Post the SCORES of your Dynamic DUOTONES!

06/19/2009 01:51:34 AM · #301

Ive been playing around with a lot of duotone images in the last couple months since it seemed to be the next step in my walk in photography. That said I felt comfortable with this challenge. Im not disappointed in my score all that much. Im just upset that people marked it down for an "apparent horizon shift" when I straightened the horizon I could tell no difference because of the hills in the pic. It all goes away when I see the favorite added by someone. It brings a :) to my face.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

06/19/2009 01:58:09 AM · #302

Originally posted by mgarsteck:

Awww....no fave and no comment from you. Now I is sad!

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

06/19/2009 02:02:26 AM · #303

up-down-down-up-up-down-down-down :)

06/19/2009 02:03:29 AM · #304

Originally posted by kiwiness:

up-down-down-up-up-down-down-down :)

Hey now...this is a family site!!!!!

06/19/2009 02:03:50 AM · #305

I dont ever label a picture as a favorite... But....

06/19/2009 02:04:57 AM · #306

Originally posted by mgarsteck:

I dont ever label a picture as a favorite... But....

Well you did label mine as a fave...but not on this challenge....not telling ya which one it is though!!! Hehehehe!

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

06/19/2009 02:11:54 AM · #307

I know, so i probably will have to guess. I'll tell ya whenever you get back online when you are done with all that work and whatnot.

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

06/19/2009 04:02:13 AM · #308

Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by kiwiness:
up-down-down-up-up-down-down-down :)

Hey now...this is a family site!!!!!

Trust you not to see it the way I meant it :)

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 ASPH

06/19/2009 04:03:22 AM · #309

Well, it is Judi... ;)

ThingFish

Olympus OM-D E-M5

06/19/2009 04:06:34 AM · #310

Originally posted by Blue Moon:

I must say that I strongly disagree with the definition of a duotone (*)in the challenge details. Based on classes I've taken and plenty of research, a monochromatic image can be a duotone, but Black/White alone is NOT a duotone. My understanding is that it's any image that was (but not in all cases) a black and white image that had color overlayed onto it. Sepia (*), a cyanotype (*) or any other color fits the definition. Having said that, I think that people are also getting confused about duotone vs. Split tone. A split tone (*) is an image that has a color that show up in the highlights and a different color that shows up in the shadows. This differs from a duotone because not only does it use 2 color overlays instead of 1, but also, the colors in a duotone most often only show up most predominantely in the midtones.

Having this as my knowledge, I voted in a stricter manner than I usually do. I won't give you my exact specifications, but if an image did not fit what a duotone is in my eyes, I knocked off 1 or 2 points, great image or not. I hope that gives some people an insight into their scores and makes them reconsider the scores they may have given.

I think this might clear up the confusion about the question of black and white and sepia being included in the challenge description. It did for me.
There is something called a black and white duotone and that is not the same as a normal black and white monochrome. The challenge description talks about a black and white or sepia duotone not a black and white or sepia monochrome.

Understanding What a Duotone Is: From Luminious-Landscape.
A Duotone is a wonderful way to make a monochrome print. Experienced printers know that Epson's Photo printers, as good as they are â�� and they are the elite of the inkjet printer world â�� don't do a terribly good job printing B&W images. The reason for this is that an 8 bit monochrome image has 256 black tones. But the dithering pattern used by inkjet printers can't produce 256 different tones from just 1 shade of black ink. If you print an image in full colour mode the printer's software tries to create a monochrome print from the 4 or 6 inks available, but usually produces an unpredictable overall tonal colouration. It just wasn't designed for the job.

A Duotone takes a monochrome grayscale image and allows you to take the tonal range, from lightest tones to darkest, and allocate a different colour to specific part of the tonal range. You can for example make the highlights red and the shadows green (though you're unlikely to want to). What you may want to do though, as in the combination called yellow bl 4 that Adobe provides with Photoshop 6, is to combine black and yellow so that they produce the tonalities seen in my example image below called Point Pelee Fisherman. Other combinations that work well are black and medium-blue, or black and cyan, or black and brown.

Typically you'll use black for the shadows and a lighter tone of another colour for the midtones and highlights. Though we won't be getting into them here, with Tritones and Quadtones you can use a third or fourth colour as well for finer gradations of control. It takes a while to master Duotones so leave Tritones and Quadtones for later when you feel the need for greater flexibility and have mastered Duotones.
//www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/duotone.shtml

More specifics:
Duotone is a halftone reproduction of an image using the superimposition of a contrasty black halftone over a one color halftone. This is most often used to bring out middle tones and highlights of an image. The most common colors used are blue, yellow, browns and reds.
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duotone

Monochrome comes from the Greek μονόχρωμος (monochromos), meaning â��one colorâ��, which is a combination of μόνος (monos), meaning â��aloneâ�� or â��solitaryâ��, and χρῶμα (chroma), meaning â��colorâ��.[1] Monochromatic light is light of a single wavelength, though in practice it can refer to light of a narrow wavelength range. A monochromatic object or image is one whose range of colors consists of shades of a single color or hue; monochrome images in neutral colors are also known as grayscale or black-and-white.
//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochromatic

This article describes the differences very clearly and how to achieve them with examples:
//forrestcroce.com/Articles/DigitalBlackAndWhite.html

More about SEPIA:
If an image is truly Sepia toned, (by a strict Sepia definition), it must technically be completely monochrome. This means that it only contain shades of brown, much like a black and white photograph only contains shades of gray.
//www.easyelements.com/what-is-sepia.html

ThingFish

Olympus OM-D E-M5

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 ASPH

06/19/2009 04:11:18 AM · #311

[quote=Jutilda] Originally posted by Blue Moonif an image did not fit what a duotone is in my eyes, I knocked off 1 or 2 points,
But the problem with that is that others followed the rules of the competition. I agree that black and white does not a duotone make, but since it specifically allowed it in the directive, why punish someone for following the rules?

I think what is meant in the directive is a black and white duotone not a black and white monochrome. There is the difference.

Message edited by author 2009-06-19 04:40:30.

Mark-A

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/19/2009 04:25:29 AM · #312

Good god why can't people just enjoy the images and give a little bit of slack when the descriptions and titles are not 100% clear, instead of going in to Poirot mode just to justify marking down certain images why not vote how you like (no one can change that anyway) and keep all the longwinded defence posts to yourselves?

Sheesh I really should just give up...

dougi555

Nikon D800

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

06/19/2009 04:32:36 AM · #313

Originally posted by Mark-A:

what he said..............! just enjoy yourselves.......!

ThingFish

Olympus OM-D E-M5

Panasonic Leica DG Vario-Elmarit 8-18mm f/2.8-4 ASPH

06/19/2009 04:37:56 AM · #314

Duotones IV
Votes: 102
Views: 169
Avg Vote: 5.2549
Comments: 5
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 06/19/09 04:37 am

timfythetoo

Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max

06/19/2009 05:26:58 AM · #315

Originally posted by kiwiness:

up-down-down-up-up-down-down-down :)

Funny - mine is just the opposite.

kiwiness

Canon Canon 1d x Mark II

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

06/19/2009 05:45:58 AM · #316

Originally posted by timfythetoo:

Originally posted by kiwiness:
up-down-down-up-up-down-down-down :)

Funny - mine is just the opposite.

More ups than downs?

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

06/19/2009 05:50:25 AM · #317

Originally posted by kiwiness:

Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by kiwiness:
up-down-down-up-up-down-down-down :)

Hey now...this is a family site!!!!!

Trust you not to see it the way I meant it :)

Sorry. I think I should just shut my mouth now. Go back to being the Miss Innocent that I used to be.

timfythetoo

Apple iPhone 16 Pro Max

06/19/2009 05:51:58 AM · #318

Originally posted by kiwiness:

More ups than downs?

At the moment. But that will probably change soon. Maybe my ups are counter to your downs and vice versa.

suemack

Canon EOS-20D

06/19/2009 06:22:34 AM · #319

Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by kiwiness:

Originally posted by Judi:

Originally posted by kiwiness:
up-down-down-up-up-down-down-down :)

Hey now...this is a family site!!!!!

Trust you not to see it the way I meant it :)

Sorry. I think I should just shut my mouth now. Go back to being the Miss Innocent that I used to be.

Judi, don't ever stop being yourself ....... you have a wonderful sense of humour, a quick wit and you take real gud photos!!!

Oops ..... and write great tutorials, give advice when people need it

Message edited by author 2009-06-19 06:23:41.

Jutilda