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 01/03/2013 10:10:02 PM · #1
"Hopefully this tragedy will finally inspire meaningful legislation and whatever other necessary steps to protect the lives and safety of celebrities, police officers, innocent public bystanders, and the photographers themselves."

That was the statement made by Justin Bieber, and echoed by other stars, after a paparazzo was killed while crossing the highway to take pictures of a friend of Bieber's who was driving his car and had been pulled over.

So, thoughts? What legislation should be enacted to restrict dangerous behavior by photographers?
 01/03/2013 10:20:31 PM · #2
seriously? Why would you need to impose legislation on a specific group /profession of people? I would think people could use this example as a reason to switch on the common sense part of their brain!
The government does not need to step in to tell people how and when to cross the road, or do their profession. Every profession has risks and dangers. Each individual is expected to know the dangers and risks and be careful of to avoid them.
 01/03/2013 10:22:48 PM · #3
Originally posted by ShutterPug:
seriously? Why would you need to impose legislation on a specific group /profession of people? I would think people could use this example as a reason to switch on the common sense part of their brain!
The government does not need to step in to tell people how and when to cross the road, or do their profession. Every profession has risks and dangers. Each individual is expected to know the dangers and risks and be careful of to avoid them.


+1
 01/03/2013 10:25:53 PM · #4
I don't think the issue is really "crossing the street", Linda. It's more along the lines of recognizing that the combination of a "free press" and the obsession with celebrity in our culture, globally, has created a situation that's spiraled out of control. Celebrities themselves are complicit in it; they and the tabloid press feed off of each other in a distinctly perverse way. So if there ARE laws to be passed about this, they'd be along the lines of redefining the meaning of "harassment" in the digital age, or something like that.

Message edited by author 2013-01-03 22:26:36.
 01/03/2013 10:29:38 PM · #5
Originally posted by Cory:
So, thoughts? What legislation should be enacted to restrict dangerous behavior by photographers?


The Ban Cory's Mouth Act of 2013? :P
 01/03/2013 11:47:01 PM · #6
[sarcasm] Yeah, more laws will make it safer for everyone! [/sarcasm]
 01/03/2013 11:59:50 PM · #7
BAN ALL CARS!!!

They're evil. They kill people.
01/04/2013 12:01:27 AM · #8
If you try to run across a highway..

Murphy's law?

Message edited by author 2013-01-04 00:02:12.
 01/04/2013 12:10:55 AM · #9
Ban Bieber!
 01/04/2013 12:43:22 AM · #10
Originally posted by skewsme:
Ban Bieber!


+1
 01/04/2013 01:28:25 AM · #11
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I don't think the issue is really "crossing the street", Linda. It's more along the lines of recognizing that the combination of a "free press" and the obsession with celebrity in our culture, globally, has created a situation that's spiraled out of control. Celebrities themselves are complicit in it; they and the tabloid press feed off of each other in a distinctly perverse way. So if there ARE laws to be passed about this, they'd be along the lines of redefining the meaning of "harassment" in the digital age, or something like that.


I would respectfully submit that it is about "crossing the street". No combination of events or situations should override one's common sense in such a basic daily function. I do believe that the government does not need to step in to tell people how and when to cross the road. Their parents/guardians/caregivers should have taught them that at a very young age.

The tendency for simple things to spiral out of control would be evident if such legislation was passed.
 01/04/2013 01:36:38 AM · #12
Latest recipient of the Darwin Awards. You cannot legislate common sense into people, regardless of why they make their stupid decisions.
 01/04/2013 01:36:43 AM · #13
Originally posted by pamb:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I don't think the issue is really "crossing the street", Linda. It's more along the lines of recognizing that the combination of a "free press" and the obsession with celebrity in our culture, globally, has created a situation that's spiraled out of control. Celebrities themselves are complicit in it; they and the tabloid press feed off of each other in a distinctly perverse way. So if there ARE laws to be passed about this, they'd be along the lines of redefining the meaning of "harassment" in the digital age, or something like that.


I would respectfully submit that it is about "crossing the street". No combination of events or situations should override one's common sense in such a basic daily function. I do believe that the government does not need to step in to tell people how and when to cross the road. Their parents/guardians/caregivers should have taught them that at a very young age.

The tendency for simple things to spiral out of control would be evident if such legislation was passed.


I'm fairly certain he was already in violation of several laws, at the least he was jaywalking and disobeying a peace officer, impeding the flow of traffic, potentially illegal parking / obstruction of roadway, and possibly several others as well.

01/04/2013 01:44:34 AM · #14
Originally posted by pixelpig:
Originally posted by skewsme:
Ban Bieber!


+1

+100000000

I've been calling for this since day 1. It's a shame it takes a tragedy like this for us to rally together and burn Bieber's village, but it's never too late - LET'S GO!
 01/04/2013 01:48:13 AM · #15
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by pamb:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I don't think the issue is really "crossing the street", Linda. It's more along the lines of recognizing that the combination of a "free press" and the obsession with celebrity in our culture, globally, has created a situation that's spiraled out of control. Celebrities themselves are complicit in it; they and the tabloid press feed off of each other in a distinctly perverse way. So if there ARE laws to be passed about this, they'd be along the lines of redefining the meaning of "harassment" in the digital age, or something like that.


I would respectfully submit that it is about "crossing the street". No combination of events or situations should override one's common sense in such a basic daily function. I do believe that the government does not need to step in to tell people how and when to cross the road. Their parents/guardians/caregivers should have taught them that at a very young age.

The tendency for simple things to spiral out of control would be evident if such legislation was passed.


I'm fairly certain he was already in violation of several laws, at the least he was jaywalking and disobeying a peace officer, impeding the flow of traffic, potentially illegal parking / obstruction of roadway, and possibly several others as well.


Exactly. Legislation is already in place and he disobeyed heaps of it. Please don't tell me that people actually want even more than what is there already? Look left, look right, follow the laws... not rocket science.
 01/04/2013 02:00:47 AM · #16
Originally posted by pamb:

Originally posted by Cory:

I'm fairly certain he was already in violation of several laws, at the least he was jaywalking and disobeying a peace officer, impeding the flow of traffic, potentially illegal parking / obstruction of roadway, and possibly several others as well.


Exactly. Legislation is already in place and he disobeyed heaps of it. Please don't tell me that people actually want even more than what is there already? Look left, look right, follow the laws... not rocket science.


You'd be surprised at how silly people can be about these things.
 01/04/2013 03:33:20 AM · #17
Originally posted by tanguera:
Latest recipient of the Darwin Awards. You cannot legislate common sense into people, regardless of why they make their stupid decisions.


would to God!
 01/04/2013 04:27:23 AM · #18
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
BAN ALL CARS!!!

They're evil. They kill people.


Perhaps there should be controls to only allow licensed people to use them then apply many laws for how they are allowed to be used... Scrub that, I wouldn't want this thread to get hijacked like others (although, imagine driving on roads where drivers don't have to be licensed and there weren't all of those rules).

Seriously, I work a lot on the tarmacs at airports and received basic training on the dangers present and how to remain safe while working around moving aircraft. I receive that training once and I'm expected to exercise the precautions taught whilst applying common sense. I didn't receive training on how to cross the road to get to the airport as there is an assumption that this training was provided to me by my parents and teachers from a very young age and that I have continued self training on crossing the roads since then. Unfortunately, the photog forgot the basic principles of remaining safe whilst doing his job. Something we should also keep in mind when trying to that perfect shot. Distraction is one of the biggest threat to our safety no matter where we are.
 01/04/2013 04:33:40 AM · #19
Originally posted by tanguera:
Latest recipient of the Darwin Awards. You cannot legislate common sense into people, regardless of why they make their stupid decisions.

+1

Ya can't fix stupid.
 01/04/2013 05:50:39 AM · #20
am i the only one who didn't miss the sarcasm in Cory's OP? you guys are losing your edge...
 01/04/2013 07:25:27 AM · #21
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by tanguera:
Latest recipient of the Darwin Awards. You cannot legislate common sense into people, regardless of why they make their stupid decisions.

+1

Ya can't fix stupid.


+1 for me too. People do dumb things. At least this guy didn't kill anyone else in his stupidity.
 01/04/2013 07:51:46 AM · #22
In a world where Justin Bieber can become such a superstar, no amount of rules and regulations will curve the innate stupidity of the masses.
What is lacking in ourselves that we need such a pathetic celebrity culture ? or maybe I'm just jealouse cause nobody would rip their panties off for me.
 01/04/2013 08:13:25 AM · #23
Originally posted by mike_311:
am i the only one who didn't miss the sarcasm in Cory's OP?

Yes. You are the only one. Thank goodness you enlightened us. Please keep sharing your brilliant and unique perspective gratuitously.
 01/04/2013 08:14:21 AM · #24
Originally posted by mike_311:
am i the only one who didn't miss the sarcasm in Cory's OP? you guys are losing your edge...


No.

BTW - I think we should ban celebrities! I never got the whole thing anyway. So you can sing, that don't impress me much. So you've got a cool car, that don't impress me much. So you look like Brad Pitt, that don't impress me much either.
 01/04/2013 08:17:45 AM · #25
Originally posted by skewsme:
Originally posted by mike_311:
am i the only one who didn't miss the sarcasm in Cory's OP?

Yes. You are the only one. Thank goodness you enlightened us. Please keep sharing your brilliant and unique perspective gratuitously.


someone needs to keep this place in check :P
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