes no sense to pay $600 a year.

this will be interesting...i can't follow up until tomorrow, but our local daily has been owned by berkshire-hathaway for about a year now and even though they're no longer on the brink of going out of business, their budgets are still really thin...and they are still using CS2! i imagine that are many, many more corporate installations that are nowhere near current.

Originally posted by kirbic:

boy, is this true. my daughter's 1.5 year old laptop got dropped, busted beyond repair. under warranty, they gave me a new one. with windows 8. that's fine, except that there is no windows 8 driver for our household wireless printer, and since i'll be damned if i'm buying her a printer, she'll have to go to another pc to print files. just wait until your hardware hiccups...then you'll find out how screwed you are.

all these guys, they got us by the short hairs.

Message edited by author 2013-05-06 19:29:51.

MAK

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05/06/2013 07:46:44 PM · #44

I was fortunate to get the CS6 Photoshop and Lightroom 4 from a friend for some work otherwise I'd still be on CS4 but I will NOT be buying any pie in the sky cloud rubbish and adobe have lost my custom.

There are alternatives out there but MAN! CS6 is excellent and I will never need to upgrade, it does everything and more above my ability (so did CS4) so they can do as they please because Im out, but happy.

Piracy plays a big part for sure but I don't think this is a very considerate solution at all.

bhuge

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05/06/2013 07:53:48 PM · #45

Originally posted by MAK:

Piracy plays a big part for sure but I don't think this is a very considerate solution at all.

People that pirate are still going to pirate. No matter what Adobe does, they will find a way. This just screws over the small time pros and hobby people that want to play it straight.

MikeJ

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05/06/2013 08:13:54 PM · #46

Microsoft is going the same route with their Office Products and who knows what else.

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05/06/2013 08:16:40 PM · #47

Originally posted by MikeJ:

Microsoft is going the same route with their Office Products and who knows what else.

Not exactly; MS has not announced that they are discontinuing perpetual licenses. In addition, the Office subscription actually makes some sense, if you have multiple machines, as you can install and use it on up to five computers for the basic price.

Melethia

Canon EOS-80D

05/06/2013 08:18:33 PM · #48

How very sad. Here's hoping some little company out there sees a market and takes advantage of this. We, the hobbyists/small business clients, simply aren't going to make enough of a dent in Adobe's bottom line to have any influence in their marketing decisions. Very sad.

yanko