Jill Greenberg style what do you think?

Nikon AF Zoom-Nikkor 24-85mm f2.8-4.0D

04/21/2009 10:17:35 PM · #1

I was testing out some lighting and wanted to try Jill Greenberg style of pic.

Am I close? Thoughts?

My son Kai

ETA After a closer look, I really need a light from the top.

Message edited by author 2009-04-21 22:19:24.

Nikolai1024

Nikon D300

04/21/2009 10:41:52 PM · #2

I would say YES. Just don't forget your own style while imitating others.

LMA128

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04/21/2009 10:44:52 PM · #3

looks awesome! what a great style she has on her pictures!

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

04/21/2009 11:47:17 PM · #4

Excellent work. Two thoughts: 1. You can raise the softbox on the right and lower the one on left to get light on top of the hair. 2. A light application of Topaz Adjust would really nail Greenberg's style IMO.

04/21/2009 11:55:26 PM · #5

Originally posted by scalvert:

Thx. when you say a light application of Topaz adjust, do you mean using one ofthe presets or is there a specific adjustment you were referring to?

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

04/22/2009 12:10:14 AM · #6

Originally posted by LVicari:

when you say a light application of Topaz adjust, do you mean using one ofthe presets or is there a specific adjustment you were referring to?

Oh, I don't even own it, but Topaz Adjust and LucisArts filters both produce an HDR-ish look that will appear similar to Greenberg's work (just don't go overboard with the filter).

Panasonic Lumix 20mm f1.7 ASPH

04/22/2009 12:28:19 AM · #7

How about this one?

My daughter Alia

heavyj

Panasonic Lumix DMC-GH4

04/22/2009 12:52:50 AM · #8

I think the one of your son is more what you are going for. The one of your daughter is still pretty cute though.

MattO

Nikon D4

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04/22/2009 12:55:08 AM · #9

Originally posted by heavyj:

I think the one of your son is more what you are going for. The one of your daughter is still pretty cute though.

I agree but its too blown on the highlights.

Matt

04/22/2009 06:58:39 AM · #10

bump for morning crowd

Mark-A

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

04/22/2009 07:07:06 AM · #11

Loving the shot of the lad it's very close indeed to her style.

I personally don't like to see this sort of treatment on very young children I don't think their skin takes to it at all, so for me that one doesn't work.

Gordon

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04/22/2009 09:07:20 AM · #12

Originally posted by MattO:

Originally posted by heavyj:
I think the one of your son is more what you are going for. The one of your daughter is still pretty cute though.

I agree but its too blown on the highlights.

Matt

That's pretty much her style though. Blown highlights isn't always the crime that some people believe it is.

Pentax D-FA* 70-200mm f/2.8 ED DC AW

04/22/2009 03:37:42 PM · #13

I think I am getting closer

My daughter Alia (a little annoyed with the picture session)

K3Master

Pentax K-3

04/22/2009 03:38:47 PM · #14

Originally posted by LVicari:

I think I am getting closer

My daughter Alia (a little annoyed with the picture session)

much closer, but you still need to control those highlights a little more.

Well, let me qualify that. Having blown highlights, as Gordon said, isn't always a bad thing, but they should be used to effect. In Greenberg's work, the blown highlights that are there are generally used to effect in order to frame and highlight the subject. In your case, here, they distract by being too much OF the subject.

At least, that's how I see it.

Message edited by author 2009-04-22 15:41:38.

Dirt_Diver

Nikon D3s

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/22/2009 03:42:03 PM · #15

Jill doesn't use Topaz at all, it's all photoshop and lights.

04/22/2009 03:42:47 PM · #16

Still too much of a difference between the hilites and the front of the face. If you notice her pics,do you think there is about a 1 stop difference between the sides and the front of the face? Or is it less?

I really need a patient model so I can use the light meter to balance properly.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/22/2009 03:45:10 PM · #17

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

Jill doesn't use Topaz at all, it's all photoshop and lights.

I actually only used Topaz to sharpen slightly. The Clarify preset. The rest is all dodge/burn and noise reduction with masks for certain areas.

Dirt_Diver

Nikon D3s

04/22/2009 04:06:01 PM · #18

You have majority of it right. She uses two brolly flashes on the subjects left and right along with a softbox flash just above the subject for a hair light, and she shoots through a ring flash. I have seen some videos on her where she uses some right lights on the sides but to get that really great almost super strong lighting she uses the regular flashes with umbrellas.

Yours id very close to what she has, instead of dodging and burning use paint with light instead. She does do some slight D&B but that's old school for her now. Mostly adjustments to make a darker and brighter layer then uses PWL to fade the shadows and highlights.

Message edited by author 2009-04-22 16:06:56.

Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM

04/22/2009 04:20:37 PM · #19

Originally posted by Dirt_Diver:

AH yes the PWL trick! Why didn't I think of that. Definitely much better results that D&B. I will try that on the next set of pics. Hopefully tonite I will get a chance to get it right.

Bebe

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

04/22/2009 04:35:27 PM · #20

I think you're really pretty close - I'm watching this with fascination; thanks for posting it!