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10/30/2008 01:51:49 PM · #676 |
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm not particularly nationalistic, but here's why I love living in Canada. So I'm off to the Horton's for a round of coffees for the guys in the office. (You see, I'm the world's greatest boss.) Who should be coming down University Avenue in the opposite direction? None other than Jack Layton. Alone, no handlers, no security detail, no entourage, just the leader of the NDP, the man holding the balance of power with the Bloc in the Canadian parliament to take down the current government. "Hey, Jack," someone says walking past, and he gives a smile and nod. Yep, Canada's the place for me. |
i think i might come be all canadian for a bit if McCain wins. of course i feel completely useless since i cant vote. i volunteer though:) yeh, canada sounds so appealing at times |
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10/30/2008 01:53:46 PM · #677 |
Originally posted by JDubsgirl:
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm not particularly nationalistic, but here's why I love living in Canada. So I'm off to the Horton's for a round of coffees for the guys in the office. (You see, I'm the world's greatest boss.) Who should be coming down University Avenue in the opposite direction? None other than Jack Layton. Alone, no handlers, no security detail, no entourage, just the leader of the NDP, the man holding the balance of power with the Bloc in the Canadian parliament to take down the current government. "Hey, Jack," someone says walking past, and he gives a smile and nod. Yep, Canada's the place for me. |
i think i might come be all canadian for a bit if McCain wins. of course i feel completely useless since i cant vote. i volunteer though:) yeh, canada sounds so appealing at times |
Time to be a dual citizen baby. All of us are doing it! |
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10/30/2008 01:55:12 PM · #678 |
Originally posted by Flash:
Originally posted by bmartuch:
Originally posted by Flash:
My point is simply that the liberal platform is to take money from others to pay for their causes while the conservative platform is for each to support the causes of their choice. To me, I prefer the later. I think it is the better formula. |
I didn't want my tax dollars to support the war in Iraq because I didn't feel it was ethical, but I didn't get a choice. If everyone in this country had their choice for their tax dollars to support only the causes they believe in, that war would have been over years ago because it would have been defunded. |
Please keep my posts in context. The point was referring to charitable donations. Not funding enterprises required by the constitution - such as national defense. |
Invading Iraq was hardly national defense, don't delude yourself. |
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10/30/2008 01:58:47 PM · #679 |
Originally posted by Flash:
Please continue to hold your breath. Keep holding. Keep holding. Keep holding. Keep holding. Not yet. Keep holding. In fact why breathe at all? Your snide comments are beginning to wear thin. |
Nope! Wasn't worth the wait!
Truth be told, I really don't expect you to respond to my comments at all.
It's not like you make much sense, and then when you're called out on it, you either don't answer or you go off......somewhere....
Like the Hummer rationale.....but like you said in the other forum.....you just stir the pot here, right?
You don't actually mean what you wrote about that, right?
Oh, and just 'cause it drives me nuts to see it......DISINGENUOUS!
There's no f*cking i in the word!
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10/30/2008 02:00:18 PM · #680 |
Originally posted by Flash:
[Please keep my posts in context. The point was referring to charitable donations. Not funding enterprises required by the constitution - such as national defense. |
Speaking of context....how is the war in Iraq a national defense thing?
ETA: Oops! Slow on the uptake, right there with ya, Spaz!
Message edited by author 2008-10-30 14:01:15.
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10/30/2008 02:03:22 PM · #681 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Flash:
Please continue to hold your breath. Keep holding. Keep holding. Keep holding. Keep holding. Not yet. Keep holding. In fact why breathe at all? Your snide comments are beginning to wear thin. |
Nope! Wasn't worth the wait!
Truth be told, I really don't expect you to respond to my comments at all.
It's not like you make much sense, and then when you're called out on it, you either don't answer or you go off......somewhere....
Like the Hummer rationale.....but like you said in the other forum.....you just stir the pot here, right?
You don't actually mean what you wrote about that, right?
Oh, and just 'cause it drives me nuts to see it......DISINGENUOUS!
There's no f*cking i in the word! |
I can see why Flash likes McCain. Even McCain has a similar personality. He listens to only what he wants to, ignores the rest, then talks about what he likes, ignoring the questions. The debates are a living proof.
We dont need such a tight gripped prez. |
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10/30/2008 02:08:28 PM · #682 |
And back to the election, this article really cracked me up today... link
Also, a âtop McCain adviserâ told Mike Allen of Politico that Palin is âa whack job.â
Maybe she is. But who chose to put this âwhack jobâ on the ticket? Wasnât it John McCain? And wasnât it his first presidential-level decision?
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10/30/2008 02:09:07 PM · #683 |
Originally posted by Prash:
I can see why Flash likes McCain. Even McCain has a similar personality. He listens to only what he wants to, ignores the rest, then talks about what he likes, ignoring the questions. The debates are a living proof. |
I noticed that.....I thought it was just me transferring my views of him, on him.
Originally posted by Prash:
We dont need such a tight gripped prez. |
Don't you mean light gripped?
As in a light grip on reality?......8>)
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10/30/2008 02:09:27 PM · #684 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I will say that simply demonizing the Right, as has been done in the last dozen posts, is no more productive than the Right demonizing the Left. I saw some blanket statements up above and I think they are frankly pretty silly. |
It's hard for common sense to gain any traction, isnt it? |
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10/30/2008 02:16:41 PM · #685 |
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10/30/2008 02:21:17 PM · #686 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Prash:
I can see why Flash likes McCain. Even McCain has a similar personality. He listens to only what he wants to, ignores the rest, then talks about what he likes, ignoring the questions. The debates are a living proof. |
I noticed that.....I thought it was just me transferring my views of him, on him.
Originally posted by Prash:
We dont need such a tight gripped prez. |
Don't you mean light gripped?
As in a light grip on reality?......8>) |
:-)
Actually I meant tight gripped as in tight gripped between ones prejudices and preconceptions and a huge ego. |
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10/30/2008 02:23:29 PM · #687 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Actually I meant tight gripped as in tight gripped between ones prejudices and preconceptions and a huge ego. |
Oh, my mistake!
Carry on!.....8>)
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10/30/2008 02:24:01 PM · #688 |
Those are some beautiful pictures. The text reminds me somewhat of my own childhood in the early seventies in Burlington, Ontario. We moved from Toronto when I was about seven. It wasn't until I was sixteen or seventeen that I saw someone black, in person. That still surprises me. |
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10/30/2008 02:29:56 PM · #689 |
Originally posted by Louis:
Those are some beautiful pictures. The text reminds me somewhat of my own childhood in the early seventies in Burlington, Ontario. We moved from Toronto when I was about seven. It wasn't until I was sixteen or seventeen that I saw someone black, in person. That still surprises me. |
Yes beautiful photo essay. Thanks for sharing, Gordon! |
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10/30/2008 02:50:17 PM · #690 |
Originally posted by Flash:
If Republicans had the money Obama has, the left would be charging them with "buying the election". |
So, how do you feel about McCain spending $86 million taxpayer dollars instead of soliciting voluntary, private contributions?
I'm pretty sure this is the first (Presidential election) year that Democrats have raised more campaign contributions than the Republicans. |
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10/30/2008 03:02:03 PM · #691 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Flash:
If Republicans had the money Obama has, the left would be charging them with "buying the election". |
So, how do you feel about McCain spending $86 million taxpayer dollars instead of soliciting voluntary, private contributions? |
LOL |
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10/30/2008 03:02:16 PM · #692 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Flash:
If Republicans had the money Obama has, the left would be charging them with "buying the election". |
So, how do you feel about McCain spending $86 million taxpayer dollars instead of soliciting voluntary, private contributions?
I'm pretty sure this is the first (Presidential election) year that Democrats have raised more campaign contributions than the Republicans. |
Interesting stats about that. And, Obama is "the first major-party candidate since the system was created to decline taxpayers' money for the general election".
Message edited by author 2008-10-30 15:03:26. |
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10/30/2008 03:03:53 PM · #693 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Flash:
If Republicans had the money Obama has, the left would be charging them with "buying the election". |
So, how do you feel about McCain spending $86 million taxpayer dollars instead of soliciting voluntary, private contributions? |
LOL |
:-)
I wonder where the thick skin disappears when faced with facts. |
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10/30/2008 03:07:10 PM · #694 |
Originally posted by Prash:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Flash:
If Republicans had the money Obama has, the left would be charging them with "buying the election". |
So, how do you feel about McCain spending $86 million taxpayer dollars instead of soliciting voluntary, private contributions? |
LOL |
:-)
I wonder where the thick skin disappears when faced with facts. |
Flash is armor plating his Hummer. |
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10/30/2008 03:37:33 PM · #695 |
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
What a Hummer says about the driver:
1. I don't give a F about the environment.
2. I squander resources because I can so F you.
3. I don't really give a F about anyone else.
4a. I have "Little Man Disease". Look at my "Big Truck".
4b. I'm empowered. Look at my "Big Truck".
5. Let them eat cake. |
If you feel so strongly about this then maybe you might want to go spend a couple months in a few 4x4/offroad forums and educate them. Or you could just stay here in the comfort of the like minded people and just whine about it. |
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10/30/2008 03:45:44 PM · #696 |
| You don't have to be obnoxious to be right. |
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10/30/2008 03:45:46 PM · #697 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
What a Hummer says about the driver:
1. I don't give a F about the environment.
2. I squander resources because I can so F you.
3. I don't really give a F about anyone else.
4a. I have "Little Man Disease". Look at my "Big Truck".
4b. I'm empowered. Look at my "Big Truck".
5. Let them eat cake. |
Oh.....and the H3 isn't even a real Hummer. |
This of course is DP challenge and I cahllenge you to go spend several months in an opposing views forum (say a 4x4/offroad/Hummer Forum) as I have done here and express your convictions. I doubt you'll have the stomach for it. Or you can keep within the safety of those who think like you do and pile on the one under attack. And people question why I think as I do. If you want to change my mind as Eqsite has done, then you could start by matching his stand up presentations.
Message edited by author 2008-10-30 15:48:13. |
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10/30/2008 03:46:48 PM · #698 |
Originally posted by Flash:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
What a Hummer says about the driver:
1. I don't give a F about the environment.
2. I squander resources because I can so F you.
3. I don't really give a F about anyone else.
4a. I have "Little Man Disease". Look at my "Big Truck".
4b. I'm empowered. Look at my "Big Truck".
5. Let them eat cake. |
If you feel so strongly about this then maybe you might want to go spend a couple months in a few 4x4/offroad forums and educate them. Or you could just stay here in the comfort of the like minded people and just whine about it. |
Interesting you should bring this up. As for forums that are dedicated to a certain thing/idea/lifestyle/whatever, the reason people of like mind band together is because it gives them a sense of belonging, and doesn't really have much to do with any sense of reality.
Growing up in Alberta, and having many, many friends and family and friends of friends and family that are AVID off-roaders, I can guarantee you one thing: Hummers (outside of the original army issue), are almost universally derided by 4x4/off-road enthusiasts. The H2/H3 are built for one reason and one reason only, status symbols. They are pretty much useless for any kind of serious off-roading, are built for street driving, and do indeed only say the things that Spazmo lists. Now, owning an original Hummer is better, but you're still going to be seen in most off-road circles as being more than just a little bit over-indulgent.
This is a society of over-indulgence though, and you don't care anyway, as you're just here to stir things up and laugh at all the answers you get, so happy Hummering and thank you very much for contributing to the problems that you'll never admit to existing. |
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10/30/2008 03:47:01 PM · #699 |
Originally posted by Flash:
Originally posted by Spazmo99:
What a Hummer says about the driver:
1. I don't give a F about the environment.
2. I squander resources because I can so F you.
3. I don't really give a F about anyone else.
4a. I have "Little Man Disease". Look at my "Big Truck".
4b. I'm empowered. Look at my "Big Truck".
5. Let them eat cake. |
If you feel so strongly about this then maybe you might want to go spend a couple months in a few 4x4/offroad forums and educate them. Or you could just stay here in the comfort of the like minded people and just whine about it. |
Why? I have no interest in 4x4's or offroading and I don't care to participate in forums devoted to such topics (unlike some others here). I'm sure the Hummer fans know what driving a Hummer says to others and don't really care (See items 1-3). And anyway, who's whining? It's not my job to educate them, and obviously they just don't care, have deep-seated issues of inadequacy or both.
Message edited by author 2008-10-30 16:06:32. |
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10/30/2008 03:50:04 PM · #700 |
Originally posted by Flash:
If you want to change my mind as Eqite has done... |
He changed your mind? It seems to me you only gave him credit when he defended something you already believe.
Originally posted by Flash:
Regardless of whether you accept this or not, your stance in this post has given you immense respect with me. To actually type what was obviously true in the midst of this pool of sharks is remarkable to me. |
Doesn't sound like he changed your mind about anything. Is there some dramatic shift of position you've had? Please share it.
Message edited by author 2008-10-30 15:51:11. |
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