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10/01/2008 01:37:29 PM · #76 |
| In this challenge, I wish someone would chop MY head off... |
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10/01/2008 01:38:53 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by bauerfan71:
Why am I getting comments reccommending I do things that aren't legal in basic?
Some cruel joke? |
I've made a couple of comments so far while voting, and in one case I did mention the portrait would be stronger without a particular background blemish. Yes, some minor things could be fixed with advanced rules that aren't allowed with basic. However, some things could be caught and modified BEFORE pressing the shutter button.
Just an observation. |
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10/01/2008 01:52:57 PM · #78 |
Originally posted by crabappl3:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I gotta admit, I gave out lower scores for chopped off heads. Just a personal preference I guess, so sorry chopped off heads people. |
Thanks for the low score on an otherwise beautiful portrait... nice narrow mindedness you have there!
-danny |
How do you know what I gave out as a low score. I gave a 1 chopped off head a 9 at one point. And if you knew me, you would also know I am not in the least narrow minded. But the way I vote is up to me, just as it is with you. My personal preference is not to have a chopped off head, to me it ruins a picture. In some as I had stated a lot earlier in this thread, there where a handful that this worked really well with.
I gave out 5 10's
1 9
4 8's
and 9 7's
the rest where 6 and below.
Message edited by author 2008-10-01 13:54:29. |
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10/01/2008 02:01:33 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by Pikkel:
just because a picture is not taken INDOORS does not make it NOT a studio shot......you guys amaze me.......the world is our canvas yet apparently unless it is setup in a sterile inclosed environment it doesn't count........sheesh lol ok I'm off my high horse |
Ummm, no offence intended but how can you take a studio portrait outside of the studio? If the challenge was simply "portrait" I would totally agree with you, however the challenge is "studio portrait". And there is no way anyone will convince me that a nature or landscape photo entered into a studio portrait challenge should be allowed no matter what they title it!
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10/01/2008 02:04:53 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by basssman7:
Originally posted by Pikkel:
just because a picture is not taken INDOORS does not make it NOT a studio shot......you guys amaze me.......the world is our canvas yet apparently unless it is setup in a sterile inclosed environment it doesn't count........sheesh lol ok I'm off my high horse |
Ummm, no offence intended but how can you take a studio portrait outside of the studio? If the challenge was simply "portrait" I would totally agree with you, however the challenge is "studio portrait". And there is no way anyone will convince me that a nature or landscape photo entered into a studio portrait challenge should be allowed no matter what they title it! |
I Agree |
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10/01/2008 02:05:01 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I gotta admit, I gave out lower scores for chopped off heads. Just a personal preference I guess, so sorry chopped off heads people. |
Cropping the top of the head (typically above the eyebrows or halfway through the hair) is a common technique of classic portrait photography. You'll find many examples in the portfolio of  Librodo (quite possibly DPC's top portrait photographer) and among the highest rated photos. |
True, but cropping off just the top 3 or 4 hairs is not a recognized technique |
This is just a color studio portrait challenge. It doesn't require any specific techniques so whether a technique is recognized or not is irrelevent. Even if cropping 3-4 hairs was a mistake and not a compositional choice does it really matter? Does a portrait have to be absolutely perfect, crafted by a master? If so we better save the ribbons for another day. |
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10/01/2008 02:15:02 PM · #82 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by eyewave:
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I gotta admit, I gave out lower scores for chopped off heads. Just a personal preference I guess, so sorry chopped off heads people. |
Cropping the top of the head (typically above the eyebrows or halfway through the hair) is a common technique of classic portrait photography. You'll find many examples in the portfolio of Librodo (quite possibly DPC's top portrait photographer) and among the highest rated photos. |
True, but cropping off just the top 3 or 4 hairs is not a recognized technique |
This is just a color studio portrait challenge. It doesn't require any specific techniques so whether a technique is recognized or not is irrelevent. Even if cropping 3-4 hairs was a mistake and not a compositional choice does it really matter? Does a portrait have to be absolutely perfect, crafted by a master? If so we better save the ribbons for another day. |
Sorry you didn't get the irony here. Of course itdoesn't have to be perfect, that's why we have votes from 10 to 1. I, for one, deduct points for accidental crops. |
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10/01/2008 02:16:29 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
Originally posted by basssman7:
Originally posted by Pikkel:
just because a picture is not taken INDOORS does not make it NOT a studio shot......you guys amaze me.......the world is our canvas yet apparently unless it is setup in a sterile inclosed environment it doesn't count........sheesh lol ok I'm off my high horse |
Ummm, no offence intended but how can you take a studio portrait outside of the studio? If the challenge was simply "portrait" I would totally agree with you, however the challenge is "studio portrait". And there is no way anyone will convince me that a nature or landscape photo entered into a studio portrait challenge should be allowed no matter what they title it! |
I Agree |
because a studio is a persons work space well mine just happens to be outside and therefor it is a studio I do not see where a studio is defined as having to be in six walls......... "The etymology for the word "studio" is derived from the Italian word, from Latin studium, from studere, meaning to study or zeal".. how does that come up defined as an enclosed space?
"A photographic studio is both a workspace and a corporate body. As a workspace it provides space to take, develop, print and duplicate photographs"
still not seeing it being defined as having to be enclosed.......
are artists not supposed to be known for having open minds?
"A portrait is a painting, photograph, sculpture, or other artistic representation of a person, in which the face and its expression is predominant. The intent is to display the likeness, personality, and even the mood of the person. For this reason, in photography a portrait is generally not a snapshot, but a composed image of a person in a still position. A portrait often shows a person looking directly at the painter or photographer, in order to most successfully engage the subject with the viewer.".....hmmmmmmmm yep posing a person outside can most definetly incorporate these definitions.........
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10/01/2008 02:19:50 PM · #84 |
Originally posted by Pikkel:
Originally posted by elwoodsplace:
Originally posted by basssman7:
Originally posted by Pikkel:
just because a picture is not taken INDOORS does not make it NOT a studio shot......you guys amaze me.......the world is our canvas yet apparently unless it is setup in a sterile inclosed environment it doesn't count........sheesh lol ok I'm off my high horse |
Ummm, no offence intended but how can you take a studio portrait outside of the studio? If the challenge was simply "portrait" I would totally agree with you, however the challenge is "studio portrait". And there is no way anyone will convince me that a nature or landscape photo entered into a studio portrait challenge should be allowed no matter what they title it! |
I Agree |
because a studio is a persons work space well mine just happens to be outside and therefor it is a studio I do not see where a studio is defined as having to be in six walls......... "The etymology for the word "studio" is derived from the Italian word, from Latin studium, from studere, meaning to study or zeal".. how does that come up defined as an enclosed space?
"A photographic studio is both a workspace and a corporate body. As a workspace it provides space to take, develop, print and duplicate photographs"
still not seeing it being defined as having to be enclosed.......
are artists not supposed to be known for having open minds?
"A portrait is a painting, photograph, sculpture, or other artistic representation of a person, in which the face and its expression is predominant. The intent is to display the likeness, personality, and even the mood of the person. For this reason, in photography a portrait is generally not a snapshot, but a composed image of a person in a still position. A portrait often shows a person looking directly at the painter or photographer, in order to most successfully engage the subject with the viewer.".....hmmmmmmmm yep posing a person outside can most definetly incorporate these definitions......... |
Congratulations. You've not only talked yourself outside of the box, you've convinced yourself that the box never existed in the first place. Apply the same line of thinking to every challenge and finding a suitable entry becomes a non-issue. |
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10/01/2008 02:20:13 PM · #85 |
hear hear
this is for YANKOS comment
Message edited by author 2008-10-01 14:22:32. |
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10/01/2008 02:35:38 PM · #86 |
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10/01/2008 02:37:15 PM · #87 |
My second validation request in a week and a mediocre score, maybe I should've just entered the PJs challenge hehe.
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10/01/2008 02:38:47 PM · #88 |
so your definition of a studio, because you think it is, is the correct one? Had the challenge been a portrait in an indoor studio I might agree with you but that was not and as I believe the subject of the challenge having to be enclosed within walls was discussed prior to the entry deadline........so you are nixing anyone who has chosen to build their studio in an environment that is not enclosed ?...so would a cave be permissiable for your definition of a studio?
Message edited by author 2008-10-01 14:41:34. |
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10/01/2008 02:44:45 PM · #89 |
Originally posted by Pikkel:
so your definition of a studio, because you think it is, is the correct one? Had the challenge been a portrait in an indoor studio I might agree with you but that was not and as I believe the subject of the challenge having to be enclosed within walls was discussed prior to the entry deadline........so you are nixing anyone who has chosen to build their studio in an environment that is not enclosed ?...so would a cave be permissiable for your definition of a studio? |
I've offered no definition of my own. I merely congratulated you on convincing yourself that there was no definition to begin with. |
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10/01/2008 02:48:15 PM · #90 |
Originally posted by violinist123:
Originally posted by Pikkel:
so your definition of a studio, because you think it is, is the correct one? Had the challenge been a portrait in an indoor studio I might agree with you but that was not and as I believe the subject of the challenge having to be enclosed within walls was discussed prior to the entry deadline........so you are nixing anyone who has chosen to build their studio in an environment that is not enclosed ?...so would a cave be permissiable for your definition of a studio? |
I've offered no definition of my own. I merely congratulated you on convincing yourself that there was no definition to begin with. |
ok
but I did not convince myself there was no definition I researched what is defined as a studio and the stereo typical one is not as black and white as it appears entries are being judged as. |
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10/01/2008 03:01:24 PM · #91 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
I suspect at least some of the non-studio portrait shots were misplaced free study entries, but I've also seen votes of 1 or 2 on very obviously above average studio portrait entries. Not cool. |
Does site council have access to the running histogram of scores for entries during challenges? Does SC vote during challenges? Just curious... |
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10/01/2008 03:10:04 PM · #92 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Does site council have access to the running histogram of scores for entries during challenges? Does SC vote during challenges? Just curious... |
Well, technically "yes" to both questions, although I was referring to low votes my own entry. ;-P
We don't see scores, but could look up the histogram on a particular entry if needed (generally issues of buddy voting or ghost accounts). We're very conscious of fair voting, and I know at least some SC members won't even look at a validation request until they've voted on all entries to avoid any influence. |
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10/01/2008 03:10:19 PM · #93 |
| and let it be known that i'm not whinning about how my own is being scored. I'm about where I usually am but there was discussion above about this and it torked me off a bit....can you tell! |
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10/01/2008 03:10:57 PM · #94 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
but I've also seen votes of 1 or 2 on very obviously above average studio portrait entries. Not cool. |
For some of us I think that just comes with the territory. |
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10/01/2008 03:18:10 PM · #95 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Does site council have access to the running histogram of scores for entries during challenges? Does SC vote during challenges? Just curious... |
Well, technically "yes" to both questions, although I was referring to low votes my own entry. ;-P
We don't see scores, but could look up the histogram on a particular entry if needed (generally issues of buddy voting or ghost accounts). We're very conscious of fair voting, and I know at least some SC members won't even look at a validation request until they've voted on all entries to avoid any influence. |
That's what I thought. Fine be me!
To All: I presumed a studio meant a studio...simple as that. My "studio" shot is getting thumped, probably for other reasons that will smack in the face by the end of the week. |
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10/01/2008 03:24:08 PM · #96 |
Originally posted by eyewave:
I, for one, deduct points for accidental crops. |
How would you be able to tell if someone accidentally cropped more than they wanted to? You can read minds??? |
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10/01/2008 03:28:06 PM · #97 |
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by eyewave:
I, for one, deduct points for accidental crops. |
How would you be able to tell if someone accidentally cropped more than they wanted to? You can read minds??? |
No clairvoyance necessary. If it's a soybean farm with nothing but broccoli in the fields, that's probably an accidental crop. Deduct two points. |
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10/01/2008 03:30:18 PM · #98 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by yanko:
Originally posted by eyewave:
I, for one, deduct points for accidental crops. |
How would you be able to tell if someone accidentally cropped more than they wanted to? You can read minds??? |
No clairvoyance necessary. If it's a soybean farm with nothing but broccoli in the fields, that's probably an accidental crop. Deduct two points. |
lol |
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10/01/2008 03:33:39 PM · #99 |
Originally posted by Pikkel:
"A photographic studio is both a workspace and a corporate body. As a workspace it provides space to take, develop, print and duplicate photographs"
still not seeing it being defined as having to be enclosed.......
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I am not sure if you have ever done any film developing and printing...but it would be impossible to do so outdoors. The temperture control, closing off all light, using controlled light to expose the print. Even in 1819 when the term studio came about (and was refferring to painting) it was not possible to develop and print film or photographs outdoors. It was definately done in a space that had walls and a ceiling to enable the required blocking of and controlled allowance of light.
You can search all you want and find exceptions to pretty much anything in life. If you then apply those exceptions to every situation you can pretty much justify anything. (as violinist has already stated)
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10/01/2008 03:51:57 PM · #100 |
i have been asked too show my orginal
this time i wont
because this is harresment
and this has to stop
its not because i cheat because i dont
NO EXCEPTION
Message edited by author 2008-10-01 15:53:42. |
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