Are gay rights, including gay marriage, evolving?

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12/12/2012 06:41:05 AM · #5902

Originally posted by Flash:

as it is unlikely many posters here regularly read Fox news, thought I'd share this article explaining the role of gene regulation

related article

//www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/12/11/scientists-may-have-finally-unlocked-puzzle-of-why-people-are-gay

i really hope scientists can prove conclusively that homosexuality isn't a choice. Of course it's still apt to be shunned by the religious just like say, evolution.

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Nullix

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12/12/2012 01:30:25 PM · #5903

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by Nullix:
Maybe all of us against same sex marriage should move to Africa.

Where Masturbation and Homosexuality Do Not Exist

... and that is an absolutely novel thought. Let me know when you leave, I might even chip in for the boat ride. :O)

The change of scenery might spark some winning pictures. I'd be just like Joey. (Ya, right!)

myqyl

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12/12/2012 01:31:20 PM · #5904

Originally posted by mike_311:

Originally posted by Flash:
as it is unlikely many posters here regularly read Fox news, thought I'd share this article explaining the role of gene regulation

related article

//www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/12/11/scientists-may-have-finally-unlocked-puzzle-of-why-people-are-gay

i really hope scientists can prove conclusively that homosexuality isn't a choice. Of course it's still apt to be shunned by the religious just like say, evolution.

Just a small point to make here... When you say "it's still apt to be shunned by the religious just like say, evolution." you are practicing the same narrow minded bigotry and sterotyping that you accuse all religious people of practicing... My religion has a saying that before you can help your brother remove the splinter from his eye, you'll need to attend to the log in your own eye. You might want to take this to heart.

Not all religious people dispute evolution, DNA or the rights of members of the Gay community to marry whomever they please.

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12/12/2012 01:49:33 PM · #5905

Originally posted by myqyl:

Not all religious people dispute evolution, DNA or the rights of members of the Gay community to marry whomever they please.

Amen to that. I was raised religious, I sent my kids to Catholic school, I've been around religious communities most of my life, and I've never personally heard any of my acquaintances dispute the reality of evolution. This is a non-issue, except for a certain lunatic-fringe segment of Bible-thumpers...

Mike

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12/12/2012 02:42:47 PM · #5906

Originally posted by myqyl:

Not all religious people dispute evolution, DNA or the rights of members of the Gay community to marry whomever they please.

no kidding?

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12/12/2012 05:36:55 PM · #5907

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by myqyl:
Not all religious people dispute evolution, DNA or the rights of members of the Gay community to marry whomever they please.

Amen to that. I was raised religious, I sent my kids to Catholic school, I've been around religious communities most of my life, and I've never personally heard any of my acquaintances dispute the reality of evolution. This is a non-issue, except for a certain lunatic-fringe segment of Bible-thumpers...

...unfortunately, they are probably the most vocal, seem to get all the press with the ensuing result being that a significant sector of society view this as being representative of the collective.

Ray

myqyl

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12/12/2012 06:59:17 PM · #5908

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by myqyl:
Not all religious people dispute evolution, DNA or the rights of members of the Gay community to marry whomever they please.

Amen to that. I was raised religious, I sent my kids to Catholic school, I've been around religious communities most of my life, and I've never personally heard any of my acquaintances dispute the reality of evolution. This is a non-issue, except for a certain lunatic-fringe segment of Bible-thumpers...

...unfortunately, they are probably the most vocal, seem to get all the press with the ensuing result being that a significant sector of society view this as being representative of the collective.

Ray

Very true... Which is the same problem any group has. The most vocal segment of their group ends up defining them to society as a whole while in fact the most vocal group is likely the least representative. I'm sure many in the Gay community can relate to this problem too. It's just that the rational members of any group don't get interviewed on CNN.

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12/12/2012 10:05:57 PM · #5909

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by myqyl:
Not all religious people dispute evolution, DNA or the rights of members of the Gay community to marry whomever they please.

Amen to that. I was raised religious, I sent my kids to Catholic school, I've been around religious communities most of my life, and I've never personally heard any of my acquaintances dispute the reality of evolution. This is a non-issue, except for a certain lunatic-fringe segment of Bible-thumpers...

While it's obvious that there is always a spectrum, the size of this "fringe" is much larger than you might think, though it surely varies by where you are regionally. I can say with much veracity that in some places, like Colorado, for instance, that a very sizable portion of religious folks adhere to such beliefs. Also consider that while it's true Colorado tends towards conservative presidential candidates, we tend to elect democrats for other offices. And this is true (a significant number who dispute) in my city, which is generally considered one of the more liberal areas of the state, let alone what the climate is in places like Colorado Springs or Grand Junction.

Keep in mind I'm not saying everybody that's religious is ridiculous here, that's certainly not the case, but what I am saying is that there is a good chunk of people who are religious and not what you would generally call Bible-thumpers that do in fact dispute those facts.

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Lydia

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12/12/2012 10:23:06 PM · #5910

Are you people really... STILL... talking about this??!

Seriously?

Seems like I check in every year or so... just to see if you're all still ... actually... really... talking about this.

*shakes head in wonder*

sfalice

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12/19/2012 07:58:04 PM · #5911

Originally posted by LydiaToo:

Lydia - my good friend - yes,this subject is still talked about.
And will be talked about until it is resolved.

It is a venerable thread, started in 2004, briefly stopped in 2008, and restarted by me at that time. I started it in honor of all those who are still struggling with this issue and in memory of my murdered gay brother.

One day, we will all become equal under the law and this thread will undoubtedly become unnecessary.

Until then, Lydia, continue to check back every year or two. You may be surprised. Resolution may be in sight!

scalvert

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12/19/2012 08:08:37 PM · #5912

Originally posted by sfalice:

One day, we will all become equal under the law and this thread will undoubtedly become unnecessary.

By this point, I think we can all agree that the answer to the original question is an unqualified YES.

sfalice

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12/19/2012 08:12:23 PM · #5913

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by sfalice:
One day, we will all become equal under the law and this thread will undoubtedly become unnecessary.

By this point, I think we can all agree that the answer to the original question is an unqualified YES.

Ah, yes, the original question:
Honestly, what's the big deal about Gay Marriage?
truly,

scalvert, time to cut to the chase!

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12/21/2012 06:36:14 PM · #5914

Originally posted by LydiaToo:

I am rather saddened by your comments Lydia.

Perhaps you have not had the opportunity to witness how poorly we as a society treat the gay community.

It is a rather sad comment that the Pope publicly stated that he would be willing to forge an alliance with those faiths who are also opposed to equal marriage rights. Link

To think that this is coming from the leader of a group that was persecuted for years... It truly defies logic.

Ray

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01/12/2013 01:08:10 AM · #5915

This thread needs some contributions by more conservative Christians. Again...

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01/12/2013 07:44:31 AM · #5916

Originally posted by johnnyphoto:

This thread needs some contributions by more conservative Christians. Again...

Why, did they have a sudden change of heart and now believe that equality for ALL is actually a good thing?

Ray

Ann

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01/12/2013 06:00:13 PM · #5917

Originally posted by johnnyphoto:

This thread needs some contributions by more conservative Christians. Again...

The conservative Christians are all busy arguing about guns in another thread.

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01/13/2013 11:34:46 AM · #5918

Message edited by author 2013-01-13 11:35:39.

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01/13/2013 12:22:21 PM · #5919

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Too difficult a concept for some to grasp my friend... truly is.

Ray

David Ey

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01/13/2013 12:33:53 PM · #5920

Wouldn't a simple "they share the same interests" worked just as well?

Bear_Music

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01/13/2013 12:35:34 PM · #5921

Originally posted by David Ey:

Wouldn't a simple "they share the same interests" worked just as well?

"Mom, why are you always hanging around with daddy?"

"We share the same interests."

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01/13/2013 12:43:17 PM · #5922

Originally posted by David Ey:

Wouldn't a simple "they share the same interests" worked just as well?

Whatever for? I have no problem whatsoever explaining to those that would listen that love is not limited to heterosexuals.

Just like I have no problem accepting those that are religious, I have no problem accepting those that are gay... and I am not a participant in either of those lifestyles.

Ray

David Ey

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01/13/2013 02:26:03 PM · #5923

? Well I enforce my beliefs as well

Kelli

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01/13/2013 02:31:48 PM · #5924

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Meet The House GOPâ��s Anti-Science Committee link

Akin wasnâ��t the only sitting committee member to delve into pseudo-science last year. Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) declared a holy war against anyone who doubted whether man and tyrannosaurus lived side by side.

â��All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the Big Bang Theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell,â�� Broun said at a banquet for a church sporting club. â��And itâ��s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.â��

Broun, who added that â��I donâ��t believe that the Earthâ��s but about 9,000 years old,â�� will remain on the science committee in the 113th Congress.